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The movie kinda already had an issue with Vanko being too sympathetic for what they wanted to do with him (blow him up) so I don't think they can make changes like that without radically restructuring the movie. Also Tony is supposed to ultimately relate to his dad so
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Fangz posted:The movie kinda already had an issue with Vanko being too sympathetic for what they wanted to do with him (blow him up) so I don't think they can make changes like that without radically restructuring the movie. Also Tony is supposed to ultimately relate to his dad so I watched it two nights ago and I didn't really sympathize all that much with Vanko, mainly because the movie doesn't really do much with the theft angle. It gets downplayed to hell. poo poo, Tony giving Vanko advice is the reason for his power boost in the final fight. It's not even like Ghost's dad in Ant-Man and the Wasp where it's left ambiguous how much of the issue is Hank being an rear end in a top hat versus the guy actually having stolen from Pym, because in IM2 the information regarding Vanko's father's deportation comes from a less biased source, Nick Fury.
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But he had a cool bird and the movie kinda juxtaposes his lovely Russian apartment with Tony's fancy rich one.
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Fangz posted:But he had a cool bird and the movie kinda juxtaposes his lovely Russian apartment with Tony's fancy rich one. this is true
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Fangz posted:But he had a cool bird and the movie kinda juxtaposes his lovely Russian apartment with Tony's fancy rich one. That wasn't his bird.
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Happy Hippo posted:
It also made Alan Moore blow up and basically quit writing, so it killed more than one career.
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A career ending comic book movie
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Nipponophile posted:It also made Alan Moore blow up and basically quit writing, so it killed more than one career. What? It didn't even get him to quit writing League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. Cinema Purgatoria was ongoing as of last year, Providence wrapped up in 2017, The Tempest in 2019, Jerusalem came out in 2016... he's been steadily productive if extremely selective.
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Sorry, I should have been more specific. I meant "quit writing anything worth reading". Sorry again for the confusion.
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He was already writing League of Extraordinary Gentlemen Vol 2
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I guess YMMV and I definitely think some of the worst writing of his career has been in the past 15 years, I think Tom Strong and Promethea both ended on high notes. I also like the Nemo Trilogy and The Tempest but I don't know if they're good per se. I also like 1910 because I like Brecht stuff.
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Nipponophile posted:Sorry, I should have been more specific. I meant "quit writing anything worth reading". I accept your apology as you seem to still be confused.
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I remember liking LoXG as a child and refuse to ever revisit it and have that stolen from me. You all will not kill this for me.
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I just went and checked IMDB for what Connery did post LXG. (Which was called that to make people think it was related to the X-Men. ) He did the voice for James Bond in a From Russia With Love PS2 game. Whacky.
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Nipponophile posted:It also made Alan Moore blow up and basically quit writing, so it killed more than one career. It is the only movie based on his work that I know of where he's actually credited.
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Alhazred posted:It is the only movie based on his work that I know of where he's actually credited. It was the first of them, and him asking for credit to be removed on future films was a direct result of it, I believe.
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Vince MechMahon posted:It was the first of them, and him asking for credit to be removed on future films was a direct result of it, I believe. Yeah, someone sued DC for plagiarism and Alan Moore had to testify that he had come up with the story himself. Can't blame him for not wanting a credit after that.
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Lmao Ray Fisher just confirmed that every single Cyborg scene in Josstice League was reshot, except for his 30 sec scene at the GCPD rooftop What a hot mess https://twitter.com/Snyderspecific/status/1323323142689988611?s=19
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Alhazred posted:Yeah, someone sued DC for plagiarism and Alan Moore had to testify that he had come up with the story himself. Can't blame him for not wanting a credit after that. There was also the situation with V for Vendetta where Joel Silver (one of the producers) gave an interview saying that Moore had seen footage from the movie and approved when no he hadn't and no he didn't.
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Vince MechMahon posted:It was the first of them, and him asking for credit to be removed on future films was a direct result of it, I believe. From Hell was the first.
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EmptyVessel posted:From Hell was the first. Was he credited on that one?
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Vince MechMahon posted:Was he credited on that one? Yes.
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i've been going through the marvel chronological order listing on D+ and I'm towards the end now. They have Ant-Man & The Wasp BEFORE Infinity War!
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Soonmot posted:i've been going through the marvel chronological order listing on D+ and I'm towards the end now. They have Ant-Man & The Wasp BEFORE Infinity War! I mean, most of that movie does take place before IW, so I get it. e: that said, I cannot believe it took Disney so long to actually sort the MCU by release order (and also give a chronological order option) instead of totally randomly. It's nuts.
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Arist posted:I mean, most of that movie does take place before IW, so I get it. Inifinity War lasts longer than a day, doesn't it?
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Soonmot posted:Inifinity War lasts longer than a day, doesn't it? The postcredits scene of Ant-Man and the Wasp presumably takes place a few days after the rest of the movie. Scott has like what, three days of house arrest left at the start? And he gets released at the end of the movie.
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Soonmot posted:Inifinity War lasts longer than a day, doesn't it? I mean, probably not that much longer. Assuming the movie is moving linearly and the cuts between the various subplots are supposed to be happening concurrently, starting from the point that Banner gets teleported into the Sanctum Sanctorum, the following events happen either simultaneously or drat close to it:
Then after that, in sequence:
There are some breaks in there where maybe you can be generous and assume that there was a larger gap in time, like maybe you can assume that there's a more significant gap between the Black Order's initial invasion of Earth and the Guardians finding Thor adrift in space, or the Guardians/Team Stark spend a little more preptime than we see on Titan, or maybe that the Avengers spend a little more time in Wakanda while Shuri works on Vision, but still, everything in the movie happens fast. Maybe it doesn't happen in one day, but I'd say if that even if you're being ridiculously generous, the Infinity War takes 3 days tops from start to snap TwoPair fucked around with this message at 07:56 on Nov 10, 2020 |
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drat, I guess AM&W is chronologically first then!
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Arist posted:I mean, most of that movie does take place before IW, so I get it. For a while searching for "Mandalorian" on D+ would not bring up the Mandalorian's making-of show.
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Well, I did it. Due to the unspeakable popular demand that totally exists, I made a video essay about everyone's favorite movie, Man of Steel. Specifically about Pa Kent, my favorite character! I mean there's a bunch of stuff dissecting superhero mentor tropes but we all know what the people really want. Yes, it's 45 minutes. Yes, it's all downhill from there. I would like to sincerely thank everyone here, because this is absolutely all your fault. Special shout-out to A loving Pandemic, which gave me the free time to do anything like this. <3 Hopefully there will be more, everyone said! In fact, next one will probably be about Doctor Strange.
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I'm watching New Mutants, and like its not the best Fox X-men movie but its pretty good so far. It helps Anna-Taylor Joy is a pretty much perfect Illyana. Everyone else pretty much feels on point, with Maisie Williams Raine is actually better than the comic version. It probably didn't help that her comic counterpart was always crying and beating up on herself. In the film she's got a bit more self confidence. I guess because no one saw it there hasn't been much spoiler discussion around it so I wasn't sure what to expect. But I'm not sure about Limbo just being created by Illyana rather than an actual place that she was taken to as a child as a change, and her just being a teleporter without the stepping disks is a minor nitpick. Raine and Danny being sweet on each other is adorable. I'd not say it was a horror movie, but its certainly more horrific than any other mainstream comic movie since the Blade movies. Way Reyes a existing character? Wasn't there a super smart mutant who worked with Dr Nemesis by that name? I really enjoy Iron Man 2, but the criticisms of it are totally accurate. loving Elon Musk, though that's before he was revealed to be a giant chud rear end in a top hat. I always like when Natasha gets introduced to Tony Pepper says "she's a very expensive lawsuit".
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Cecilia Reyes is an X-Men supporting character, yeah. Not a bad guy like in the movie though.
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Did any of the mister sinister stuff make it into the final cut of the movie?
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Vince MechMahon posted:Did any of the mister sinister stuff make it into the final cut of the movie? I was waiting for an end credits sequence where he is shown in shadows or something, but nope. Aphrodite posted:Cecilia Reyes is an X-Men supporting character, yeah. Not a bad guy like in the movie though. Okay, and I don't remember her having Sue Storm powers either.
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Haven't seen New Mutants but Cecilia does have force field powers. Though yes, it's usually overshadowed by her doctorness.
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STAC Goat posted:My vague memory is that she was a "I don't want to be a super hero just because I'm a mutant" so her powers basically sucked because she never used them unless it was an emergency. Yeah and like a lot of mutant powers around her era, they were more complicated than just 'make a force field.'
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BrianWilly posted:Well, I did it. Clicked through and liked for goon solidarity
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I recently re-watched Iron Man 2 and...what? No deleted scenes? I guess Favreau likes how the movie turned out. But man, I just kind of feel like this is a bit of a mess. Is it studio meddling with it? Is it a bunch of script re-writes getting mashed together? Between Whiplash's story and Tony dealing with being poisoned (and also clearly dealing with it with alcohol when getting trashed at the party), they just kind of handwave the whole thing and well he gets better or whatever. Also Ivan's final suit just seems to be an enhanced Iron Mongerer suit and just isn't as unique as his official outfit. Also Coulson drops a Supernany reference. Never noticed that before. Next up is Thor...
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I think Iron Man 2 benefits/suffers from being the big "world builder" entry. Its the movie where the MCU really started to expand into what its become and back then I think its incredibly cool to see Black Widow and Fury and War Machine and everything else, but 10 years later after so many MCU films and teamups that's really not that special and its a bit of a less impressive standalone piece. Thor I think has a bit of the same but I think its more of its own film.
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Soonmot posted:Clicked through and liked for goon solidarity 
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