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its bad because people are flipping them on Ebay for twice the price and rubes are actually buying them.
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hatty posted:its bad because people are flipping them on Ebay for twice the price and rubes are actually buying them. Something something supply demand. Something something natural market price.
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Nov 12, 2020 18:36
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Has anyone actually seen a bot? What I mean is you always see people complaining about them. But is there any proof that they actually exist? Beyond anecdotal evidence that something sold out real fast. Is there software you can buy? Are there hordes of developers writing their own apps that are able to place orders without using the web interface?
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Nov 12, 2020 18:36
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Nov 12, 2020 18:38
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There are discords where you can watch feeds of the scalpers bots as they buy consoles. I watched one a bit when preorders first went up, it made me come the the conclusion that I didn't stand a chance to score a preorder.
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Nov 12, 2020 18:38
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Waltzing Along posted:Has anyone actually seen a bot? What I mean is you always see people complaining about them. But is there any proof that they actually exist? Beyond anecdotal evidence that something sold out real fast. Is there software you can buy? Are there hordes of developers writing their own apps that are able to place orders without using the web interface? Anyone with an intermediate knowledge of web scripting could poke around a store and develop a bot that refreshes the page and checks you out faster than any human could. Some people homegrow, some sell it, some just give it out for free. 5 minutes with google can get you most of the way there, there are discord servers where you can collaborate and trade tips and such. Ended up snatching the Costco bundle after all. Their generous return policy made me feel ok about maybe overspending a bit. Hope Spiderman is worthwhile.
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Nov 12, 2020 18:39
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Waltzing Along posted:Has anyone actually seen a bot? What I mean is you always see people complaining about them. But is there any proof that they actually exist? Beyond anecdotal evidence that something sold out real fast. Is there software you can buy? Are there hordes of developers writing their own apps that are able to place orders without using the web interface? writing software to do this kinda stuff is trivial. you can use something like selenium to control a web browser and slam a website harder and faster than any human could
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Nov 12, 2020 18:39
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Megasabin posted:Target finally shipped it... to arrive next Wednesday. What a mess this launch is. Check the actual FedEx tracking after 24 hours. Mine from Target finally shipped late last night. Said to arrive Wednesday. Checked the FedEx tracking today (at FedEx.com - not Target's site) and it says it's arriving tomorrow.
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Nov 12, 2020 18:40
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Not a Children posted:Anyone with an intermediate knowledge of web scripting could poke around a store and develop a bot that refreshes the page and checks you out faster than any human could. Some people homegrow, some sell it, some just give it out for free. 5 minutes with google can get you most of the way there, there are discord servers where you can collaborate and trade tips and such. Is the costco bundle still available? Is it possible to buy a membership online and then buy the bundle?
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Nov 12, 2020 18:40
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il serpente cosmico posted:Getting a PS4 and a Switch were nowhere near as bad as this. Both of those had functioning pre-orders up for days before they sold out, rather than sites getting crashed and selling out within minutes whenever inventory goes up. PS4 maybe, but it was near impossible to get a Switch for like 6 months after launch. Plus there was no pandemic to inflate demand in 2013 or 2017.
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Nov 12, 2020 18:41
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Waltzing Along posted:Has anyone actually seen a bot? What I mean is you always see people complaining about them. But is there any proof that they actually exist? Beyond anecdotal evidence that something sold out real fast. Is there software you can buy? Are there hordes of developers writing their own apps that are able to place orders without using the web interface? In case this isn't a joke post, yeah, I've seen a lot of threads about scripts people were using and tweaking for specific sites. It was clear enough that the odds of getting it online legitimately were basically like winning a small lottery that I waited in line about 9 hours to do an in-person preorder back in September
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Nov 12, 2020 18:42
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Critical posted:Is the costco bundle still available? It is not available anymore
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Nov 12, 2020 18:42
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Megasabin posted:Target finally shipped it... to arrive next Wednesday. What a mess this launch is. BonoMan posted:Check the actual FedEx tracking after 24 hours. Mine from Target finally shipped late last night. Said to arrive Wednesday. Checked the FedEx tracking today (at FedEx.com - not Target's site) and it says it's arriving tomorrow. I finally got "we shipped it!" email, saying it will arrive the 18th, that includes a tracking number, which FedEx says does not exist. 
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Nov 12, 2020 18:42
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My one regret is not trying harder for Sony Direct
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Nov 12, 2020 18:43
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It's just bizarre to me that a single product going live crashed an international mega-corporation's entire website and there probably isn't a single person going "huh, maybe we need to change how we do things"
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Nov 12, 2020 18:43
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Lumpy posted:I finally got "we shipped it!" email, saying it will arrive the 18th, that includes a tracking number, which FedEx says does not exist. Takes a bit to get into their systems sometimes. Keep the faith!
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Nov 12, 2020 18:43
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PantsBandit posted:It's just bizarre to me that a single product going live crashed an international mega-corporation's entire website and there probably isn't a single person going "huh, maybe we need to change how we do things" the capitalism hasn't failed us thus far 
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Nov 12, 2020 18:44
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PantsBandit posted:It's just bizarre to me that a single product going live crashed an international mega-corporation's entire website and there probably isn't a single person going "huh, maybe we need to change how we do things" Why bother when it only happens once a decade or so? It’s not worth fixing when it works fine 99.9999% of the time otherwise.
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Nov 12, 2020 18:45
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PantsBandit posted:It's just bizarre to me that a single product going live crashed an international mega-corporation's entire website and there probably isn't a single person going "huh, maybe we need to change how we do things" It's basically "Just in Time" solutions. Everything corporate function now-a-days (from IT to manufacturing to general logistics) is handled with just-in-time "lets try to scale our infrastructure up and down in real time" poo poo. So You'll never get a website that is large enough to handle these kind of things because 99.99% of the time they don't need it. And if they do try to scale up in anticipation of something like this they: a.) normally can't do it in time and b.) still fail to properly assess server loads
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PantsBandit posted:It's just bizarre to me that a single product going live crashed an international mega-corporation's entire website and there probably isn't a single person going "huh, maybe we need to change how we do things" They got their money, why do they care if a scalper or an actual user buys it
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bradzilla posted:PS4 maybe, but it was near impossible to get a Switch for like 6 months after launch. Plus there was no pandemic to inflate demand in 2013 or 2017. The run up to launch wasn't as bad. I got a pre-order for the switch by only being mild on top of things, rather than hammer F5 the day before Sony said they would even go up.
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Nov 12, 2020 18:46
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Empress Brosephine posted:My Sony order says it's preparing for shipment yay Same here, is that good news or just "wait until we figure out the custerfuck that is this release"?
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Nov 12, 2020 18:46
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il serpente cosmico posted:The run up to launch wasn't as bad. I got a pre-order for the switch by only being mild on top of things, rather than hammer F5 the day before Sony said they would even go up. I tried to pre-order when they first went up like a month ago but Sony bungled that and didn't announce the time when pre-orders would go live like they said they would and they went up middle of Sonys presentation and were sold out before most people realized. It was real dumb.
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Nov 12, 2020 18:48
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il serpente cosmico posted:The run up to launch wasn't as bad. I got a pre-order for the switch by only being mild on top of things, rather than hammer F5 the day before Sony said they would even go up. That was super embarrassing.
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Nov 12, 2020 18:48
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I just don't get why they don't do it like apple does and just keep orders open forever. I know Walmart won't do that but I'm sure this wouldn't be a problem on the official Sony site.
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Nov 12, 2020 18:50
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Fuckin hell. The stupid Walmart sale went up while I was dealing with something at work. Urrgghhh. I’m just gonna try to pop over to the Walmart near work real fast.
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Nov 12, 2020 18:52
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FWIW I called my local Target today and was told that, while they can't sell any stock in-store today, they can tomorrow. Whether or not they'll get more stock that hasn't been claimed is obviously a crap-shoot, but it was a different message than the "zero in-store stock" that Sony has been saying.
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Nov 12, 2020 18:53
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Popete posted:I tried to pre-order when they first went up like a month ago but Sony bungled that and didn't announce the time when pre-orders would go live like they said they would and they went up middle of Sonys presentation and were sold out before most people realized. It was real dumb. That's how I missed the pre-order too. I was like "wait, they're live?" And if course when I looked it was sold out.
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Nov 12, 2020 18:53
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If I buy the ps4 version of spiderman do i Get a free ps5 upvradr And can continue my save on ps5
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Empress Brosephine posted:If I buy the ps4 version of spiderman do i No. You have to rebuy it.
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Nov 12, 2020 18:54
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Rexicon1 posted:Fuckin hell. The stupid Walmart sale went up while I was dealing with something at work. Urrgghhh. I’m just gonna try to pop over to the Walmart near work real fast. all sales are online-only today. your local store could possibly break that rule but I wouldn't count on it, and that's assuming they even have them in stock in the first place
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Empress Brosephine posted:If I buy the ps4 version of spiderman do i If you mean Spiderman, no to free upgrade, but yes to save transfers, Sony relented. This will come in an update around Thanksgiving. JazzFlight fucked around with this message at 18:57 on Nov 12, 2020 |
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Popfindr update: Target near me was showing 4 in stock, went in to the store and an associate confirmed for me that only online pre-orders are available for pick up today, but that if they have any in stock tomorrow morning they can be bought in store. edit: PantsBandit posted:FWIW I called my local Target today and was told that, while they can't sell any stock in-store today, they can tomorrow. Whether or not they'll get more stock that hasn't been claimed is obviously a crap-shoot, but it was a different message than the "zero in-store stock" that Sony has been saying.
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Nov 12, 2020 18:56
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JazzFlight posted:If you mean Miles Morales, you get the PS5 upgrade free, yes to save transfer. I'm pretty sure Sony's position has always been that it's a developer decision, not something they were blocking.
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Nov 12, 2020 18:57
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JazzFlight posted:If you mean Miles Morales, you get the PS5 upgrade free, yes to save transfer. Oh, in hadn't heard that. That's something at least. I'll probably wait until a sale to pick it up anyway, but that's good to know.
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hatty posted:its bad because people are flipping them on Ebay for twice the price and rubes are actually buying them. holy poo poo  
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Nov 12, 2020 18:58
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Next console launch Sony and Microsoft should just with with the retailers and make a god drat 1-800 number with a queuing system, to beat the internet bots. We have chat bots that have been demonstrated that could theoretically game this as well but that would be harder and the technology isn't quite there yet.
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Nov 12, 2020 18:58
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morallyobjected posted:I'm pretty sure Sony's position has always been that it's a developer decision, not something they were blocking.
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Nov 12, 2020 18:58
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I never played Days Gone on my old white PS4, so I decided to buy it for playing off my PS5. poo poo it's pretty nice, 4k HDR, 60fps or at least fast enough to convince me otherwise. Graphics look nice. This is how I want all my PS5 games to be. I'm sorta done with 30fps these days. I'm used to 60fps+ on PC and with the PS5 I'll probably pick performance over raytracing if that means I can get my 4k 60fps fix
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