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volts5000 posted:Who in the gently caress could've seen this coming! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Q-U2THOF00
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Some of these comments seem like pure Republican fantasy. Cecilia Muñoz has been on the Biden transition team since early September, she oversaw a 50% decrease in overall deportations as part of the Obama team, she's a longtime immigration advocate and civil rights activist, and she's openly advocated against deporting anyone who is not a recent arrival or convicted of a serious crime. She was picked because of her experience in building out a transparent immigration apparatus out of nothing, which is precisely what the Biden administration will have to do.
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Halloween Jack posted:My favourite fake meat is the chorizo from Trader Joe's. I'm not even a vegetarian. I need to try more of Trader Joe's stuff. Non-food contribution to the thread: https://twitter.com/guardiannews/status/1326974568360267783 That's a little surprising, maybe he lost some of his bloodlust over the years? Or at least a little more cautious about it.
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JT Jag posted:Can I just note how hilariously on-brand it is that the Democrats' pro-deportation ghoul is a Latina? #representation #girlboss This will always, always be the symptom of liberal tokenism. See also: black police chiefs in blue cities (Brown in Chicago, Outlaw in Philly, Best in Seattle, as examples) presiding over the absolute shithousing of BLM protesters. Somehow this poo poo is more palatable when the person delivering the tear gas, the deportations, the beatings, or the killings can claim to share an identity with the victims.
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JT Jag posted:Can I just note how hilariously on-brand it is that the Democrats' pro-deportation ghoul is a Latina? #representation #girlboss hire 👏 more 👏 latinx 👏 deporters
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Mat Cauthon posted:Seems like a bad choice on this one. Wow. Looks like we found the reason they never complained much about trumps immigration policies; they supported them.
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JT Jag posted:#girlboss Just a reminder for the rest of the thread, as DrNutt laid it out earlier and we reiterated, don't do this. There are plenty of ways to say how ghoulish someone is without doing that. Post accordingly.
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Kalit posted:I need to try more of Trader Joe's stuff. that was known for a while. he was more infavor of more info and maybe a drone strike or something because he was afraid if poo poo went bad with dudes on the ground. it would look/be very bad.
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Kalit posted:That's a little surprising, maybe he lost some of his bloodlust over the years? Or at least a little more cautious about it. Very likely the latter (without commenting either way on the former). That decision was risky as hell no matter how you cut it.
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I hope that the media chooses to just ignore everything Trump says after Jan 20th. I don't know.... he is just going to go on about this for YEARS, probably until the day he dies. I'm exhausted and it's been about a week of this poo poo.
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Gerund posted:oof, this is the kind of ghoul that makes people stop voting for your party forever. No wonder the talk for months was "we don't see Latinos as our path to victory". Now they're just trying to ensure they're never a path to victory again. That'll teach them not to vote for joe.
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Kaal posted:Some of these comments seem like pure Republican fantasy. Cecilia Muñoz has been on the Biden transition team since early September, she was oversaw a 50% decrease in overall deportations as part of the Obama team, she's a longtime immigration advocate and civil rights activist, she's openly advocated against deporting anyone who is not a recent arrival or convicted of a serious crime. She was picked because of her experience in building out a transparent immigration apparatus out of nothing, which is precisely what the Biden administration will have to do. "Serious crime." How's that defined again? Oh and lol I almost missed it, but why should "recent arrivals" be prioritized for removal? Is there an actual reason for this or is it because those are easier targets? Mentioning "recent arrivals" in the same breath as "serious criminals" is a fun trick I saw her do in an interview, but it seems pretty ghoulish to equate the two rhetorically. And has she made any public statements about three year olds defending themselves in immigration court? I'd love to hear her take on that if you have any links. Wicked Them Beats fucked around with this message at 21:42 on Nov 12, 2020 |
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Nov 12, 2020 21:40
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Handsome Ralph posted:Just a reminder for the rest of the thread, as DrNutt laid it out earlier and we reiterated, don't do this. Please update the rules listed somewhere with all of the "this almost sounds like a slur and is now banned" because otherwise it's just unreasonable to expect us to keep track. Is it sexist to keep using "hire more women prison guards" i missed this whole debate
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:It’s all one giant grift It’s kind of touching in a very weird and awkward way
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Wicked Them Beats posted:"Serious crime." How's that defined again? I'm very excited to learn if rebuilding the immigration apparatus means we get branded Joe Biden Baby Jails or if they can find a way to admit they hosed up without saying it like that.
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https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1326983101881470981 looks like trumps is pulling an airlines industry now.
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Handsome Ralph posted:Just a reminder for the rest of the thread, as DrNutt laid it out earlier and we reiterated, don't do this. The Oldest Man posted:This will always, always be the symptom of liberal tokenism. See also: black police chiefs in blue cities (Brown in Chicago, Outlaw in Philly, Best in Seattle, as examples) presiding over the absolute shithousing of BLM protesters. Somehow this poo poo is more palatable when the person delivering the tear gas, the deportations, the beatings, or the killings can claim to share an identity with the victims. DeeplyConcerned posted:It’s kind of touching in a very weird and awkward way
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Gerund posted:I'm very excited to learn if rebuilding the immigration apparatus means we get branded Joe Biden Baby Jails or if they can find a way to admit they hosed up without saying it like that. Those are just the current baby jails though
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Dapper_Swindler posted:that was known for a while. he was more infavor of more info and maybe a drone strike or something because he was afraid if poo poo went bad with dudes on the ground. it would look/be very bad. Oh whoops, I didn't realize that it was already known, thanks for letting me know.
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The Artificial Kid posted:Sorry I know this was many pages ago, but I am working my way through the thread to catch up. Not really, the only thing he cared about was whether his vote total was bigger than Hillary's or not. Whether that total was a plurality or majority is immaterial as long as it was bigger.
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Kalit posted:Oh whoops, I didn't realize that it was already known, thanks for letting me know. it fine. its been known for years and was one of trumps less used flails against biden.
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Halloween Jack posted:My favourite fake meat is the chorizo from Trader Joe's. I'm not even a vegetarian.
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The Oldest Man posted:Yeah Jenny Durkan (Seattle mayor) went in hard on the "good protestor/bad protestor" narrative and basically tried to frame any direct action or refusals to disperse as white male privilege. This is further complicated by things like white supremacists burning down an autozone that it would have been completely reasonable for black protestors to burn down. Which is the goal of such ops
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Kalit posted:I need to try more of Trader Joe's stuff. The OBL raid went as good as it possibly could, but it was a huge risk. Essentially, Obama signed off on American Spec Ops raiding into what is ostensibly an American military ally without their knowledge or approval. The fact that the only real failure of it all was a crashed helicopter they had to leave behind was real lucky on their part. Any and all dust up with the Pakistani military would be a colossal international scandal.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1326983101881470981 We need to bailout the trump admin.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:it fine. its been known for years and was one of trumps less used flails against biden. As noted, Biden's been around since Desert One days. He has seen it go wrong.
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Harold Fjord posted:Please update the rules listed somewhere with all of the "this almost sounds like a slur and is now banned" because otherwise it's just unreasonable to expect us to keep track. We had a multi-page derail about it yesterday and I'm a firm believer in the basic philosophy of "If I am using someone's gender, orientation, or race as part of my dunk, I should probably not post it", but sure, we can find a way to codify it somewhere. I personally think the hire more women prison guards meme is overplayed but that's not what we asked people to refrain from posting and there is some truth to it, so it's fine.
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sexpig by night posted:https://twitter.com/JarJarFan69/status/1326961278259138560 The tweet is deleted now
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Pick posted:As noted, Biden's been around since Desert One days. He has seen it go wrong. yeah, Operation Eagle Claw was a loving shitshow as was Black Hawk Down/etc. https://twitter.com/Laurie_Garrett/status/1326989666055299074 also its not over.
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Gerund posted:People need to realize that just because you get dirtsheet reports from behind the kayfabe doesn't mean you aren't a mark for the worked-shoot. What am I reading? Did I just have a stroke?
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Handsome Ralph posted:We had a multi-page derail about it yesterday and I'm a firm believer in the basic philosophy of "If I am using someone's gender, orientation, or race as part of my dunk, I should probably not post it", but sure, we can find a way to codify it somewhere. It's the same substance, it's a critique of using the identity of the person to mask the inherent badness of their position. IE, bosses are bad, and "girlboss" is not empowering when said boss is doing evil, hosed up poo poo. I can see how it is inapplicable to the current lady being discussed, as no one was saying "she's a woman so she'll be great on immigration." Regardless, punishments that can theoretically lead to ramp for breaking just recently made up rules that aren't actually listed anywhere you'd go looking for rules is bad. Harold Fjord fucked around with this message at 21:56 on Nov 12, 2020 |
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The Oldest Man posted:Those are just the current baby jails though The OP said there was a need to rebuild the immigration apparatus, and I simply must know if that means doing Obama+ or admitting that what was done under Obama as "experience" and "qualifications" needs to be repudiated.
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Harold Fjord posted:It's the same substance, it's a critique of using the identity of the person to mask the inherent badness of their position. IE, bosses are bad, and "girlboss" is not empowering when said boss is doing evil, hosed up poo poo. Sorry you feel that way but we're still standing by what we decided yesterday. Again, you can very easily critique how ghoulish that person is without needing to make her gender apart of your critique. If you're unable to do that 
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DeeplyConcerned posted:What am I reading? Did I just have a stroke? It's a lot of wrestling jargon kayfabe - an act put on for the show; pretending to have grudges or that the fights and such are real and serious dirtsheets - I think it's documentation of the stuff for keeping kayfabe mark - a person that buys into the act. Contrasted with "smarts" who are in on it work/shoot - the split between fake stuff as part of the act or grift and when it suddenly becomes real because the actors buy into their own act or put real grudges and vengeance into their fake actions, or that there's another layer to the grift: an obvious one that only catches marks, and a subtler one that catches smarts (who are the true marks for those in on the scheme) DarkHorse fucked around with this message at 22:00 on Nov 12, 2020 |
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DeeplyConcerned posted:What am I reading? Did I just have a stroke? People need to realise that just because you know it isn't real and the performers are content with you knowing that, it doesn't mean that you're privy to everything that's real and isn't real, and they might be planning to fool you with something anyway.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:yeah, Operation Eagle Claw was a loving shitshow as was Black Hawk Down/etc. the electors thing is some end of america poo poo
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Handsome Ralph posted:Just a reminder for the rest of the thread, as DrNutt laid it out earlier and we reiterated, don't do this. I'd like the word 'Jew' also probation worthy, then, because you can totally say that in a way that makes it sound hosed up, so that means it's also a slur. Same with 'queer', because the standard is now apparently 'if it's literally possible to be used with bigoted intent then it is'.
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