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A somber as gently caress chapter.
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This manga. Just... this manga. Denji's not back up to 100 percent yet, but the TV and Kobeni are right. He's always been revving up for another go sooner or later, no matter how bad the hits he's taken. Something that feels a little odd, though, is Kishibe suggesting that Makima's put silencing Kobeni high on her priority list. Not absurd, to be clear. And if we're just taking it on "What Kishibe reasonably assumes", there's no issue at all. The only odd bit there is how she let Kishibe get away after telling him everything, even though she had a clean shot. Add in that she's been the person most encouraging Denji to think, and... I don't know. It's maybe nothing. It just doesn't quite feel like nothing.
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Nov 6, 2020 13:54
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I don't remember if we've seen Kobeni & Denji (as Denji) hang out before... what a good pairing.
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Nov 6, 2020 14:48
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Denji spending time with Kobeni is good because she’s probably the closest thing to a normal person he’s interacted with since the manga started.
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Nov 6, 2020 15:02
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Nice use of light when Kobeni lectured him.
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Nov 6, 2020 15:10
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this is a pretty well rounded squad, all things considered I could see kobeni being the only one to survive
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Nov 6, 2020 17:09
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chiasaur11 posted:This manga. I don't like where this maybe leads, and I dread the possibility of it. This was a good chapter. I'm interested in seeing how he responds to the fame.
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Nov 6, 2020 18:15
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I'm kind of hoping for a dumb reveal that devils get weaker with the adoration of the public, but hybrids, being half human, actually get way stronger.
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Nov 6, 2020 18:21
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Kobeni don't get too close to Denji. I want you to live.
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Nov 6, 2020 18:31
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Hypocrisy posted:Kobeni don't get too close to Denji. I want you to live. If anything she's the one who will kill Denji in the end, if he dies.
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Nov 6, 2020 19:17
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"Kobeni, kill Denji" "...ah!" "Ill give you 5 bucks"
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Nov 6, 2020 19:59
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Arzaac posted:I'm kind of hoping for a dumb reveal that devils get weaker with the adoration of the public, but hybrids, being half human, actually get way stronger. Hes a manga protagonist, it is a given
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Nov 6, 2020 20:20
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Hamelekim posted:If anything she's the one who will kill Denji in the end, if he dies. I mean, he's died a lot so far. He just doesn't stay dead. That's what being a manga protagonist means.
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Nov 7, 2020 00:41
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Shounen protagonists and their comrades are supposed to face death with a smile. Kobeni actually fears death, and that aspect is part of what makes her so compelling. Reminds me of when the manga spent time with Power's trauma post-Darkness Devil. Not the usual way of things.
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Nov 7, 2020 01:46
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I love every chapter of this manga because I don't know whats happening. Last we left off Denji was throwing the peace sign to Kishibe who was offering to help him escape Makima. Now we're in a run down safe house where Denji & Kobeni are having a heart to heart and TV news is breaking the fourth wall and it looks like Denji is about to have some sort of realization. No idea what next chapter could even be!!
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Nov 7, 2020 01:53
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Jerkface posted:No idea what next chapter could even be!! We’re finally getting the Tomato Devil’s backstory.
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Nov 7, 2020 03:03
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I read this chapter while Guts' theme from Berserk was playing and it was very fitting.
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Nov 7, 2020 06:01
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So, do you think Denji still has a thing for Reze?
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Nov 7, 2020 09:21
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denji, become chainsaw man
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Nov 7, 2020 10:26
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Mraagvpeine posted:So, do you think Denji still has a thing for Reze? It's been months since she (as far as he knows) ditched him, so I don't think so. He's got a dozen bigger things to worry about right now anyway, and he's not the kind of guy who fits a ton of ideas in his head at once to begin with. I mean, if he sees Reze again, and he's not busy, it could maybe go somewhere, but right now his Makima related issues take precedence. (Also his feelings for Power, wherever those are going. If nothing else, he made a contract.)
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Nov 7, 2020 14:26
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Buzzsaw Roomba posted:Shounen protagonists and their comrades are supposed to face death with a smile. Kobeni actually fears death, and that aspect is part of what makes her so compelling. Reminds me of when the manga spent time with Power's trauma post-Darkness Devil. Not the usual way of things. haha imagine hating life while being afraid of dying it's a real hellish existence lol
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Nov 7, 2020 14:54
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Plutonis posted:haha imagine hating life while being afraid of dying it's a real hellish existence lol
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Nov 7, 2020 18:35
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chiasaur11 posted:It's been months since she (as far as he knows) ditched him, so I don't think so. i mean, depending on how clearly he remembers his stint as full-power chainsaw man, he might be able to put 2 and 2 together and realize what actually happened to reze.
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Nov 7, 2020 20:17
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Work seasonal retail Denji it could be so much worse! I think Kishibe has been anti Makima a long rear end time from what we’ve seen so expecting tricks from him. If he’s under her control it would feel lame now o feel. Great colour spread 
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Nov 8, 2020 18:21
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Finished fire punch also, Fujimoto loves the old “this ain’t the hero of a manga in real life??!” Bits lol as well as movies. Fire punch had cool ideas that rarely landed imo vs chainsaw man which is all hits
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Nov 8, 2020 18:23
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EmmyOk posted:Work seasonal retail Denji it could be so much worse! This spread immediately reminded me of Dorohedoro.
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Nov 8, 2020 22:53
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Great chapter, drat.
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Nov 10, 2020 18:21
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Flair posted:I do enjoy the implications that have been revealed so far, both in terms of themes and plot. From our initial viewpoint, Denji's actions and whims have simply been based on single-mindedness and short-term goals, but with what has been revealed thus far, the question becomes what actions has been his and what actions may have been affected by Makima's control. Then again, even if Makima had not influenced Denji's action in the past, would he have made the same choices? Do you have free will if you just follow what other people say? Does free will even matter if you adhere to your basic desires? I think the only time Denji has ever rejected a request from Makima is when he opted to stay with Aki and Power rather than spend vacation with her, and that may have been his only real choice he made since he became chainsawman. Ah looks like the themes are getting less and less subtle. edit: Nonetheless, the theme it talks about is nuanced for a Jump manga. The lack of freedom is the norm; to be controlled and manipulated is normal. True freedom is an aberration. All hail the hivemind! All praise the algorithms! Flair fucked around with this message at 22:56 on Nov 10, 2020 |
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Nov 10, 2020 22:48
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Yeah, definitely getting explicit about the themes. Some kinda interesting speculation I saw on Japanese twitter talked about what might be Makima's weakness, based on recent events. When Angel and Power managed to resist her, it was powered by love. (I'll leave the exact manner of the love to other discussion.) When Chainsaw Man was weakened, it was the result of an outpouring of love from the public. Denji loved Makima when he first met her. And even if it's immature affection, it was sincere. (This contrasts with the rest of Public Safety, who either think of her as a necessary evil at best, or she put the whammy on them.) Could be that the same things that let Makima hurt Denji so bad might be how he wins. Again, if we're mirroring FLCL, Naota loved Haruko even after everything, and Denji helped Reze out because he liked her despite the many, many murders. (Which was a real and important choice he made, even if the consequences wound up not mattering much. Give yourself a little credit, Denji!) Dunno if that's how things will go, but it did kind of track with some of my thoughts on the whole setup right now. chiasaur11 fucked around with this message at 12:34 on Nov 12, 2020 |
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Nov 12, 2020 11:40
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https://imgur.com/a/DD30nWn Speed Translatin'
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Nov 13, 2020 10:56
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Fat_Cow posted:https://imgur.com/a/DD30nWn Again I go to my last post, how could you ever expect this chapter based on the preceding one???????????????????????????? Its impossible. I love it, and I wonder what Denji thought about on how to kill Makima or what he is even going to do here.
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Nov 13, 2020 11:02
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Me, before reading the chapter: I wonder how they'll set up Denji vs Makima? The chapter: Set up? What is set up? ALL IN BAYBEE
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Nov 13, 2020 11:10
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Jerkface posted:Again I go to my last post, how could you ever expect this chapter based on the preceding one???????????????????????????? Its impossible. I love it, and I wonder what Denji thought about on how to kill Makima or what he is even going to do here. I dunno what to tell you, man. It's pretty standard screenwriting. We just finished Hero goes on killing spree and date in pursuit of burgers, followed it up with the traditional revival and self-sacrifice of the most popular character, and went through the classic secret hideaway bonding session over the definition of normality. Where else would it go but Final battle between hero and love interest over the value of bad movies? I mean, not criticizing Fujimoto for execution, but I think we all should have seen it coming a mile away. I mean, I just described half of all Frank Capra movies up there. Being surprised by this result is like being surprised that children who see the star that drives them insane go insane.
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Nov 13, 2020 11:25
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I like this. It fits way better then having a long drawn out training arc or something. It also furthers Denji's development. Also, Makima was shocked. Is it me, or did Kishibe's scar swap sides of his face a few times. I feel like something was very off about his perspective.
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Nov 13, 2020 11:34
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Darth TNT posted:I like this. It fits way better then having a long drawn out training arc or something. It also furthers Denji's development. Yep. Scar switches sides a few times there. Figure it'll be fixed in the volume release. Something that was probably intentional, on the other hand? Check out Denji's arms in the last segment. He may not be in Poochita's crazy four armed super mode, but whatever he's got going on, it's brand new.
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Nov 13, 2020 11:54
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I love that this is the standard argument versus a forced utopia - a flawless world has no room from flaws, which are ultimately the most human thing of all - but just done in one sentence, using the medium we know both Denji and Makima care about. It really makes it work in such a small amount of time.
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Nov 13, 2020 12:20
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I'm half expecting this to end with Kobeni running over all of Makima's crew with her car, except her car is now an X-wing for some reason.
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Nov 13, 2020 13:10
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Blockhouse posted:I love that this is the standard argument versus a forced utopia - a flawless world has no room from flaws, which are ultimately the most human thing of all - but just done in one sentence, using the medium we know both Denji and Makima care about. It really makes it work in such a small amount of time. "Makes it work in such a small amount of time" is almost a Chainsaw Man box quote. I mean, it's to be expected of a blend of FLCL and Abara, but it's still worth noting how much of Chainsaw Man is just as long as it needs to be to do its job right.
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Nov 13, 2020 13:16
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chiasaur11 posted:Yep. Scar switches sides a few times there. Figure it'll be fixed in the volume release. Yeah I noticed that as well, but I wasn't sure if it was actually something or actually the first time we had a good look at his arms.
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chiasaur11 posted:"Makes it work in such a small amount of time" is almost a Chainsaw Man box quote. I’m sad that we are on the falling action segment of the story. This has been the most entertaining manga I’ve read in a while, and I’ll be sad to see it go. There’s something to be said for not dragging out the story, though, and finishing it in whatever insane manner Fujimoto has cooked up.
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