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I think Future State sounds mostly fine, and it's interesting which DC books haven't been in a hot minute.
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Skwirl posted:I didn't even think of that. I think in reality they just kinda erased bro Superman from continuity, has there been any references since then to stuff that would have been bro Superman only thing that got folded into continuity? Xa-Du the Phantom King turned up in Bendis's Superman recently didn't he? While he's been around since the Silver Age or whatever he had the exact same design from Morrison's New 52 Action Comics run and Paktion comics as well as being called the Phantom King is a New 52 thing. Also Superman's parents dying in a car crash in Doomsday Clock is from Morrison's run although that did get explicitly undone at the end too.
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Nov 16, 2020 09:36
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Mandibular Fiasco posted:I am a hardcover DC Comics fan and I just don't know why I should care about this entire fiasco. Reminds me too much of Convergence, another two month reset that told no interesting stories and that everyone has forgotten about. Convergence might have been a total waste of time unless you were an Earth 2 reader but at least we got like 4 good two part minis out of 40. The rest might have mostly been unreadable trash but we got a great Doc Shaner Shazam book. If you don't want to read an Atom story where everyone has lost their powers except him, but his powers have changed to just making one hand really big, you are not a true DC fan. Even typing this out it is hard to believe this was a story published in the last decade. Just jaw dropping.
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Nov 16, 2020 13:00
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Lord_Hambrose posted:If you don't want to read an Atom story where everyone has lost their powers except him, but his powers have changed to just making one hand really big, you are not a true DC fan. Even typing this out it is hard to believe this was a story published in the last decade. Just jaw dropping. Sorry, what?
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Nov 16, 2020 13:14
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Cassa posted:Sorry, what? Dan Didio had vision, OK!
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Nov 16, 2020 14:34
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Cassa posted:Sorry, what?       
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Nov 16, 2020 15:23
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Don't bother with jail or arkham or interdimensional prisons. Just shrink the hands of every supervillain as punishment. I guarantee it'll be more effective than the current system.
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Nov 16, 2020 15:44
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drat if this timeless tale still doesn't hold up.
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Nov 16, 2020 16:48
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we must unmake the school-to-handshrink pipeline
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Nov 16, 2020 16:54
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Like I said there are some good things in Future State (Tamaki writing a Batman story for instance) but if you just think everything is the worst thing ever then I can see why you would be meh about the project.
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Nov 16, 2020 17:12
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Convergence certainly doesn't hold up too well, but it was still something of an enticing novelty at the time when DC still thought the Nu52 was the c̴̰͌̉͝ò̵̞o̷̩͉̞̔͆l̴̯̀̚è̴̪s̷̠̊t̴̫͙̒ ̴̧̊̔t̴̹͒͜h̵̨̙̠̏̇͊i̴̝̯̝͘n̵̦̕g̸̹͗͌ ̴͓͍̄e̷̦̠͗̀̓v̵̅͠ͅë̸͍̩̮́͝r̷̝̕ͅ and we legit didn't know if we would ever get to see characters like Stephanie Brown, Ryan Choi, or Connor Hawke again.
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Nov 16, 2020 17:20
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TwoPair posted:It told one good story which was pre-Flashpoint Superman and Lois Lane having their son and then after arriving in the N52 raising him while staying largely out of world events with Superman going out in a covert black suit to help certain events that he recognizes from his past play out differently in this essentially new world, like saving Hank Henshaw so he never becomes Cyborg Superman. Or at least, I thought it was neat. I remember that now that you mention it. I liked it too! I've always liked the Lois-Clark family storylines. I had forgotten they had smushed it all together again. Who can keep track anymore. No wonder new fans for comics are so few and far between.
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Nov 16, 2020 18:10
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Siegkrow posted:I'm still wondering, if they fused the stories of Dad-Superman and Bro-Superman (You know as well as I do who is who in this scenario), does that mean that Superman had a very public affair with Wonder Woman?? I think they're approaching it from a very hypertime, Morrison-y way of everything happened except the stuff that can't have happened. So Superman never dated Wonder Woman but he also definitely took place in that Darkseid War event that still seems to be in continuity.
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Nov 16, 2020 18:27
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Lois and Clark were on a break.
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Nov 16, 2020 18:50
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BrianWilly posted:Convergence certainly doesn't hold up too well, but it was still something of an enticing novelty at the time when DC still thought the Nu52 was the c̴̰͌̉͝ò̵̞o̷̩͉̞̔͆l̴̯̀̚è̴̪s̷̠̊t̴̫͙̒ ̴̧̊̔t̴̹͒͜h̵̨̙̠̏̇͊i̴̝̯̝͘n̵̦̕g̸̹͗͌ ̴͓͍̄e̷̦̠͗̀̓v̵̅͠ͅë̸͍̩̮́͝r̷̝̕ͅ and we legit didn't know if we would ever get to see characters like Stephanie Brown, Ryan Choi, or Connor Hawke again. Yeah, I mean I would've liked a Flash future state comic about, like, ANY of the Flash Kids. It'd be cool to see a grown up Bart or Iris in a Flash uniform like we see Kal'dur with Andy in the Aquaman one.
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Nov 17, 2020 01:37
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70s Archie Goodwin writes entertaining batman Stories. His manhunter is great too
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Nov 17, 2020 05:23
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He got hand powers because his name is Ray PALMER, that's just how comic book universes work!
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Nov 17, 2020 05:32
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Snackmar posted:He got hand powers because his name is Ray PALMER, that's just how comic book universes work! It's a good thing Mephisto is a Marvel villain.
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Nov 17, 2020 12:05
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In case anyone was wondering if the Future State stuff was going to have any impact on the regular books Joelle Jones is writing/drawing a Wonder Girl ongoing starring the present version of Future State's Wonder Woman. https://deadline.com/2020/11/wonder-girl-tv-series-latina-lead-yara-flor-dailyn-rodriguez-greg-berlanti-productions-the-cw-1234616503/ She's also getting a show too so DC's going full media push on this character.
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Nov 17, 2020 12:41
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Blockhouse posted:I think Future State sounds mostly fine, and it's interesting which DC books haven't been in a hot minute. I'm loving all the designs and a whole bunch of writers and artists seem to be getting a chance to do something different with the characters? It sounds like it could be a fun 2099-type of mini universe.
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Nov 17, 2020 13:41
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Are there any other costumes that are the one piece bathing suit with full arms but no legs? It looks really weird and bad to me.
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Nov 17, 2020 15:40
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Carol Danvers had a costume like that for a bit:
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Nov 17, 2020 17:34
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Gwenpool
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Nov 17, 2020 17:39
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Gen13's Caitlin Fairchild is another bodysuit-but-bare-legs costume:
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Nov 17, 2020 17:41
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I always thought it looked weird on Gwen, too. No sir, I don't like it.
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Nov 17, 2020 17:42
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Vince MechMahon posted:Are there any other costumes that are the one piece bathing suit with full arms but no legs? It looks really weird and bad to me. Power Girl is the most prominent example, isn’t she?
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Nov 17, 2020 23:00
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Wasn't Super Girl's first New 52 costume kinda like that, with a weird crotch shield thing? Edit: Yeah, except I forgot they also added weird lines to it (same with Superman) to make it look like armor, which makes the lack of pants even dumber 
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Nov 17, 2020 23:11
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Either put on some pants or cut off your sleeves, that's what I say.
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Nov 18, 2020 00:01
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I think those are white pants...
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Nov 18, 2020 01:09
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Vince MechMahon posted:Are there any other costumes that are the one piece bathing suit with full arms but no legs? It looks really weird and bad to me. They're leotards. There's nothing inherently wrong with them. They only get gross when comics artists draw them as thongs.
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Codependent Poster posted:They're leotards. There's nothing inherently wrong with them. They only get gross when comics artists draw them as thongs. I don't mind the leotard part. It's the sleeves with uncovered legs that bothers me. It's like wearing a long sleeved shirt with shorts.
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Nov 18, 2020 02:48
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Vince MechMahon posted:I don't mind the leotard part. It's the sleeves with uncovered legs that bothers me. It's like wearing a long sleeved shirt with shorts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5KmB8Laemg&ab_channel=CakeVEVO
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I have seen many many kinds of leotards that have full or half sleeves. You see them very often on ballet dancers or ice skaters or gymnasts. I guess if you don't watch a lot of ballet or ice skating it might look weird-- I guess I live in a bubble because this attitude is baffling to me.
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TwoPair posted:I think they're approaching it from a very hypertime, Morrison-y way of everything happened except the stuff that can't have happened. So Superman never dated Wonder Woman but he also definitely took place in that Darkseid War event that still seems to be in continuity. That's the best way, I think. Worrying about what's canon or not is the worst way to decide if you're going to enjoy an arc or not.
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How Wonderful! posted:I have seen many many kinds of leotards that have full or half sleeves. You see them very often on ballet dancers or ice skaters or gymnasts. I guess if you don't watch a lot of ballet or ice skating it might look weird-- I guess I live in a bubble because this attitude is baffling to me. It looks fine in ballet and ice skating. I don't know what it is that bothers me about it in comics.
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Nov 18, 2020 05:52
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If we are going to go in on superhero costume stuff that is annoying mine is shoulder pads. Why do heroes need shoulder pads?
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Nov 18, 2020 06:33
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to protect their shoulders, madkal
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Nov 18, 2020 06:39
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Madkal posted:If we are going to go in on superhero costume stuff that is annoying mine is shoulder pads. Why do heroes need shoulder pads? If it was good enough for women's suits in the 80s it's good enough for Wonder Woman in 2020.
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Madkal posted:If we are going to go in on superhero costume stuff that is annoying mine is shoulder pads. Why do heroes need shoulder pads? They look cool.
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Mandibular Fiasco posted:I am a hardcover DC Comics fan and I just don't know why I should care about this entire fiasco. Reminds me too much of Convergence, another two month reset that told no interesting stories and that everyone has forgotten about. does anyone else remember Telos, the Forerunner of 2015
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