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So what I'm getting from you guys is that I should definitely install Superfrog HD and try to beat it.  Turbinosamente posted:I still find Rare's rise and fall as a hot poo poo developer kinda... funny? I guess? 12 year old me wouldn't believe that people would ever stop playing the pinnacle of shooters Goldeneye, or collectively realize collectathons suck in the future. Or that Perfect Dark got a meh sequel. Nowadays the only Rareware game I'd probably return to would be Starfox Adventures because of raw nostalgia. I think collectathons can be fun, but it's a fine balancing act between "There's so much to do!" and "Ugh... how many of these things do I have to get?" Mario Odyssey is probably the platonic ideal of the collectathon where there's shittons of things to collect but there isn't a lot of it that feels tedious, and almost none of it is required. At some point I am definitely doing another 100% run of the game because it was fun to do the whole way through. The 90's and early 2000's versions of collectathons were 50% padding and you could feel it. Turbinosamente posted:Here's a semi non sequitur for you: where does Spongebob: Battle for Bikini Bottom rank on everyone's list of collectathon platformers? That got popular enough in retrospect to get a modern rerelease. I enjoyed the first five minutes once so it hasn't had a chance to wear thin with me yet. I'm kind of surprised it's gotten momentum in recent years, but I'm not going to begrudge 2000's kids from having nostalgia for a mid-range game. That's what this thread is all about, after all.
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Casey Finnigan posted:I rented Battle for Bikini Bottom as a kid and thought it was boring and uninteresting. I don't remember knowing anyone who thought it was good or special back in the day. I blame Metaljesusrocks for it's revival. I just took a gander at the VGPC for PS2 CiB and it goes up and up and up, maxing out at $30, until it craters around early 2019. Presumably that's when the rerelease came out. poo poo, should have sold my copy back then, oh well.
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takes hot enough to make coffee The best collectathon is Spyro anyway
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Star Man posted:Games like Zelda and Metroid are the genesis of the modern collectathon games. I feel the difference is that most of the items you collect serve a purpose outside of unlocking area x after you collect y of z
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Kim Justice posted:They should have re-released Qwak instead.  or so. He's been making noises on the socials about digging it back up for the Switch, as well...
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ok good, people are only dunking on dkc1 for its gameplay the soundtrack whips
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Banjo Kazooie is the best collectathon, Banjo Tooie is the worst, everything else is either fine or mediocre
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Pretty good posted:Banjo Kazooie is the best collectathon 
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Open-world games in the Ubisoft mold are the modern collectathon game.
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i refuse to believe people itt didnt know about the mine cart skip. everyone in my school knew about it, and half of them had mega drives 
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Vikar Jerome posted:i refuse to believe people itt didnt know about the mine cart skip. everyone in my school knew about it, and half of them had mega drives The mine cart levels were how you separated the casuals from the pros at my school. 
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Vikar Jerome posted:i refuse to believe people itt didnt know about the mine cart skip. everyone in my school knew about it, and half of them had mega drives Just looked it up, had no idea about that!
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Phone posted:ok good, people are only dunking on dkc1 for its gameplay graphics too really. its a pretty ugly game, i like the character designs i suppose but i was never impressed by the prerendered stuff. i also never got why people liked killer instinct so much i guess the soundtrack is alright but i kind of hate how when you go on youtube to listen to videogame music, it will always try to play "aquatic ambience" which im not even a big fan of
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Random Stranger posted:So what I'm getting from you guys is that I should definitely install Superfrog HD and try to beat it. Yes, absolutely.
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prerendered has a unique look to it. whether it's good or bad it stands out. not all that many games ran with it, so it still has a draw of "oh, that's different". blazing star, killer instinct, dkc and a handful of knockoffs. it's not like cell shading where every game made for half a decade had the same look
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has anyone tried to hook up a raspberry pi with retropie to a crt using scart? i think i might do this for consoles that are too expensive/bothersome to physically buy and for mame, is it possible to get a good signal with relatively little lag?
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I loved DKC when I was a kid. Probably my favorite game from that era. I did a lot of Donkey Kong related crafts and other weird kid stuff. Now I'm just really into the original Donkey Kong. And yes, DK 94 is fantastic. My favorite Game Boy game by far.
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 DKC1 bona fides proven and as one final complaint, the bosses in the game are the most boring, low-effort, generic things possible. Now for Superfrog.
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Random Stranger posted:
yeah everyone has that complaint, plus the last world "unremarkable cavern." its why dkc2 and 3 own so much more. did you get 101% tho
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Vikar Jerome posted:did you get 101% tho Not that much into self-harm today. I bopped out at around 65%.
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Random Stranger posted:Not that much into self-harm today. Random Stranger posted:Now for Superfrog. 
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Random Stranger posted:Not that much into self-harm today. I bopped out at around 65%. eh its not that hard. i got it in 4 hours on the snes classic
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Shibawanko posted:graphics too really. its a pretty ugly game, i like the character designs i suppose but i was never impressed by the prerendered stuff. i also never got why people liked killer instinct so much I was just playing Killer Instinct today (arcade version on an actual arcade CRT). It holds up very very well. Those CGI games look absolutely dreadful in hi def but if you play it the way it was meant to be, it looks great. Speaking of which, am I the only one that thinks Killer Instinct 2 looks worse than Killer Instinct 1? I can't put my finger on it but the graphics look way more blocky and pixelated to me. Is it just me? What did they do differently for that game? Not to mention no cutscenes before matches and no announcer for any combos other than ultras! Wtf
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playing some brain lord because it's in the same directory as donkey kong country but has a much cooler name
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I ran into something odd today. I had a Super Mario World that wasn't saving so I popped it open for a battery replacement. Turns out the battery was fine electrically, what had happened is the negative terminal had come loose. Since I had to pull it all off anyway, I went ahead and replaced it. Also, not fond of directly soldering onto lithium cells.The Voice of Labor posted:playing some brain lord because it's in the same directory as donkey kong country but has a much cooler name Not sure that's an improvement.
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You should also try Tearaway Thomas if you fancy another lovely Europlatformer to insult yourself with. Maybe follow it with Magic Pockets too, for a double bill of poo poo. Then Fatman: The Caped Consumer and CJ's Elephant Antics. I say all this but I love most of the Dizzy games even if some people despise them and I totally understand why they would. And with that said, I put Fantastic Dizzy forward as the ultimate collectathon.
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I'm already tired and I need to order new glasses, I don't need to have to squint at this nonsense to try and figure out what the gently caress's happening here
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I never got the DKC hype either. It dominated nintendo power for what seemed like so long that I just got sick of hearing about it. The graphics never looked good to me either. Guess I was a weird kid, and now a weird adult. It's hilarious to me that there are people online that still think DKC is actual realtime 3D running in engine on the SNES.
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Shibawanko posted:has anyone tried to hook up a raspberry pi with retropie to a crt using scart? i think i might do this for consoles that are too expensive/bothersome to physically buy and for mame, is it possible to get a good signal with relatively little lag? This is what I have running and it is awesome I got one of these: http://pi2jamma.info/pi2scart
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Light Gun Man posted:I never got the DKC hype either. It dominated nintendo power for what seemed like so long that I just got sick of hearing about it. The graphics never looked good to me either. Guess I was a weird kid, and now a weird adult. The amount of people that think Donkey Kong Country has a Super FX chip is, well, a lot of people. Even random friends of mine in real life.
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Light Gun Man posted:I never got the DKC hype either. It dominated nintendo power for what seemed like so long that I just got sick of hearing about it. The graphics never looked good to me either. Guess I was a weird kid, and now a weird adult. So, that's fine and all that you don't like it, and I do sympathize with the feeling of constantly hearing about games you're not into (I was very much not a fighting game kid, and yet it seemed like the entire conversation was dominated by Mortal Kombat & Street Fighter for most of the mid-90's, for example). With that said, every time I see the game discussed online, people seem to bring up that the graphics are pre-rendered. Which... yeah, I know? I don't really see why that matters. It's an interesting thing to know, but just in terms of evaluating the game, what matters is the end result, not how they got there. Like, if something looks good, I don't care what shortcuts the developers took to make it look good. And if it looks like rear end, it doesn't really matter whether it's pre-rendered rear end or generated-on-the-fly rear end.
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Light Gun Man posted:It's hilarious to me that there are people online that still think DKC is actual realtime 3D running in engine on the SNES.
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Chumbawumba4ever97 posted:I was just playing Killer Instinct today (arcade version on an actual arcade CRT). It holds up very very well. Those CGI games look absolutely dreadful in hi def but if you play it the way it was meant to be, it looks great. I have always thought that 2 was a downgrade in everyway over 1. The models were more detailed in 2 but lost most of their charm. The first just oozed mood and cool where the second lost almost all of that. For its faults KI 1 is still a blast to play even today. The second was fairly forgettable shortly after release and has aged much worse. They tried to fix a lot that wasn’t broken which was a mistake of the Mortal Kombat team as well at that time along with a lot of other developers.
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Djarum posted:For its faults KI 1 is still a blast to play even today. The second was fairly forgettable shortly after release and has aged much worse. They tried to fix a lot that wasn’t broken which was a mistake of the Mortal Kombat team as well at that time along with a lot of other developers. And they finally righted the Mortal Kombat ship. Just ignore everything between UMK3/MKT and Mortal Kombat.... 9? Jesus... Actually, I know a few sick fucks that liked Shaolin Monks and Deadly Alliance. But I think we can all agree that if you enjoyed Mythologies: Sub Zero your brain is broken in some kind of hard to diagnose way.
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Laslow posted:Agreed. Mythologies: Sub Zero is a pretty cool and interesting game. But, yes, it is bad, and yes my brain is broken.
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Can't tell if Deadly Alliance actually owned or I was just twelve years old when it came out
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Whoops I still have a copy of Mortal Kombat 4 on N64 just because of how odd it is to have one on the system. Also lol at the early 3D for the series. It's okay for a lark, definetly wouldn't call it good.
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I'm not trying to poo poo on prerendered or get all console war about it not being 3D, I just do think it's funny that people...I dunno, "fall for it" and believe it? Like maybe there was a commercial claiming it to be the first 3D game or some poo poo back then? Just seems silly to me I guess  If you enjoy the game, go for it, I love lots of stuff other people call trash lmao
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Laslow posted:Agreed. I'd almost venture the wheels started to come off with MK3. 1 and 2 had a perfect vibe and whatnot and then they went off in the weird techno future which I think tainted the series for decades. I agree they finally got it bacon the rails but man it took a long, long time.
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