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ShoogaSlim posted:there is not a single aspect of the PS5 UI that isn't a step backwards from PS4 and that isn't dog poo poo It's 4k HDR!
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John Wick of Dogs posted:It's 4k HDR! It's the most stunningly realistic, well lit dog poo poo ever!
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Nov 30, 2020 04:30
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ShoogaSlim posted:there is not a single aspect of the PS5 UI that isn't a step backwards from PS4 and that isn't dog poo poo Luckily everything runs 10 times faster on PS5, so I feel like it's a wash. But it shouldn't be a wash. The PS5 UI should be better than this especially when PS4 did everything better.
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Nov 30, 2020 04:36
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I never had a PS4 but I played it a couple times in a gamer cafe and found it confusing
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Nov 30, 2020 04:38
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I still use my PS3 and I prefer the PS3 interface to the PS4‘s. Am I going to prefer the PS4’s to the PS5’s?
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Nov 30, 2020 04:43
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The PS4 UI wasn't perfect but things that needed to be front and center were intuitive and easy to find. The PS5 feels like navigating a poorly conceived social media website or something. The basic UI is pretty manageable but I find stuff like settings not being mapped to the toolbar baffling, there's a lot of little things like that, but it's all pretty forgivable. All of the social stuff is just inexcusably bad though. It's like a high dive back flip in the wrong direction from the PS4, or at least the PS4 before the last terrible update they did. All of that stuff is still somehow worse on PS5 than PS4 even after the update though. It's seriously one of the worst things I have ever seen a company do to a console.
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Nov 30, 2020 04:46
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the worst thing by far is it not defaulting to installed games in the library, or having a way to pin games to the main menu edit: this means it is conceivably like 12 button presses from the menu in order to access a game whose disc is currently in the system. The Walrus fucked around with this message at 05:27 on Nov 30, 2020 |
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Nov 30, 2020 04:54
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ShoogaSlim posted:there is not a single aspect of the PS5 UI that isn't a step backwards from PS4 and that isn't dog poo poo The ps4 was the same way vs ps3 originally too. They love to do this
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Nov 30, 2020 04:54
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I'm finally gonna play Astro's Playroom tomorrow because I finally got done with 13 Sentinels (which has become my surprise GotY 2020 frontrunner, maybe, it's that or Hades) though I am gonna need a little time to reassemble the tiny fragments of my mind. I enjoy the irony that I broke in my PS5 with a game that already ran at a flawless 60fps and loaded every scene instantaneously on the PS4.
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Nov 30, 2020 05:05
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The dumbest thing about the PS5 UI I found tonight is that a trophy popped but when I clicked the PS button to see what the trophy description was, it went to the home screen for some reason instead of expanding the popup (I guess I held it for a split second too long?), and then there was no way to find the trophy again without going into my user profile, finding the trophy section, finding the game, then sorting by most recently used. Who thought it was a good idea for the game card list to show a bunch of trophies I don't even have and not show me anything about the trophy I just got?
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Nov 30, 2020 05:14
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What services does the PS5 support automatic screenshot uploading to? Still just Twitter, Facebook and their own service? I just want it to automatically send it to my Google photos account or something, so I can share it with people individually on messaging apps.
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Nov 30, 2020 05:19
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I agree it's bad but you should be able to see the details of the last trophy you got from your notification list, FYI.
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Nov 30, 2020 05:21
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Samurai Sanders posted:What services does the PS5 support automatic screenshot uploading to? Still just Twitter, Facebook and their own service? They changed nothing about the Screenshot upload functionality
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Nov 30, 2020 05:32
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Handsome Wife posted:I agree it's bad but you should be able to see the details of the last trophy you got from your notification list, FYI.
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Nov 30, 2020 05:32
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Ornamented Death posted:Just to reiterate this point, in the last week I picked up YK, YK2, Remastered Collection, and Y6 for 50 bucks total. Add in my purchase of Y0 on Steam a year or so ago for ten bucks and that's a frankly absurd amount of quality gaming for the cost of one new video game. Fantastic deal. And not to mention that if you even get a little into the game and do a decent amount of stuff outside mainlining the story, each game could last 50 hours. Easily. So this guy for the price of $50 got 300+ hours of yakuza goodness. Seriously (unless you're Policenaut) the best way to play each yakuza game is to do as much as you feel like, then progress the story when you run out of stuff and repeat. You'll get a ton of playtime out of each. Just don't be a completionist because I think Policenaut is the only dude sane and patient enough to have a platinum trophy for each of them.
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Nov 30, 2020 05:32
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ShoogaSlim posted:there is not a single aspect of the PS5 UI that isn't a step backwards from PS4 and that isn't dog poo poo just be like me and not have played a PS4 so the UI seems fine
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Nov 30, 2020 05:33
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I'm too lazy to get good at Mahjong and Shoji to come close to completing the Yakuza games in full, finishing all the substories is pretty fun though. Judgement is typically 20$ or less these days too, good story but I ended up really hating the stupid tailing missions and chase sequences
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Nov 30, 2020 05:35
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eonwe posted:just be like me and not have played a PS4 so the UI seems fine Yeah it's a little stupid sometimes (why can't I just hold the PS button to put the drat thing to sleep?) but honestly it's fine Also PS+ having a bunch of AAA titles makes this an insane value proposition if you skipped a PS4, I'm playing God of War for the first time and having a blast
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Nov 30, 2020 05:40
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Gonna play Demon's Souls in cinematic mode. I know the Haters will say 60 fps all the way, but I hardly even notice the difference from my sofa and the game looks so incredible.
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Nov 30, 2020 05:44
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Jack-Off Lantern posted:They changed nothing about the Screenshot upload functionality
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Nov 30, 2020 05:44
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PantsBandit posted:Gonna play Demon's Souls in cinematic mode. I know the Haters will say 60 fps all the way, but I hardly even notice the difference from my sofa and the game looks so incredible.
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Nov 30, 2020 05:47
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Samurai Sanders posted:I guess I’ll still just be taking photos of my TV screen then... The UX/UI stuff is generally worse than the ps4 other than loading speed and definitely needs to patched, a lot. It feels like some apple design school reject made it or Julie Uhrmans old Ouja UI team found a sanctuary
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Nov 30, 2020 05:48
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In a perfect world, as soon as I hit the screenshot function it would somehow save a picture on my phone, so I can send it to people on messaging apps. It would also be acceptable if as soon as I hit the screenshot button it uploaded to their cloud service so I could download it through their app, but even that seems far away right now.
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Nov 30, 2020 05:51
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Volte posted:The dumbest thing about the PS5 UI I found tonight is that a trophy popped but when I clicked the PS button to see what the trophy description was, it went to the home screen for some reason instead of expanding the popup (I guess I held it for a split second too long?), and then there was no way to find the trophy again without going into my user profile, finding the trophy section, finding the game, then sorting by most recently used. Who thought it was a good idea for the game card list to show a bunch of trophies I don't even have and not show me anything about the trophy I just got? As a huge trophy fan, mechanically the trophy system got much, much better with PS5 (Xbox/Steam-style tracking is a godsend) but the presentation is a marked step back in almost every way. They brought back PS3 style bubbles, which is fine, but they changed the ding sound to a blunk and it's not as cheerful. You used to be able to hold PS button on PS4 and get the entire trophy list on the quick menu, but on PS5 you only get relevant content-based trophies (i.e. the level you're in in Demon's Souls) and a few tracked trophies alongside, and to get to the list itself you have to hit PS button, tap down, tap right, go to the trophy list option, tap X to open. It's very cumbersome and slow to get to. I appreciate that now accessing further details about a trophy no longer requires going to a new menu so you can view it while in the standard PS button menu, but viewing Hidden Trophies became more cumbersome as on PS4 it was just Tap Square but now you have to tap Options then tap X to view it. It showing trophies you haven't unlocked on PS button press is fine because the intended purpose is for you to real time track your progress on trophies you're working on completing, but my problem with that is there appears to be no way to manually "pin" what trophies the game is tracking on that quick look. I'm playing Dead by Daylight, a game with a ton of trophies with progress to track sometimes in the hundreds of actions completed, and sometimes the game just goes "I know you want to know how many damaged generators you've repaired, but how about knowing you're 30% of the way to getting the Prestiged 3 Times Trophy?" No, I don't need to know that! I'm working on that LATER! Show me the trophy for times I healed someone from the Dying state! The new platinum icon is okay, and I appreciate that they actually have a unique sound to differentiate a regular trophy to a platinum trophy, but I dislike that there's no granular trophy recording options. You can choose to record video and/or take a screenshot, which is fine, but there's no option to go "I want you to record AND screenshot WHEN it's a platinum." It's a little thing I think they could add later that I'd really love to have. I know this post is all about one specific feature but there's a lot of little things about it that could be tweaked for some major improvements.
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Nov 30, 2020 05:52
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the trophy notifications are so boring. rare xbox cheevos make them look like poo poo
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Nov 30, 2020 06:32
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veni veni veni posted:The PS5 feels like navigating a poorly conceived social media website or something. Social media and every single hardware's insistence on pushing it to the forefront of everything we see or hear will be the downfall of society.
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Nov 30, 2020 07:34
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ShoogaSlim posted:there is not a single aspect of the PS5 UI that isn't a step backwards from PS4 and that isn't dog poo poo This is a weird and bad take. Edit: what in the gently caress are people talking about when they say “the social media stuff” on the PS5 UI? I don’t see anything outside my games and streaming services, except the PS store and “explore”. Are you all hooking your ps5 up to your Facebook or something? Yorkshire Pudding fucked around with this message at 07:55 on Nov 30, 2020 |
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Nov 30, 2020 07:52
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PS4 UI Pros: The absolute top shelf stuff you use daily is front and center, which is amazingly intuitive PS4 UI Cons: finding something you don't use daily requires endless patience - PS5 UI Pros: Gaming and media being split and everything ordered by usage is great PS5 UI Cons: poo poo I single tapped the PS Butoon instead of long-pressing, wait, so now I have to... ok circle then long press - I feel like, with time, I'll get used to it and it will be more intuitive. But for the time being the PS button serving two functions is wrecking my muscle memory. It's just raw instinct now after 8 years of owning a PS4. This concludes this month's issue of Upper First World Problems.
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Nov 30, 2020 07:57
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A HORNY SWEARENGEN posted:PS4 UI Pros: The absolute top shelf stuff you use daily is front and center, which is amazingly intuitive The PS4 ps button was dual use, too. Short press brought up the XMB, long press brought up the sidebar.
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Nov 30, 2020 08:19
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Some of the UI stuff is baffling to me, like I just had to look at more than one google search result to figure out how to view the gallery of my screenshots/clips.
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Nov 30, 2020 08:33
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So I know most people’s PS5s are quiet. Mine definitely isn’t. I can hear a kind of buzzing or humming when playing something, it’s very noticeable, and I think it’s the SSD? Is that even a thing? Maybe the fan? I dunno. It’s almost got kind of a rattle to it. I only hear it when the console is running a game and I’ll also hear it make noises that match up with something, say, loading. I haven’t had any games crash on me, the system seems stable besides the home menu crashing and resetting once in a while. This seems abnormal but harmless. Should I be worried though?
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Nov 30, 2020 08:37
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arbybaconator posted:What. What is this Well, you can play a large selection of ps3 games on ps5 and when you load them up they get added to your game library with their own icon, so you can have entire series which dont have native ps4/5 ports, next to each other when browsing your library. You can also upload all your ps3 saves to the cloud and download them for use on ps5 in a way that makes the ps5 ui seem like the best ui ever. and you can still get all the trophies for them (cept dmc4!!) Only problem is, is that its all done via streaming.  the lag seems better tho from what i played of vf2 last night and no drop in quality, but even i can see the stuble streaming artifacts.
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Nov 30, 2020 08:38
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man nurse posted:So I know most people’s PS5s are quiet. Mine definitely isn’t. I can hear a kind of buzzing or humming when playing something, it’s very noticeable, and I think it’s the SSD? Is that even a thing? Maybe the fan? I dunno. It’s almost got kind of a rattle to it. I only hear it when the console is running a game and I’ll also hear it make noises that match up with something, say, loading. Sounds like the fan, people have reported that there is a sticker that sometimes is out of place inside that ends up catching against the fan blades. Hard to say if the extra stress on the fan will cause it to fail earlier than expected.
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Nov 30, 2020 08:47
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AVeryLargeRadish posted:Sounds like the fan, people have reported that there is a sticker that sometimes is out of place inside that ends up catching against the fan blades. Hard to say if the extra stress on the fan will cause it to fail earlier than expected. Also reports of 2...or maybe 3 different types of fans being used in the same model # PS5s, with slight variations on number of blades and decibel level (like a 4 decibel difference so practically nothing)
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Nov 30, 2020 09:12
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The sound issue is a mix of that sticker and vibrations from the fan casings metal on metal. People have fixed it with o rings. I can hear the same thing when i lay my ear on the ps5 but its pretty quiet otherwise, and i think i have the louder fan style too when i took the top plate off. Some people think its coil whine but i dont think it is based on all the videos ive seen where you cant even hear a drat thing other than the fan buzz sticker/vibration thing. Its joycon drift/aquarium doom posting all over again.
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Nov 30, 2020 10:23
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Yorkshire Pudding posted:This is a weird and bad take. it's not that there are social media specific things in the UI, it's that the UI feel like it was inspired by social media. the cards and suggested actions/content feel like the list of stories at the top of instagram or like scrolling through tweets or something. the fact that the ps5 is the first playstation (check me on that) to show suggested content on startup isn't a great sign. this allows sony to further monetize on sponsored content. "oh ubisift you wanna show an ad for the next AC DLC to all X i hate seeing this poo poo on startup, but i get it:  all that aside, the UI is just not intuitive for basic actions. someone above mentioned settings not being in the standard menu which is kinda ridiculous. every system i've ever had used the "main button" as the method of powering off, but again, bc sony wants to push suggested content in the main menu (mark my words they will add poo poo to the single press PS button thing) we have to see nonsense before we get quick access to common actions. that's a lot of words about an expensive toy but i'm passionate about UI and i'm a PM so talking about it at length isn't new to me TLDR long press PS button should bring you straight to a power/settings quick menu. single tap can stay the same and I'll choose to go "home" if i need to (since everyone is pressing PS once, then O, then long press anyway) ShoogaSlim fucked around with this message at 10:39 on Nov 30, 2020 |
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Nov 30, 2020 10:37
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One change I like about the ps5 is that the media section only contains the apps I've actually downloaded and installed. On the ps4 I had to navigate to a different screen to access twitch after it decided to put disney plus and a bunch of other bullshit on the first screen.
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Nov 30, 2020 10:37
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ShoogaSlim posted:it's not that there are social media specific things in the UI, it's that the UI feel like it was inspired by social media. the cards and suggested actions/content feel like the list of stories at the top of instagram or like scrolling through tweets or something. This seems to be only in the US right now, because here in the UK my default home screen just highlights the furthest game to the left and waits for me to do something.
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Nov 30, 2020 10:39
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Yeah, this discover poo poo is currently only for US accounts, my US account has it, my German one doesn't. Too bad I only use the US one, huh. US on startup  EU on startup 
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ShoogaSlim posted:the fact that the ps5 is the first playstation (check me on that) to show suggested content on startup isn't a great sign. Both the PS3 and the PS4 had news feeds with updates about the latest games that show up when you turn on the system. This one is more "in your face" but it was definitely there before. I don't get what the problem is with games being advertised to me, a gamer, on my gaming machine. If I'm interested, I might look into it, if I'm not, I tap over to my game and start playing. It's not like they're popping up ads over my gameplay or something.
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