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I liked  all the way through but can totally understand why the average/casual viewership dropped off, especially in Season 4/5 with flashforwards, flashbacks, Widmore's freighter, more island ghosts, time skips, etc.
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Pablo Bluth posted:True Detective. Season two took a serious nose-drive. Season three is back on form. It obviously can't match the single best season of TV ever produced, bit it's goddamned amazing. Mehersala Ali turns in four incredible performances. The plot and supporting characters live up to his level, all aroung an outstanding season. quote:Heroes I never understood why there wasn't an immediate porn parody of this. The tagline writes itself. gently caress the cheerleader, save the world.
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blackshreds posted:I’m going through Raised by Wolves during work and I’m liking it so far, three episodes in and I’m going to wait till tonight to watch any more so I can pay full attention. I'm still torn on Wolves. Some of the parts of that show are so drat good. The actors playing Mother and Father are tremendous; Father, especially, lights up the show when he is around. Just perfect casting. It super pretty to look at and has some neat visuals. Some of the things in it are just neat to look at. Also some of the concepts could be cool and you want them to get fleshed out. Those are the good things. The bad? Most of the other characters are either just ok or terrible. Also some of the kids are just annoying. Highly annoying. I felt only Mother and Father can escape the sometime dodgy dialogue. Large portions of the time the writing make no sense. Not aggressively bland at least... but some kind of logic normally one only achieves when you are baked out of your mind. Well that last bit can be good or bad depending on your mood. Do you want hard logical sci fi? Then bad. Do you want to smoke a bowl or two and get into something a bit trippy? Then good. It's not going to make sense if you think about it overlong. At first I felt it was sloppy, but really, this is just a show following its own dream logic. I'm not going to bitch about Twin Peaks being weird or hard to follow nor this show. Not saying it's as good as Twin Peaks Season 3 but just follows its own dream logic and rules that might even change a bit halfway through. Then you get the ending. It goes from trippy and not entirely logical sci fi to just something else. Some thought it was absurd but I loved how it gleefully jumped over the top. It was nuts and more than a bit silly but I loved it. First time I wasn't sure I liked it but the second time made me fall a little in love with it. So why am I torn? I love watching this movie called Zardoz. Love that movie. It's weird, trippy with cool visuals and some fascinating concepts. Sean Connery wearing a red diaper, sexxing it up and speeches about "the gun is good, the penis is evil" by a giant floating stone head that vomits guns and ammo at it's tribe of worshippers. I really, really love that movie. But would I say it is a good movie? Accessible to many different types of people? I know most of my friends don't really like it but a few that do really dig it. I put Wolves more in that category. Don't expect normal logic or coherency. Devote some time and then relax and enjoy the ride. Also getting high helps. mllaneza posted:Season three is back on form. It obviously can't match the single best season of TV ever produced, bit it's goddamned amazing. Mehersala Ali turns in four incredible performances. The plot and supporting characters live up to his level, all aroung an outstanding season. Backing you up. Season 3 is really good with some brilliant performances. Mahershala Ali is incredible and seriously should be in everything. The ending still haunts me. edit: have a Zardoz trailer because when else is it going to pop up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVakHZp5ZBE DogsInSpace! fucked around with this message at 21:42 on Nov 30, 2020 |
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Nov 30, 2020 21:29
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More and more it seems like Mahershala Ali IS in everything. I'm not complaining though, this is a good thing.
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Nov 30, 2020 23:15
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Pablo Bluth posted:I was going to suggest Lost but apparently the poeple who stuck around to keep watching it felt differently. Around the middle of season 3 they got a definite end-date for the show which allowed them to actually move the plot forward. The show got a huge amount of momentum from that and was a blast to watch until the end of S5. S4 in particular was helped by the writers' strike forcing them to trim a lot of the filler episodes.
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I'd heard enough conflicting opinions on TD s3 I've been on the fence about watching it. I'm definitely not bothering with s2.
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Pablo Bluth posted:I'd heard enough conflicting opinions on TD s3 I've been on the fence about watching it. I'm definitely not bothering with s2. TD Season 2 was fairly terrible but there was this one great scene with Colin Farrell and Vince Vaughn in a bar that felt like purgatory. Just the two of them barely talking with this sad song plays in the background that was pure, undiluted noir and that is my jam. Google True Detective Season "Two Least Favorite Life" and you should find it. That and a couple of action scenes are about the only thing worth going through. Not that any of the actors were to blame.... the showrunner proper dropped the ball, as it were. Rubbish really but not so much that it would be remarkable or worth watching. Season 3 is really good. It is more back to what made TD season 1 good. You have really good performances with a duo of leads that are insanely good together. Warning: nobody is a perfect good guy and people are very flawed, even when they mean well. I thought Ali's character was really well done and he carried the narrative in a way not many can. Really the entire show was solid throughout and all of the cast did great but he stood out. That ending really got to me... in a good way. I say give it a go. It's quality. I just rewatched all of Fargo preparing for the end of season 4. Goddamn this show is really good. Season 2 might still be my favourite due to the duo of Mike Milligan and Hanzee but really one I try and recommend to everyone.
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DogsInSpace! posted:I'm still torn on Wolves. Some of the parts of that show are so drat good. The actors playing Mother and Father are tremendous; Father, especially, lights up the show when he is around. Just perfect casting. It super pretty to look at and has some neat visuals. Some of the things in it are just neat to look at. Also some of the concepts could be cool and you want them to get fleshed out. Those are the good things. The bad? Most of the other characters are either just ok or terrible. Also some of the kids are just annoying. Highly annoying. I felt only Mother and Father can escape the sometime dodgy dialogue. Large portions of the time the writing make no sense. Not aggressively bland at least... but some kind of logic normally one only achieves when you are baked out of your mind. Well that last bit can be good or bad depending on your mood. Do you want hard logical sci fi? Then bad. Do you want to smoke a bowl or two and get into something a bit trippy? Then good. It's not going to make sense if you think about it overlong. At first I felt it was sloppy, but really, this is just a show following its own dream logic. I'm not going to bitch about Twin Peaks being weird or hard to follow nor this show. Not saying it's as good as Twin Peaks Season 3 but just follows its own dream logic and rules that might even change a bit halfway through. Then you get the ending. It goes from trippy and not entirely logical sci fi to just something else. Some thought it was absurd but I loved how it gleefully jumped over the top. It was nuts and more than a bit silly but I loved it. First time I wasn't sure I liked it but the second time made me fall a little in love with it. I second that, although I also like the characters of Ragnar and his wife Raised by Wolves is a weird atmospheric experience, not a hard sci fi you are supposed to judge by plausibility. I watched it twice and it moved me both times
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sticklefifer posted:You could argue that Season 1 was the best for the zeitgeist it created (including every network needing to have at least one serialized spooky mystery show aping it), but quality-wise, season 2 was great and I'd easily call post-Hydra Station season 3 the peak of the show. Michael Emerson was easily the best addition to the cast. The poster is saying use the same production team to make a new series based on a different book. Not season 2 of queens gambit.
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CarlosTheDwarf posted:The poster is saying use the same production team to make a new series based on a different book. Not season 2 of queens gambit. Correct, he was literally repeating my own annoyance with people. It wouldn’t work, and the answer obviously is to have more great tv shows to watch, not trying to bottle lightning.
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While I'm really enjoying The Mandalorian, a few things bug me. Little plot things, but mostly the music. I don't know why, but the score always seems off and out of place.
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Dec 1, 2020 17:32
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Lucas Archer posted:While I'm really enjoying The Mandalorian, a few things bug me. Little plot things, but mostly the music. I don't know why, but the score always seems off and out of place. I enjoy it myself, but take out the Star Wars universe, good chance I wouldn’t even be watching it. It is way too cliche and cheesy. That said the purpose of it is to turn your mind off and enjoy this generic sometimes cute ride in the Star Wars universe. Oh I agree about the score. It doesn’t work for me.
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Dec 1, 2020 18:06
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The Mandalorian is my new favorite show to hatewatch, something I haven't had since I quit The Walking Dead years ago. It's so bad. Some of the new technology they're using in place of green screen is interesting but they haven't quite mastered it yet. The season two opener had this scene of Boba Fett and Timothy Olyphant on speeders racing across the desert and they were having this quiet, intimate conversation like they were in the backseat of a hansom cab. The sound design was lacking; there was no speeder noise, no wind, just quiet conversation. In the next episode the speeders and wind suddenly made noise again. I really wish Baby Yoda was voiced by Danny DeVito instead of the baby sound effects from Aaliyah's "Are You That Somebody?" clown shoes fucked around with this message at 18:27 on Dec 1, 2020 |
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Dec 1, 2020 18:24
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As a Star Wars product The Mandalorian is the best thing to come out of that IP since ESB. Take it out of Stars Wars, and as a standalone TV series its still good, I very much enjoy it. It's not deep or anything but I find myself cheering for the main hero, and having fun. Also I think the soundtrack works well with it. To summarize, The Mandalorian is cool and good, but the fact that it is the best thing to be done with the Star Wars IP in 40 years should say a lot about Star Wars. Now excuse me while I go back to playing Squadrons... Solaris 2.0 fucked around with this message at 19:30 on Dec 1, 2020 |
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Dec 1, 2020 18:57
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Nthing the music thing. A lot of people really like it, but it seems wildly wrong to me pretty much all the time. The actual show isn’t appalling dreck like the recent movies though.
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Dec 1, 2020 18:57
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Solaris 2.0 posted:As a Star Wars product The Mandalorian is the best thing to come out of that IP since ESB. The Last Jedi is superior to this show in every possible way. The Rise of Skywalker on the other hand...
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Dec 1, 2020 19:02
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clown shoes posted:The Last Jedi is superior to this show in every possible way. The Rise of Skywalker on the other hand... This is quite the take.
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Dec 1, 2020 19:18
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Goons we're supposed to keep the bad media opinions in CD. The Mandalorian is good and the music is great, you all are nuts.
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Dec 1, 2020 19:45
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The Mandalorian goes back to star wars roots as being inspired by fun adventure serials, and isn't a dreary mess that takes itself too seriously.
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Havent watched the second season of Manalorian yet, but the first kinda felt like watching a videogame turned live action, and was surprisingly good and fun at that
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I’m enjoying it (i’m one or two episodes into S2) but I don’t think it’s great. It feels like it’s trying too hard to be “hey it’s a Star Wars western. See how loving western it is. The style is quite western. But Star Wars”
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Dec 1, 2020 20:41
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Well, yeah. It's basically a spaghetti Western roleplaying game. Each episode the hero does a quest that furthers the main plot. And it's fantastic.
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tetrapyloctomy posted:Well, yeah. It's basically a spaghetti Western roleplaying game. Each episode the hero does a quest that furthers the main plot. And it's fantastic. Exactly
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Dec 1, 2020 20:52
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All the nutbars on Doomsday Preppers have been getting me through my lunch break lately. Can't help but wonder how they've been handling the 'rona, particularly the woman in s01e04 prepping for a pandemic.
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tetrapyloctomy posted:Well, yeah. It's basically a spaghetti Western roleplaying game. Each episode the hero does a quest that furthers the main plot. And it's fantastic. Yeah, it's a great series. But a lot of the "Best Star Wars since ESB" stuff is because no one really expects more of it than a cool spaghetti western serial in a familiar sci-fi universe, while a Star Wars movie that doesn't change your life has disgraced the franchise.
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The Mandalorian does feel like a video game, especially this season, and I think that's one of the reasons I can't get in to it. I haven't played video games since I was a kid. They're making a fan servicey show for the people who play all the games, and read all the EU books, and watch all the cartoons. I've just watched the movies so when they retcon things like Darth Maul is alive (at the end of Solo) I'm lost because I haven't watched six seasons of a children's cartoon. That's fine for fans of all that stuff but they are leaving behind casual fans that only really follow the movies. And this criticism is not limited to just The Mandalorian, the new movies felt like that, especially Solo and Rise of Skywalker, the latter of which came off like it was written by angry fanboys on Reddit. The Mandalorian isn't all bad, there's some things that are cool, but it really excels at making the Star Wars universe feel smaller whereas things that came before it, even the prequels, made the universe feel bigger. I just feel like Disney doesn't know what to do with its IP and is afraid to try something new.
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clown shoes posted:
Yeah, I agree with this a lot. C'mon, how many loving times do we have to go back to Tatooine? For a tiny, no account backwater bullshit planet, a bunch of really significant stuff happens there. Like if you're writing a story about an all encompassing world war, and yet somehow, the protagonists keep finding themselves in Bumfuck, Idaho for whatever reason.
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Lucas Archer posted:Yeah, I agree with this a lot. C'mon, how many loving times do we have to go back to Tatooine? For a tiny, no account backwater bullshit planet, a bunch of really significant stuff happens there. Like if you're writing a story about an all encompassing world war, and yet somehow, the protagonists keep finding themselves in Bumfuck, Idaho for whatever reason. The same reason every single piece of World War II media finds itself in Normandy circa 1944....it's iconic. Mandalorian does visit several new and unique places but yes, its Star Wars, so you're gonna get Tatooine at some point. Also filming "desert planet" is probably pretty cheap.
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clown shoes posted:The Mandalorian does feel like a video game, especially this season, and I think that's one of the reasons I can't get in to it. I haven't played video games since I was a kid. They're making a fan servicey show for the people who play all the games, and read all the EU books, and watch all the cartoons. FWIW I haven't seen any of the cartoons, read any of the books (ok I read 2 of them about 20 years ago), or played any of the games and I like the show fine. Maybe it was made with all of those people in mind but that doesn't mean I feel alienated by references I might not get. It's cool if you're not super into it, I'm not attacking you or anything, just don't want other people to get turned off from giving it a try because they didn't consume a bunch of other media first. It's a fun show. I also 100% agree about Tatooine on all points in the last couple posts, good and bad.
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The first trip to Tatooine could easily have been any random desert planet, the second one was a pretty natural and inevitable outcome given the premise of the show and had to be done on Tatooine.
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I really wish Star Trek: Lower Decks was better than it is. One of the writers from Rick & Morty runs it, and he's clearly trying to make Mariner his own Rick, but without the charisma, funny writing, or voice work that make him entertaining, so she's just irritating and her personality feels unearned. It really needs better characters as the main focus, and half the time it seems like the humor is just loud arguing where jokes should be.
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sticklefifer posted:I really wish Star Trek: Lower Decks was better than it is. One of the writers from Rick & Morty runs it, and he's clearly trying to make Mariner his own Rick, but without the charisma, funny writing, or voice work that make him entertaining, so she's just irritating and her personality feels unearned. It really needs better characters as the main focus, and half the time it seems like the humor is just loud arguing where jokes should be. This is all correct... BUT it does get better. By the last two episodes I think they find their footing. Those last two are about the best "trek" I've seen since DS9. Also I'm not a big trekkie so what do I know?
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Speaking of Star Trek, I watched the first few episodes of Picard and it's... not good. There are a lot of interesting things going on but the writing leaves a lot to be desired. I kept pushing through but when I got to the third episode, Raffi kept calling Jean Luc "J L" and it was so annoying that I turned it off. "Jean Luc" is two syllables! It can't get any shorter to say! Does it get better? Also does Raffi keep calling him "J L?" I never watched TNG or any Star Trek series except for the first season of Discovery, which I kinda liked but never went back tol; I've liked some of the movies and I like Patrick Stewart but it feels like this show is just not up to par. He's still giving it his all so it might be worth watching it for that. It's just so poorly written.
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clown shoes posted:The Mandalorian does feel like a video game, especially this season, and I think that's one of the reasons I can't get in to it. I haven't played video games since I was a kid. They're making a fan servicey show for the people who play all the games, and read all the EU books, and watch all the cartoons. I've just watched the movies so when they retcon things like Darth Maul is alive (at the end of Solo) I'm lost because I haven't watched six seasons of a children's cartoon. That's fine for fans of all that stuff but they are leaving behind casual fans that only really follow the movies. And this criticism is not limited to just The Mandalorian, the new movies felt like that, especially Solo and Rise of Skywalker, the latter of which came off like it was written by angry fanboys on Reddit. Completely disagree with this. I've only watched the movies (numbered ones, hell I didn't really bother watching Episode XI until last week) and have no issues about being left out with the references in the show. If anything, the episodes are all fairly self-contained.
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Constellation I posted:Completely disagree with this. I've only watched the movies (numbered ones, hell I didn't really bother watching Episode XI until last week) and have no issues about being left out with the references in the show. If anything, the episodes are all fairly self-contained. Maybe you've acquired knowledge other ways? I had to look up Grand Admiral Thrawn on the wiki after the last episode to learn that he's a character from the old EU book series and the cartoon. The show still hasn't explained how Boba Fett is alive and why he's willing to risk his life for Baby Yoda.
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clown shoes posted:The Mandalorian does feel like a video game, especially this season, and I think that's one of the reasons I can't get in to it. I haven't played video games since I was a kid. They're making a fan servicey show for the people who play all the games, and read all the EU books, and watch all the cartoons. I've just watched the movies so when they retcon things like Darth Maul is alive (at the end of Solo) I'm lost because I haven't watched six seasons of a children's cartoon. That's fine for fans of all that stuff but they are leaving behind casual fans that only really follow the movies. And this criticism is not limited to just The Mandalorian, the new movies felt like that, especially Solo and Rise of Skywalker, the latter of which came off like it was written by angry fanboys on Reddit. References to people, places, and events that you haven't encountered and may never know the full story of was a thing way back to the original Star Wars, and "huh, I thought he was dead" is the stuff of adventure serials in general. At some level if you're watching Star Wars, Star Trek, MCU, or any other established media franchise, you have to accept there will be references some people will get and others don't, both to things which have appeared on screen and things that never will. All of those have plenty of casual fans, and even big fans who haven't seen everything; it sounds like an expectations management thing.
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