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What’s Elizabeth Warren doing in an XMen comic?
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Gripweed posted:I'm reading this random Captain America trade and it's got an issue of Uncanny X-Men in it, and I have a question I'm hoping you guys can answer for me. I know the faces are the real showstoppers here, but it also took me a while to figure out what was going on with those hands in the bottom left.
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Nov 24, 2020 01:33
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Who is that artist, anyway?
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Nov 24, 2020 02:25
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I wonder if the Lights have any special position in Krakoa, being directly connected to Hope and also one of those "We weren't as extinct as we thought we were!" incidents, or if they're just kinda forgotten about What about that one Hope failed to save who literally got washed down the tub? Is he back? Did she try to undo her failure there? Does anyone even remember that storyline anymore
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Nov 24, 2020 02:31
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Dawgstar posted:Who is that artist, anyway? According to the cover, Nicholas Bradshaw 
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Nov 24, 2020 02:34
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Yesterday's issue of Doctor Doom was so drat good. I love how Cantwell portrayed Doom's obsession with Reed Richards. And I love that I may actually agree with Doom that Reed did what he did just to gently caress with Doom. That's just how much of a dick Reed Richards possibly is.
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Nov 26, 2020 20:22
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I will never not be able to see The Monarch finding Dr. Venture's robot from season one or two when I imagine Doom's obsession with Reed.
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Nov 26, 2020 20:26
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I'm reading X-Tinction Agenda, and the one page summary of the events between Uncanny X-men 238 and 270 is loving insane. The X-men split up when they went through a memory erasing portal and started living new lives, then Psylock was turned Asian, and then Storm was turned into a teenager, and then Angel had to behead a guy, and then Madeline turned out to be a clone and turned into a goblin. Also they're all spread across like three different X-Men teams. Now on with the story!
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Nov 28, 2020 01:33
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Gripweed posted:I'm reading X-Tinction Agenda, and the one page summary of the events between Uncanny X-men 238 and 270 is loving insane. The X-men split up when they went through a memory erasing portal and started living new lives, then Psylock was turned Asian, and then Storm was turned into a teenager, and then Angel had to behead a guy, and then Madeline turned out to be a clone and turned into a goblin. Also they're all spread across like three different X-Men teams. Now on with the story! Welcome to reading X-Men, Gripweed! Hope you survive the experience!
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Nov 28, 2020 03:11
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Gripweed posted:I'm reading X-Tinction Agenda, and the one page summary of the events between Uncanny X-men 238 and 270 is loving insane. The X-men split up when they went through a memory erasing portal and started living new lives, then Psylock was turned Asian, and then Storm was turned into a teenager, and then Angel had to behead a guy, and then Madeline turned out to be a clone and turned into a goblin. Also they're all spread across like three different X-Men teams. Now on with the story! If you think that's wild, just wait until you see what happens in the crossovers themselves!  (There were a lot of X-Men crossover storylines in the 90s)
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Nov 28, 2020 03:36
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JordanKai posted:If you think that's wild, just wait until you see what happens in the crossovers themselves! At the beginning of the X-Tinction story Storm has just been turned into a teenager. She's still getting used to her body, the X-Men are trying to decide if she can still be a leader, etc. Three issues later, after getting fake turned into a mutate, which didn't actually turn her into a mutate just made her act like one for purposes of subterfuge, she's an adult again. Because the mutate procedure which didn't actually effect her mind, did actually effect her body. Which very clearly was just because the writers didn't want to deal with her being a teenager. So what was the point of her being a teenager in the first place? I haven't read the story where she gets turned into a teenager, I'm sure there's a plot reason for it, but why not have become an adult again at the end of that story? Why leave it as a dangling plot thread that effects nothing and then gets awkwardly wrapped up three issues later?
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Nov 29, 2020 02:06
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Also, it is insanely hosed up that the X-Men just leave Genosha at the end. It's just, this one cop who was part of the nightmare brain washing slave society says they aren't going to do that anymore, they're gonna be nicer to their slave camp full of brainwashed mutants whose servitude is the basis for the country's wealth. They'll figure it out!
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Nov 29, 2020 02:09
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That was a pretty schizophrenic era of X-books with more and more tension between Chris Claremont and many of the hot new artists working on X-Men pushing back against each other that eventually lead to Claremont leaving the line.
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Nov 29, 2020 02:13
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nanny faked storm's death and abducted her, so storm didn't go through the siege perilous but still ended up in a random spot with amnesia like the rest of the team. nanny de-aged storm, storm escaped with limited access to her powers, and then she hooked up with gambit (in his first appearance). they had some adventures until x-tinction agenda reunited the scattered x-men. all of the team were scattered and broken, it's just that the form that took for storm was claremont being claremont. she still came out better than alex summers, concentration camp guard though. the siege perilous was so lovely!
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Nov 29, 2020 02:28
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Gripweed posted:Also, it is insanely hosed up that the X-Men just leave Genosha at the end. It's just, this one cop who was part of the nightmare brain washing slave society says they aren't going to do that anymore, they're gonna be nicer to their slave camp full of brainwashed mutants whose servitude is the basis for the country's wealth. They'll figure it out! I believe there was an arc in X-Factor immediately after where they were sent in as an oversight group.
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Nov 29, 2020 03:09
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that whole era has a bunch of dangling plot threads where Claremont had like almost grudgingly ended some stuff with Inferno but then went full bore nuts with the Siege Perilous but then immediately got chased off the books because editorial decided to let Jim Lee and Rob Liefeld plot but then they both left so you've got Nicieza and Lobdell flying by the seats of their pants for a while like clearly nobody knew what the hell Omega Red was, or what the Upstarts were doing, or if Stryfe was Cyclops' son, or what like seven eighths of the Acolytes could do, which is just the stuff the Image guys left behind, so it's not even getting into whatever Claremont's original plans for like Mr Sinister and Gambit were
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Nov 29, 2020 04:09
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Everyone was going to be Summers brothers.
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Nov 29, 2020 04:21
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Rhyno posted:Everyone was going to be Summers brothers. Your mom is a Summers Brother.
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Nov 29, 2020 04:26
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Karma Tornado posted:like clearly nobody knew what the hell Omega Red was, or what the Upstarts were doing, or if Stryfe was Cyclops' son, or what like seven eighths of the Acolytes could do, which is just the stuff the Image guys left behind, so it's not even getting into whatever Claremont's original plans for like Mr Sinister and Gambit were Now I think about all the hullabaloo over "the Traitor" and that being Bishop's thing. Did that culminate with Gambit having been revealed to be a Marauder and leading the others to the Morlocks? I can't remember.
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Nov 29, 2020 15:18
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Dawgstar posted:Now I think about all the hullabaloo over "the Traitor" and that being Bishop's thing. Did that culminate with Gambit having been revealed to be a Marauder and leading the others to the Morlocks? I can't remember. The traitor was Xavier. That spun out all the way to Onslaught when Jean finally recorded the message Bishop saw. Gambit being the guy who assembled the Marauders for Sinister was like a weird half step towards what Claremont apparently originally planned, which was Gambit being Mr Sinister and both of them being a like kid from Cyclops' orphanage using his powers to create a hero and a villain, or something.
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Nov 29, 2020 15:28
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Magneto held a trial for Gambit under the guise of Erik the Red in Uncanny 350. As punishment for his crimes the X-Men left Gambit to fend for himself in the antarctic.
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Nov 29, 2020 15:54
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Joining the X-men seems like a really bad plan.
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Nov 29, 2020 15:59
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Gripweed posted:Joining the X-men seems like a really bad plan. They weren't loving around when they said "Hope you survive the experience ".
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Nov 29, 2020 16:16
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Rhyno posted:Magneto held a trial for Gambit under the guise of Erik the Red in Uncanny 350. As punishment for his crimes the X-Men left Gambit to fend for himself in the antarctic. in true X-Men fashion, Magneto is in disguise that Cyclops had originally created to pretend to be a villain three hundred issues earlier, a disguise also used by a space alien for reasons that have never been explained. Also in attendance was a character that the X-Men thought was an amnesiac Magneto but who turned out to be an amnesiac Magneto *clone* that whole Gambit trial rules because the other X-Men there are someone who has knife wings made by Apocalypse, someone who previously had robot eyes from Mojo used to spy on the X-Men who was later Lady Mandarin, someone who put Ms Marvel in a coma while a member of the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants, someone who they thought was literally Magneto, and also Maggott was there, and it's still like "Gambit, working for a supervillain is unforgiveable!!"
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Nov 29, 2020 16:27
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Yeah its a bad comic.
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Nov 29, 2020 17:57
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And one of the issues of that storyline was voted into that Hundred Greatest Marvel Comics collections.
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Nov 29, 2020 18:25
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Gripweed posted:Joining the X-men seems like a really bad plan. Actually joining the X-Men has been one of the most rewarding experiences of my life.
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Nov 29, 2020 20:25
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Gripweed posted:Joining the X-men seems like a really bad plan. It all depends on if you're the cool kind of mutant that can shoot death rays out of your fingers while still looking normal, or if you have a physical giveaway like Johnny Threefaces from New X-Men. The former could probably manage fine on their own, the latter might still be better off at the Xavier Institute. Assuming it doesn't get blown up for the umpteenth time, that is.
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Nov 29, 2020 20:42
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King in Black #1 is exactly like I expected it to be, for the most part. A great issue if you are reading the current Venom stuff but I wonder what people who don't read that book will think.
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Dec 1, 2020 19:01
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Kelly Thompson's Black Widow is cool. The current story is a bit stupid, but those action shots are awesome.
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Dec 2, 2020 13:09
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Lord_Hambrose posted:King in Black #1 is exactly like I expected it to be, for the most part. A great issue if you are reading the current Venom stuff but I wonder what people who don't read that book will think. 
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Dec 2, 2020 16:48
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brosef posted:So he's both Knull and Void?
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Dec 2, 2020 17:15
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That last page of widow
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Dec 2, 2020 17:25
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I'm glad Champions pulled that card at the end. It makes total sense and I'm happy that the writers didn't try and figure out a reason that wouldn't happen.
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Dec 2, 2020 18:01
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site posted:That last page of widow Nat is going to turbo murder some fools.
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Dec 2, 2020 18:17
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On the one hand, KiB is fun. Like, it feels like the goal is "Make a big fun punch-em-up with Venom as the focal character", and... sure, okay, I'm down for that. On the other hand this is WWE-tier storytelling on display on top of glaring continuity errors.
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Dec 2, 2020 18:18
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Oh man Chip, now Marvel is never going to buy you that life sized Garfield doll.
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Dec 2, 2020 18:19
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KaosMachina posted:On the one hand, KiB is fun. Like, it feels like the goal is "Make a big fun punch-em-up with Venom as the focal character", and... sure, okay, I'm down for that. what are the glaring continuity errors?
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Dec 2, 2020 19:35
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King in Black is just as bad as expected. The Sentry is jobbed out in like 3 pages, which is a record. And we get our Knull and Void thing as expected.
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Dec 2, 2020 19:39
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Archy look at what you did
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Dec 2, 2020 20:38
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