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Roland Jones
Aug 18, 2011

by Nyc_Tattoo

No Wave posted:

C6 Xinyan only works with charged attacks, and as someone who started with Keqing, charged attacks basically suck rear end. If there's a Xinyan build I doubt it will lean on that.

Counterpoint: Bloodstained Chivalry.

Flair posted:

Interesting, I got Dolorous Strike achievement in Chongyun's Trial, but I cannot get any achievement under Elemental Specialist.

Anyway, Chongyun is fun to play.

A lot of Elemental Specialist achievements are obnoxious because you can't just kill things while causing those reactions, the reaction specifically has to be what kills them. I got the achievement by following guides like this one, though I used some different characters where I had better ones.

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BillyC
Feb 19, 2013

everythin' under heaven is in utter chaos, cloud


Bread Liar
Got C4 Xinyan and Unforged, which was what I wanted from this banner, had all the mats ready to boost them both up to 80. Threw a (crappy) bolide set on her and let her go wild. She's really fun, I got her teamed up with mona, fish and qiqi. Qiqi and fish give her the superconduct with the occasional melt and popping mona's ult followed up by xinyan's seemed like a really good aoe combo. I find her one idle animation a strange choice though lol

gandlethorpe
Aug 16, 2008

:gowron::m10:

dogsicle posted:

her combo multipliers ended up worse than Beidou let alone Razor (who beats Zhongli too anyway), so of course potential is there but she's just not near the top in terms of similar carries. that at least accounted for C2 (what he pulled) but i missed whether the 2nd ascension talent was included and any testing for higher cons will be after he decides to pull more or gets data from people with that. C6 was already mentioned so he'll definitely be collecting that sort of information.

Chongyun has worse combo multipliers until his C1 (and I just found out yesterday is way loving slower than Razor and Noelle on top of it, but whatever :salt:), so I don't really take those as gospel if the end results can speak for themselves. I hope I've demonstrated that building a team to capitalize on a carry's strengths can more than make up for subpar on-paper stats.

Xinyan has better base damage than Razor, ATK% as an ascension stat, and her physical DMG bonus is only a little weaker than Razor's ascension stat at 80. She can easily get another +25% base ATK too. These should help make up for the worse scaling.

Her ATK speed is not as good as Razor's burst's, I'll admit, but it's much easier to maintain and can potentially be up indefinitely.

Finally, her burst hits like a truck and might be the single strongest instance of physical damage in the game.

Well, anyway I guess I'll take it as a teambuilding challenge now that the game doesn't want my Chongyun to get stronger right now.

Magus42
Jan 12, 2007

Oh no you di'n't

Saxophone
Sep 19, 2006



Haha, holy poo poo. I never save and I think that roll would make me just pack it in til next banner.

Magus42
Jan 12, 2007

Oh no you di'n't
lol 20 pulls later:

Wizard Whateley
Apr 12, 2002

I am a bootlicking scab who loves seeing people be paid less than living wages. If the workers don't like it they should just kill themselves. Let me know who is organizing so I can report them to management. I pine for the days of the Pinkertons.
I've not used any of my currency since launch week, just saving for this banner. Was only aiming to take Razor from C1 to max which I was able to do. Ended up getting a Mona, and Zhongli, and maxed out Xinyan. Pretty profitable but not sure what to do with the three characters I wasn't shooting for.

Wizard Whateley fucked around with this message at 03:36 on Dec 2, 2020

funkymonks
Aug 31, 2004

Pillbug
Should I build up Childe w/ R3 Rust or Mona with Skyward Atlas? I usually am using Diluc and Keqing for DPS and some combination of Venti, Diona, Bennet, Fischl, XQ for support.

Sanya Juutilainen
Jun 19, 2019

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Bloody Emissary posted:

Ahh, right. Good ol' dependent probabilities.


The seventh 4* was Eye of Retribution. I think it was the third hit, and it wasn't a 10-pull pity hit, if that makes a difference.

Supposing the first pity was not carried over character-wise for banner 4*s

0.165 (Chong 1, reset) * 0.165 (Chong 2, reset) * 1 (weapon, no reset) * 0.33 (Chong 3 with increased chance, reset) * 0.165 (Chong 4, reset) * 0.165 (Chong 5, reset) * 0.165 (Chong 6, reset) = 0.004 %

If the first one was character pity carried over from the last time, the first one would be .33 instead of .165, meaning 0.008 % instead.

Pity or not doesn't make difference in chances.

EDIT: Might be a bit trickier with dependent probability indeed, because the weapon can be input anywhere and you have to not roll another character from the banner to change probabilities. But it's certainly less than a percent just by eyeing it.

Sanya Juutilainen fucked around with this message at 03:46 on Dec 2, 2020

RPATDO_LAMD
Mar 22, 2013

🐘🪠🍆
I bought the 5 standard wishes from the monthly stardust shop and somehow got an off-pity 5* from the standard banner :toot:


Too bad I don't have a Zhongli to wield it. Hope I can scrape together the 20-30ish rolls to hit pity before the banner ends :ohdear:

RPATDO_LAMD fucked around with this message at 03:48 on Dec 2, 2020

Tsyni
Sep 1, 2004
Lipstick Apathy

Magus42 posted:

lol 20 pulls later:



You gently caress. You bad person. drat.

Soothing Vapors
Mar 26, 2006

Associate Justice Lena "Kegels" Dunham: An uncool thought to have: 'is that guy walking in the dark behind me a rapist? Never mind, he's Asian.
got C2 zhong and C6 xinyan in about 150 pulls... better than I was expecting :toot: think I'm going to stop there, C4 Zhongli is tempting but not $400 tempting

Kata-Haro
Oct 21, 2010

First 10-pull of the banner



Yeah ok, I'm done with this. It's all downhill from here.

E: Also how do you take screenshots in this game on PC? I'm missing something obvious I know it.

Magus42
Jan 12, 2007

Oh no you di'n't

Kata-Haro posted:

First 10-pull of the banner



Yeah ok, I'm done with this. It's all downhill from here.

I wish I had your roll; I still don't have Qiqi :/

nightwisher
Dec 24, 2004

Tsyni posted:

You gently caress. You bad person. drat.

This is a repost but I'll see their 2 5* in a 10 pull and raise them my 2 5* in two consecutive pulls:



Checkmate :smug:

Edit: ok that pull above me is probably even more absurd lol

nightwisher fucked around with this message at 04:12 on Dec 2, 2020

RPATDO_LAMD
Mar 22, 2013

🐘🪠🍆

Kata-Haro posted:

First 10-pull of the banner



Yeah ok, I'm done with this. It's all downhill from here.

E: Also how do you take screenshots in this game on PC? I'm missing something obvious I know it.

Use the windows snipping tool
on Windows 10 you just hit windows+shift+S, in 7 you might have to search 'snipping tool' in the start menu.

Bloody Emissary
Mar 31, 2014

Powawa~n
Boo to all you lucky Zhongli-havers. Boooo, I say.

On another note, does anybody else feel like leyline enemies are more likely to drop materials than regular mobs? I dunno if anybody's actually gone out and tested it, but when I get Treasure Hoarder leylines pretty much every single enemy will drop something; I also just finished a Cicin leyline that dropped all three rarities of Mist Grass product and two rarities of the Fatui insignias.

Some Numbers
Sep 28, 2006

"LET'S GET DOWN TO WORK!!"

Kata-Haro posted:

First 10-pull of the banner



Yeah ok, I'm done with this. It's all downhill from here.

E: Also how do you take screenshots in this game on PC? I'm missing something obvious I know it.

SHARE SOME LUCK WITH THE REST OF US

Kata-Haro
Oct 21, 2010

Some Numbers posted:

SHARE SOME LUCK WITH THE REST OF US

If it makes you feel better I've been playing since launch and those are literally my first 2 5's

RPATDO_LAMD posted:

Use the windows snipping tool
on Windows 10 you just hit windows+shift+S, in 7 you might have to search 'snipping tool' in the start menu.

Thank you. Much appreciated.

dogsicle
Oct 23, 2012

gandlethorpe posted:

Chongyun has worse combo multipliers until his C1 (and I just found out yesterday is way loving slower than Razor and Noelle on top of it, but whatever :salt:), so I don't really take those as gospel if the end results can speak for themselves. I hope I've demonstrated that building a team to capitalize on a carry's strengths can more than make up for subpar on-paper stats.

Xinyan has better base damage than Razor, ATK% as an ascension stat, and her physical DMG bonus is only a little weaker than Razor's ascension stat at 80. She can easily get another +25% base ATK too. These should help make up for the worse scaling.

Her ATK speed is not as good as Razor's burst's, I'll admit, but it's much easier to maintain and can potentially be up indefinitely.

Finally, her burst hits like a truck and might be the single strongest instance of physical damage in the game.

Well, anyway I guess I'll take it as a teambuilding challenge now that the game doesn't want my Chongyun to get stronger right now.

i'm not trying to come off as if she can't hack it, i just had hoped there was less working against her from the start. jumping into the phys carry pool with two other claymores that have been in since launch and "easily" available makes the situation worse.

mikemil828
May 15, 2008

A man who has said too much

RPATDO_LAMD posted:

Use the windows snipping tool
on Windows 10 you just hit windows+shift+S, in 7 you might have to search 'snipping tool' in the start menu.

You can also just hit windows+print screen and it saves a screenshot in the appropriate folder

YoshiOfYellow
Aug 21, 2015

Voted #1 Babysitter in Mushroom Kingdom

YoshiOfYellow posted:

Stuck at work and can't pull for like another 3.5 hours bah.

Only have like a 10 pull lined up though so it's not like I'll get much.

Correction, I had 8 pulls saved up. All I got was a C1 Razor.

C'est la vie.

TheFluff
Dec 13, 2006

FRIENDS, LISTEN TO ME
I AM A SEAGULL
OF WEALTH AND TASTE
how to speedrun the noblesse oblige artifact domain at WL6:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOLPd5SnCCw

except not really because i play like a huge idiot in this clip.

110k mona crit might seem impressive but with the amount of resources i have invested in her it drat well better be (buncha +20 artifacts, ult is talent level 8, level 80 widsith). also this is with adeptus temptation and it's a reset comp because i don't have a good crit rate headpiece for mona yet. she only has 15% crit on her own, 25% with food.

TheFluff fucked around with this message at 05:11 on Dec 2, 2020

padijun
Feb 5, 2004

murderbears forever
I pulled 10x and got a razor which I wanted. pretty good.

POLICE CAR AUCTION
Dec 1, 2003

I'm not a princess



Got the rocker waifu in my first tenpull, sweet but-

Oh goddammit she needs the same ascension material Qiqi does, which suuuuucks to farm :negative:

S.J.
May 19, 2008

Just who the hell do you think we are?

POLICE CAR AUCTION posted:

Got the rocker waifu in my first tenpull, sweet but-

Oh goddammit she needs the same ascension material Qiqi does, which suuuuucks to farm :negative:

And the same talent books as zhongli lol

Ibblebibble
Nov 12, 2013

POLICE CAR AUCTION posted:

Got the rocker waifu in my first tenpull, sweet but-

Oh goddammit she needs the same ascension material Qiqi does, which suuuuucks to farm :negative:

Welcome to my hell, where both Qiqi and Xinyan are on my main team.

TheFluff
Dec 13, 2006

FRIENDS, LISTEN TO ME
I AM A SEAGULL
OF WEALTH AND TASTE
jinnigan posted this on discord and lmao this is some galaxy brain poo poo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R48RMJ4gP94

RoboCicero
Oct 22, 2009

"I'm sick and tired of reading these posts!"
Zhongli, Childe, and Jean are my 5*s. Would Childe with Bolide, Zhongli with Archaic Petra, and Jean with Viridescent Venerer work at all (and Fischl or another elemental support as the last slot)? Or should I just split him off and put him on his own team?

YES bread
Jun 16, 2006

TheFluff posted:

jinnigan posted this on discord and lmao this is some galaxy brain poo poo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R48RMJ4gP94

:lol: the utter disrespect

Commoners
Apr 25, 2007

Sometimes you reach a stalemate. Sometimes you get magic horses.
Trip report: I gave Zhongli 30k health and 170% energy recharge and run him with a C2 Chongyun. As a support he is just an infinite shield generator with ~8k shields with that shield strengthening thing he has that is also vomiting out a meteor every 10 seconds. He's doing ~14k damage per meteor with crits going to 28k.

It isn't the most amazing damage but he renders me unstaggerable as a DPS between the petrify and the shield, and when things get really, really bad I can just whip him out to face tank everything and just get punched until he can put up another shield.

Dropping a meteor into a Venti frost swirl also produces more frost shields than god and it's pretty funny to see the remnants of a treasure hunter gang all in a neat pile.

Commoners fucked around with this message at 06:27 on Dec 2, 2020

Flaming June
Oct 21, 2004

Saw the golden glow during my second banner wish and thought I got Zhongli, but actually got a Keqing followed by a Stringess for Venti! Now only 89 more rolls for the man himself...

Feels nice since I didn't get Childe while his banner was up

Framboise
Sep 21, 2014

To make yourself feel better, you make it so you'll never give in to your forevers and live for always.


Lipstick Apathy
I had 9 pulls since I used a couple to hit my Wanderlust pity for Keqing.

I ended up getting... c3 Noelle.

Like... game. There's 3 claymore users on the banner. You're gonna give me the one 4* claymore that isn't? drat.

I'm 45 or so rolls deep into the character banner pity, so I'll probably hit Zhong before the banner's up, but drat.

I'm never gonna understand how some of y'all get so many 4*s in less than 10 pulls (and forget getting 2 5*s within 10)-- almost everything I have is a pity roll.

Tsyni
Sep 1, 2004
Lipstick Apathy

Framboise posted:

I had 9 pulls since I used a couple to hit my Wanderlust pity for Keqing.

I ended up getting... c3 Noelle.

Like... game. There's 3 claymore users on the banner. You're gonna give me the one 4* claymore that isn't? drat.

I'm 45 or so rolls deep into the character banner pity, so I'll probably hit Zhong before the banner's up, but drat.

I'm never gonna understand how some of y'all get so many 4*s in less than 10 pulls (and forget getting 2 5*s within 10)-- almost everything I have is a pity roll.

Don't worry, there is a silent majority that is getting rainslasher every other ten pull. We're here.

YoshiOfYellow
Aug 21, 2015

Voted #1 Babysitter in Mushroom Kingdom

Commoners posted:

Trip report: I gave Zhongli 30k health and 170% energy recharge and run him with a C2 Chongyun. As a support he is just an infinite shield generator with ~8k shields with that shield strengthening thing he has that is also vomiting out a meteor every 10 seconds. He's doing ~14k damage per meteor with crits going to 28k.

It isn't the most amazing damage but he renders me unstaggerable as a DPS between the petrify and the shield, and when things get really, really bad I can just whip him out to face tank everything and just get punched until he can put up another shield.

Dropping a meteor into a Venti frost swirl also produces more frost shields than god and it's pretty funny to see the remnants of a treasure hunter gang all in a neat pile.

Based on this, I wonder if the Skyward Spine is a good 5* pick for him after all.

ExtrudeAlongCurve
Oct 21, 2010

Lambert is my Homeboy

Tsyni posted:

Don't worry, there is a silent majority that is getting rainslasher every other ten pull. We're here.

Me and who the gently caress would even be able to make use of that sword, goddammit. I'm up to five of them now.

zgrowler2
Oct 29, 2011

HOW DOES THE IPHONE APP WORK?? I WILL SPAM ENDLESSLY EVERYWHERE AND DISREGARD ANY REPLIES

Tsyni posted:

Don't worry, there is a silent majority that is getting rainslasher every other ten pull. We're here.

there are dozens of us! dozens!

pulled Stringless, don't have Venti, already have Skyward Harp Lv80 on Childe, have Viridescent Hunt on Fischl but I think it's only L50. Is Stringless worth putting on Fischl to buff Oz if I'm using her as a burst support?

YoshiOfYellow
Aug 21, 2015

Voted #1 Babysitter in Mushroom Kingdom

ExtrudeAlongCurve posted:

Me and who the gently caress would even be able to make use of that sword, goddammit. I'm up to five of them now.

The damage boost is basically free for Razor. Outside of burst his claw is a super low cooldown and during burst he's constantly applying electro. I dunno if it's the most ideal sword for him compared to other options but he's gonna have no problem making the most use of it.

Commoners
Apr 25, 2007

Sometimes you reach a stalemate. Sometimes you get magic horses.

YoshiOfYellow posted:

Based on this, I wonder if the Skyward Spine is a good 5* pick for him after all.

I am using it on him and it's pretty hilarious. Not entirely sure how to reliably proc energy charge on him, but I'd say that I will usually have a meteor in the pipe before the cooldown expires.

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Vargs
Mar 27, 2010

Tsyni posted:

Don't worry, there is a silent majority that is getting rainslasher every other ten pull. We're here.

I feel like I've had pretty solid luck wrt what I've been pulling, but basically all of those pulls are from pity. Zero non-pity 5*s and I think I've seen 2 4*s in a 10-pull once.

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