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Stick it out because when you finally beat the game, you get to go back and absolutely stunt on these bosses in NG+. It's immensely satisfying.
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i killed the stair general by doing a plunging deathblow to take out his first lifebar then ran around and wailed on the musket guys since you can break their posture after maybe three hits combined with a bunch of dashing around to try and evade the occasional musket shot and also when the general got too close
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Dec 2, 2020 00:40
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One of the things they did so well in this game is develop actual consistent fighting styles. Like genichiro is a combo of isshin and tomoe (presumably, or at least the style of those dudes at the fountainhead palace where you find tomoe's body). Emma has a feminised version of isshin's attacks, more similar to O'Rin. Meanwhile Owl has a lot of the same moves as Sekiro. Etc etc. And given the attention to fighting styles the bit of detail I just love is how much Ichimonji, basically Isshin's signature move, absolutely clowns Genichiro.
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Dec 2, 2020 04:46
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Yeah Genichiro's signature multi-hit combo is the same combo the fountainhead palace enemies use and also one of the hidden skills you get (I think you get it from one of the pot guys) whose flavor text says it was a move tomoe used. Emma's Ashina Cross having crazy range and being at a perfect 90 degree angle compared to Isshin's and Wolf's both having shorter range and looking much sloppier (especially wolf's) is pretty cool. Isshin's signature move though is clearly shooting you with a gun
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Dec 2, 2020 04:56
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tomoe prequel when
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Dec 2, 2020 05:03
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Shear Modulus posted:tomoe prequel when
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Dec 2, 2020 05:07
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Well I killed the stairway general (after doing the initial sneak attack) with the very Dark Souls 1 strategy of doing my "floating passage" combat art from just outside his range, backstepping to let him whiff his counter, then doing it again, over and over and over until his health dropped enough. I can't say I feel particularly proud of finally killing the guy. Meanwhile the Ashina Elite guy at the top of the castle tower I don't think I've hit more than once - thanks to the poster on the previous page who posted the tip about deflecting after the flash, I can usually do that successfully 2/3 of the time but that's not enough to not die within 10 seconds (and hilariously, when I resurrect he usually lands another 3-hit combo and kills me again before the cherry blossoms have cleared from the page - and I assume before the game lets me block, because while I'm holding down L1 he still carves through... or maybe I resurrect with no posture, I dunno). Every time I finish playing this I'm just angry, so I think I was right I just don't have the skillset for it. Back to Bloodborne, looking forward to Demon's Souls. Thanks for trying to help, thread!
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Dec 2, 2020 22:03
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thumper57 posted:Well I killed the stairway general (after doing the initial sneak attack) with the very Dark Souls 1 strategy of doing my "floating passage" combat art from just outside his range, backstepping to let him whiff his counter, then doing it again, over and over and over until his health dropped enough. I can't say I feel particularly proud of finally killing the guy. The ashina elite dude is basically just a big "can you parry correctly" test. This game doesn't give you the option to dodge or block, you MUST learn to parry or you will never advance.
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Dec 2, 2020 22:09
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Cpt_Obvious posted:The ashina elite dude is basically just a big "can you parry correctly" test. This game doesn't give you the option to dodge or block, you MUST learn to parry or you will never advance. Yeah, that guy is pretty tough because he will combo you to death. I know its generally frowned upon but tapping the block button was how I went through enemies like that guy or lady butterfly. You'll get to know their animations and when to stop tapping and eventually your timing will improve. Sekiro is tough but with perseverance and practice it becomes easier. I mean, I went from getting my rear end kicked over and over to when I did my final ending I beat most of the bosses up to the castle first time. And I am not very good at videogames.
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Dec 2, 2020 22:20
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I think that people don't account for how generous the deflect window actually is, which is why tapping block feels more effective than press and hold when it actually isn't. However, specific fights have specific answers.
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Dec 2, 2020 22:24
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Only recently started this, and I think combats finally clicking for me. Much prefer the setting over dark souls/bloodborne, I always found the dumb accents in the voice acting for those games jarring. Liking the style here. I beat that butterfly lady after maybe 20 attempts, she was goddamned hard. Are you meant to parry her attacks? I fought like a shameful ninja bitch and just blocked everything and used constant firecrackers, I definitely bought shame on my family. What am I meant to be spending all my coins on here? I can't really find anything to buy. I've got 21 light coin purses and 5 heavy sitting in these raggedy pockets.
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Dec 3, 2020 00:28
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Crafty posted:Only recently started this, and I think combats finally clicking for me. Much prefer the setting over dark souls/bloodborne, I always found the dumb accents in the voice acting for those games jarring. Liking the style here. Butterfly grandma is a huge learning curve. Don't feel ashamed that you had to use tricks. My only tip about money is to try and buy all the money bags you can off merchants. It effectively keeps your money safe from loss.
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Dec 3, 2020 00:40
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Crafty posted:What am I meant to be spending all my coins on here? I can't really find anything to buy. I've got 21 light coin purses and 5 heavy sitting in these raggedy pockets. There's a smattering of important stuff spread out among the merchants: gourd seeds, the firecracker prosthetic, some gourds that lower your terror/burn/poison meter, treasure carp scales, etc. Otherwise you pretty much want to save your money for upgrading the prosthetics, which gets fairly expensive later on. And yeah buy the pouches whenever you can to keep that cash safe.
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Dec 3, 2020 01:09
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even if there are no money bags for sale, you can still buy a bunch of whatever to sell later to save some cash if you're coming up on a boss where you know you're gonna die 40 or 50 or 100 times.
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Dec 3, 2020 01:43
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Money curve in this game is harsh. At first you’re constantly broke because you’re always dying. During this period you gotta buy moneybags whenever you can so you don’t lose everything. Eventually it gets better (and you and your character get better) and in NG+ you can pretty much get more money than you can spend.
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Dec 3, 2020 02:34
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Real talk. I took a couple hours before going into the final boss to get all the remaining minibosses/beads and get all the prosthetic upgrades, and I'm in NG+ and literally can't find enough things to spend all my money on. I'm just buying up tons divine confetti at every memorial mob.
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Hulk Krogan posted:Real talk. I took a couple hours before going into the final boss to get all the remaining minibosses/beads and get all the prosthetic upgrades, and I'm in NG+ and literally can't find enough things to spend all my money on. I'm just buying up tons divine confetti at every memorial mob. Yup.
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I can't kill Lady Butterfly fast enough in the second phase before she summons the illusions again. She must have summoned them three times. I get so close and then she summons those loving illusions and I have to start all over again. It's becoming obnoxious. I really don't understand why From specifically mentions using a snap seed for the fight but makes only 6 available, with no possibility of farming for more. edit: and just when I posted that I beat her, haha theblackw0lf fucked around with this message at 10:07 on Dec 3, 2020 |
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Dec 3, 2020 09:54
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The one weird trick to beating lady butterfly (fromsoft hates it) is to just kinda ignore most of the illusions and sprint in a circle around the room when they pop so the projectiles all miss you.
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Dec 3, 2020 10:04
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Mymla posted:The one weird trick to beating lady butterfly (fromsoft hates it) is to just kinda ignore most of the illusions and sprint in a circle around the room when they pop so the projectiles all miss you. I like running in a circle and then when they turn into magic missiles, just hide behind a pillar.
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Dec 3, 2020 10:57
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I tried to do a new game plus of this and the higher damage you take was through me off, so I just started a new game again. Oh well.
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theblackw0lf posted:I can't kill Lady Butterfly fast enough in the second phase before she summons the illusions again. She must have summoned them three times. I get so close and then she summons those loving illusions and I have to start all over again. It's becoming obnoxious. So, the thing about Sekiro is that it’s actually tiring for your brain and taking a short break to be angry on the internet can sometimes be just what you need. It’s kind of a meme, in this thread, for this exact thing to happen all the time.
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I gave back Kuro's charm for NG3 and uh, this is insane. I made it through Gyoubu but it took all ten gourd charges and two resurrections. His regular swipes took off half my bar through a block, and I have 48/50 beads. Jesus. I love this game
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Dec 3, 2020 23:31
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Hulk Krogan posted:I gave back Kuro's charm for NG3 and uh, this is insane. I made it through Gyoubu but it took all ten gourd charges and two resurrections. It's like playing the game for the first time all over again. Grats.
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Dec 3, 2020 23:35
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Cpt_Obvious posted:It's like playing the game for the first time all over again. Yeah, 2nd time is a little like a victory lap and the the 3rd time was like, "oh, I remember this game is hard!"
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Dec 4, 2020 02:36
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The nightjar section before Genichiro is one of the most brutal sections in the game. I don't think I ever survived it without just running to where I need to be.
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blackguy32 posted:The nightjar section before Genichiro is one of the most brutal sections in the game. I don't think I ever survived it without just running to where I need to be. I use stealth sugar and kill most of them from stealth, but yeah it's incredibly unforgiving because if one of them see you, usually they all do, and fighting 3+ of those guys at once is bullshit.
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Dec 6, 2020 14:04
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And then you get through all of them and there's the kamikaze guy hiding behind a blind corner. Rude.
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Hey all, I need some help figuring out where to gone on my first play through. I'm in the final phase of the game and just can't figure out how to get to Ashina Reservoir; since my confusion means I've resorted to glancing at online guides I understand I've locked myself out of the "best" ending because I Killed the dragon without eavesdropping enough? Or something? Disappointing but what you gonna do. but I really just want to finish the game before Cyberpunk comes out. I can wander all around Ashina Castle but can't seem to find out the right path into the Reservoir. Fake Edit: Oh wait I know the starting point was sealed off earlier, but maybe if I go back to the Abandoned Dungeon it'll be unlocked now, I'm going to check that now. Read Edit: No it's still sealed uggggggh Jack B Nimble fucked around with this message at 21:28 on Dec 6, 2020 |
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Jack B Nimble posted:Hey all, I need some help figuring out where to gone on my first play through. I think you have to swim underwater in the moat??? Ashina Reservoir entrance is right next to the area where you first got your sword back from Kuro and fough Seven Spears.
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Mymla posted:The one weird trick to beating lady butterfly (fromsoft hates it) is to just kinda ignore most of the illusions and sprint in a circle around the room when they pop so the projectiles all miss you. The other weird trick is to never let her spawn illusions. If you never stop attacking except to parry, she never actually has time to do her bullshit. It's the first boss that teaches you that this is not dark souls and you don't have a stamina meter. Being absurdly aggressive is to your advantage because it lets you control the fight by sharply limiting the options of your opponent. When they do deflect you (the sound is different than a normal block), you parry their counterattack and then go right back in to ripping them apart. It also meshes nicely with the gameplay because you don't let their posture regenerate either, which means that you're keeping them on the back foot in literally every way. It doesn't work on everything or everyone (Owl is pretty notable), but it's very strong when it does.
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Jack B Nimble posted:Hey all, I need some help figuring out where to gone on my first play through. The reservoir is over the walls out and to the right as your leave the front door of the castle proper. You can jump down and grapple towards the area from the top of the castle at approximately the first place you encountered the divebombing nighthawk guy when you were first ascending the castle, or you can walk out the front door and grapple up and to your right as you descend the steps where there was a general miniboss just after the bull. Here's a speedrunner going out the bottom to the reservoir: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMb_Qf92hdo&t=4454s
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Thanks all; I'd gone into the moat earlier, on my way up to Ashina Castle, but had just completely forgotten you can go left to the reservoir instead of right into a courtyard that leads up to the castle. Now I have the sculptor unlocked right outside the silverleaf field and got a taste of what's waiting for me.
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Anybody play this on a Series X? Does it fix the framerate issues that you get on the Xbox one/ps4? I'm up to owl in my charmless run and the (admittedly short) trip from the dojo to the top of the castle at like 15 fps is really getting on my nerves.
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Hulk Krogan posted:Anybody play this on a Series X? Does it fix the framerate issues that you get on the Xbox one/ps4? I'm up to owl in my charmless run and the (admittedly short) trip from the dojo to the top of the castle at like 15 fps is really getting on my nerves. I don’t know about XSX but on PS5 it’s unbelievably smooth. That exact moment where you grapple to the top of the castle and the frame rate craters was so very annoying. Especially on the 70th or so attempt. That’s gone now
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Took a break for a few days after being stuck on Owl (Father) because binging on the game was making my hand cramp up. Took down Owl, Corrupted Monk, Divine Dragon tonight. Ran around to find Demon of Hatred and getting my rear end kicked a bunch by him now.
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So I just discovered that you can do most of senpou and do ashina depths and a bunch of stuff before Genichiro? For some reason I thought all of that was locked off til after fighting him.
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blackguy32 posted:So I just discovered that you can do most of senpou and do ashina depths and a bunch of stuff before Genichiro? For some reason I thought all of that was locked off til after fighting him. Bottom of the Sunken Valley is probably the one bigger area that is completely sealed off since you need a key from Kuro. And Fountainhead palace obviously.
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I learned the hard way on NG3 that the order you do stuff post-Genichiro determines whether or not headless ape is an optional boss.
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blackguy32 posted:So I just discovered that you can do most of senpou and do ashina depths and a bunch of stuff before Genichiro? For some reason I thought all of that was locked off til after fighting him. Yeah, level design in Sekiro is rather open-ended all things considered. Pretty rad.
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