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Bobstar posted:The whole teeth and eyes thing is weird, and prevalent. Here in NL I can add optional (commerical) dental insurance to my otherwise comprehensive government-mandated health cover, but it's something stupid like €200 in premiums a year, and the max they'll ever pay out is €300. I'd rather spend the money on a Waterpik! e: Polydactyly is the most common congenital anomaly of the forefoot. An example would be having 11 toes.
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Red Oktober posted:My local dentist told me they weren’t doing NHS treatment “due to COVID”, but those very same dentists could treat me privately if I wanted to pay. Just as bluntly as that. Back in Lockdown 1 I guess it kind of made sense to shut the tips for a bit so people stay home, but hmm it's now perfectly fine to go out to recycle, or to pay for disposal, but not to do anything that affects the Council's tonnage, that's some dubious logic right there
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feedmegin posted:I'm not surprised. My parents live up that way and it's Old People Central, very Leave supporting iirc. People round there are largely more likely to align with UKIP than anyone socialist. Yeah, Morecambe is where the oldies who fancy a cottage in the Lake District but can't afford it move to.
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I don’t think there’s any reason to think this rollout will be without gently caress ups, but the doomposting can be a bit relentless. Anyone with even cautious optimism seems to be getting shouted down as a gullible idiot by people who seem to revel in the idea that it’ll be totally hosed. Seriously some of you seem like you’ll be disappointed if it goes well. There’s not really any incentive for this to get hosed up as far as I can tell. Not that it won’t, but it also might go alright?
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Borrovan posted:I guess Covid only affects poor people?  Jakabite posted:I don’t think there’s any reason to think this rollout will be without gently caress ups, but the doomposting can be a bit relentless. Anyone with even cautious optimism seems to be getting shouted down as a gullible idiot by people who seem to revel in the idea that it’ll be totally hosed. Seriously some of you seem like you’ll be disappointed if it goes well. There’s not really any incentive for this to get hosed up as far as I can tell. Not that it won’t, but it also might go alright?
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i'm just basing what i think will happen based on what has happened up to now, rather than what the state press and its courtiers says it could go smoothly but i'd be surprised. i dont think its certain but i would put money on the vaccine program being hosed up and delayed. my prediction would be: > they get some vaccines out to the first groups and declare victory > the state effort stalls and vaccines are improperly stored etc, people are recorded as being vaccinated but arent except now theyr off the waiting list, whoops one of them is just a syringe full of covid or something stupid, and they tell people to just go private if they want it quickly and its their own responsibility, > by Jan 2022 a bunch of people are still unvaccinated but the media narrative is that the vaccine is available and its all over. > probably at some point everything will get deflected into culture war bullshit about vax vs anti-vaxxers while everyone ignores the failure of the programme this is my stupid prediction and theres a large chance i'm totally wrong, but i do know my stupid brain is still more reliable than the british press. i'm not happy about it (and frankly tired of being told "its like you WANT things to be bad" this entire loving year lol) its just we dont have a functioning central government so a large programme requiring a central government seems unlikely to succeed and referring to the british press or the vitality of the NHS as an institution to disprove that is silly. e: like essentially the optimistic view atm is "the people who have been loving this up the whole year are going to be competent next year, the people who have been wrong about everything this year say so," Communist Thoughts fucked around with this message at 13:49 on Dec 2, 2020 |
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Jakabite posted:Seriously some of you seem like you’ll be disappointed if it goes well. Jakabite posted:There’s not really any incentive for this to get hosed up as far as I can tell. Not that it won’t, but it also might go alright?
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Pistol_Pete posted:Yeah, Morecambe is where the oldies who fancy a cottage in the Lake District but can't afford it move to. You gotta bear in mind that Northerners are a bit more lefty than Southerners on average but that's still trumped by the age divide (which ties in with the big city/small town & rural divide). Northern Boomers still big on being fash, Southern Millennials still big on socialism. You might actually have more luck with creating a Free Socialist Hanseatic League from like Manchester, Liverpool, Birmingham and London all getting together or something.
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For what it's worth, I've had pretty good experiences with the NHS over the last couple of years, including diagnostics and preventative care (but not dentistry). I would be looking at this year's flu vaccine programme as a leading indicator as to how the COVID vaccine programme might go (although obviously they are quite different).
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Bobby Deluxe posted:I'll be disappointed when the cure is out, the tories get all the credit, the media and keith absolutely fail to call them to account, and when any of us try and point out that all of the dead people are still dead, we get whined at for being doomsayers. Agree with first point, but on the second isn’t it specifically the case that this isn’t being contracted out? Or am I mistaken? If I am then doomposters please accept my humblest apologies
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Jakabite posted:Agree with first point, but on the second isn’t it specifically the case that this isn’t being contracted out? Or am I mistaken? If I am then doomposters please accept my humblest apologies
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It seems like they'd have to be insane to do open corruption around vaccination but they have been openly corrupt around everything surrounding the pandemic response so far and killed 70k people doing so in full view of everyone
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Pistol_Pete posted:Yeah, Morecambe is where the oldies who fancy a cottage in the Lake District but can't afford it move to. Yes but also: https://krissfoster.bandcamp.com/track/morecambe
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ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:is it a laser? if it is, drum sounds knacked. If it's inkjet, lol that's other people's problems My no-brand 3D printer gives me considerably less poo poo in every possible way than any document printer I've ever owned, and the poo poo it has given me is fixable in minutes with my "Do I look like I care about the difference between cross-head, Philips and JIS screw heads?" level of mechanical competence. I'm gonna just start 3D printing all of my correspondence now - I've got some nice marble filament, maybe I can start a trend for communicating through stone(ish) tablets.
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My mother just visited. She's been to church and was coughing without covering her mouth up. I sat the whole time in my facemask. "Why are you wearing that" she says "Because you've been to church and it's one of the worst places to get infected and you're coughing without covering your mouth up." says I. "Why do you say that about church, it's wrong." (Never allowed to criticize church.) "Evidence" says I. "Where did you get that from it wasn't on the BBC." :smdh: Unfortunately my flat is too small for a 2m distance (and in any case it should be 8m according to Institute of Physics.)so I'm sitting here with my window open and fan on and freezing cold. Anyway, she asked me if I would get a vaccine if offered and after reading the thread this morning, I said if it's pfizer. So as she'll be in one of the first couple of waves of vaccination (being 83 now), I told her to make sure it was a Pfizer. (Depends on what Wales does. One of these border issues, she lives in England but her GP is in Wales.) I'm going to wait a while before having a vaccine (I'd be in wave 7 according to that chart posted up thread a bit) - I narrowly missed being a 'thalidomide baby' back in 1960 as my mother had an old-fashioned GP who didn't believe in prescribing new fangled medicines that hadn't been thoroughly trialled, though some of mother's friends were prescribed it. Some were prescribed it who weren't pregnant and had various reactions (tingling extremities and so on). Shortly after I was born, the whole thalidomide thing kicked off when doctors started reporting deformities in newborns whose mothers had taken it.
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Bobby Deluxe posted:At this point it would be extremely unusual for the tories not to try and insert someone completely incompetent but related to one of their wives in the middle of the process. I don't think they even need to deliberately try that, it'll happen anyway. The vaccine rollout is going to be in phases depending on vulnerability, which is sensible - but I assume anyone with money will presumably be able to go private to get it early and some companies will likely encourage staff who aren't on the vulnerable lists to do this (maybe out of their own pocket, maybe not depending if the company isn't being lovely). Private healthcare firms already have Tory links so it'll naturally funnel money towards Tories without them even needing to add anyone extra in. If you can't get the vaccine privately for a cost as soon as the most vulnerable are receiving it, I'd be amazed.
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I went to the dentist in August because I figured I'd get a checkup while I could because who knows how long this thing will go on for, so I went private which turned out to be £30 which I think is £3 more than the NHS? That being said if I had needed actual work done that would probably have been a different story than the one I am telling now.
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SpicePro posted:I went to the dentist in August because I figured I'd get a checkup while I could because who knows how long this thing will go on for, so I went private which turned out to be £30 which I think is £3 more than the NHS? That being said if I had needed actual work done that would probably have been a different story than the one I am telling now. I'm on universal credit, so that's £30 more than the NHS, or half my monthly food budget
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SpicePro posted:I went to the dentist in August because I figured I'd get a checkup while I could because who knows how long this thing will go on for, so I went private which turned out to be £30 which I think is £3 more than the NHS? That being said if I had needed actual work done that would probably have been a different story than the one I am telling now. I've had to go private round here (only one NHS dentist in town and he's got a waiting list about 3 years long), they've insisted on £70 registration fee, then £40 dental hygienist fee, then £80 treatment. You're lucky if you've got one for £30 treatment only! The other private dentist in town costs a LOT more than what I paid!
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Just off the top of my head, a few ways private companies could gently caress it up: Private storage facilities for the vaccine which later turn out to be nowhere near capable of -70°c, Staff administering the vaccine after a 2 week course (similar to ATOS) because they're cheaper than nurses, Minimum wage staff labelling the vials untrained and accidentally contaminating the batch heading out to high risk people, Private company given the entire NHS database to look up who gets the vaccine first and whoops they sold it to insurers and private health firms Mystery fifth option because our imaginations are outdone only by the tories staggering capacity for inventive malice. Remember that when the tories promise that the NHS is running it, they mean NHS money is going to be going to staggeringly incompetent people who pinky swear they are able to do it.
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Danger - Octopus! posted:I don't think they even need to deliberately try that, it'll happen anyway. The vaccine rollout is going to be in phases depending on vulnerability, which is sensible - but I assume anyone with money will presumably be able to go private to get it early and some companies will likely encourage staff who aren't on the vulnerable lists to do this (maybe out of their own pocket, maybe not depending if the company isn't being lovely). Private healthcare firms already have Tory links so it'll naturally funnel money towards Tories without them even needing to add anyone extra in. If you can't get the vaccine privately for a cost as soon as the most vulnerable are receiving it, I'd be amazed. I doubt that will happen (legally, at least). Simply because there's such a high demand for the vaccine all the sales are spoken for by national governments - there's no extra production to sell privately. I have no doubt they'll be cases of vaccine being stolen/"lost" from government hands because we're dealing with such large numbers some is gonna go missing. But there's just not the supply to support semi legal queue jumping by the rich.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:My no-brand 3D printer gives me considerably less poo poo in every possible way than any document printer I've ever owned, and the poo poo it has given me is fixable in minutes with my "Do I look like I care about the difference between cross-head, Philips and JIS screw heads?" level of mechanical competence. Less moving parts in a 3D printer funnily enough.
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Nothingtoseehere posted:I doubt that will happen (legally, at least). Simply because there's such a high demand for the vaccine all the sales are spoken for by national governments - there's no extra production to sell privately. I have no doubt they'll be cases of vaccine being stolen/"lost" from government hands because we're dealing with such large numbers some is gonna go missing. But there's just not the supply to support semi legal queue jumping by the rich. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feY5KhdXsUQ
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Amazing that South Korea is going to get through this with < 1000 deaths while we are on 60,000 ^ Weird seeing the non edited version of that
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Tarnop posted:I'm on universal credit, so that's £30 more than the NHS, or half my monthly food budget Right you are, I forgot dentist work is free at point of use on UC. Jaeluni Asjil posted:I've had to go private round here (only one NHS dentist in town and he's got a waiting list about 3 years long), they've insisted on £70 registration fee, then £40 dental hygienist fee, then £80 treatment. You're lucky if you've got one for £30 treatment only! The other private dentist in town costs a LOT more than what I paid! Yeah, I really did think private work was going to really be a no deal scenario, £200± and I would have said no and dealt with the Teeth Anxiety. (I haven't had a dental hygienist tbf just a checkup but I'm sure I'll cope another 6 months)
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sinky posted:^ Weird seeing the non edited version of that I know right.
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Bobby Deluxe posted:Just off the top of my head, a few ways private companies could gently caress it up: Tbf we manage to deliver more than 15m flu vaccines every year without issue, I know there’s most complexities to delivering this one but there’s also much more political will to see it done...
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I suspect home printers would be a lot better if you could activate a mode that says: yes I am fine waiting ten minutes for this to print, just don't screw it up source: the agonizingly slow ppm of home printers in the 1990s
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goddamnedtwisto posted:My no-brand 3D printer gives me considerably less poo poo in every possible way than any document printer I've ever owned, and the poo poo it has given me is fixable in minutes with my "Do I look like I care about the difference between cross-head, Philips and JIS screw heads?" level of mechanical competence.
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Grenfell inquiry: https://www.bdonline.co.uk/news/kingspan-threatened-to-sue-for-defamation-after-flawed-tests-exposed-grenfell-inquiry-hears/5109206.article (Building Design - register a free account to read all). quote:Kingspan threatened to sue for defamation after flawed tests exposed, Grenfell Inquiry hears
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