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Gyro Zeppeli
Jul 19, 2012

sure hope no-one throws me off a bridge

Vigil for Virgil posted:

I think it's because it struck in the same year as Covid and people though that 5G was spreading it.

Plus 5G was mostly implemented by Chinese companies, to sweeten the conspiracy with Sinophobia.

e: 14 is a pretty strong dogwhistle for nazis. So watch out for that one.

Gyro Zeppeli fucked around with this message at 18:24 on Dec 2, 2020

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Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



ThomasPaine posted:

Please tell me how to do this.

My personal favourite is when someone decides to fully recline the seat in the middle of the meal service, jolting half the contents of my tray into my lap. And then I have to recline a touch to give myself any room to actually eat, pissing off the person behind. There surely has to be a way of laying out a cabin that makes it way more comfortable without sacrificing too much occupancy. Airlines barely make anything on economy class anyway.

I've been tempted to bite the bullet and fly business class a few times when I've been on a long haul flight and seen last minute deals at the airport to upgrade for a couple hundred extra quid, but I know I'd end up feeling totally burnt the second I got off the plane. The idea of having plenty of space and actually nice food and good free booze on demand rather than being packed in like a sardine for 12 hours sounds just incredible.

If I was rich I would absolutely use it on business class, but at over 6' tall economy class becomes a special kind of hell.

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes
I just climb into a really big catapult and organise for a big pile of hay to be placed at my destination

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

goddamnedtwisto posted:

I was watching Always Sunny on the in-flight entertainment thing and unfortunately it was Lethal Weapon 5 with the *incredibly* long Danny DeVito sex scene which I couldn't stop laughing at, then when I noticed the bloke next to me looking appalled at the screen it sent me completely over the edge to the point I started to worry they were gonna call out the fighter escort.

I definitely know people who have had to ask passengers to stop laughing so loud on flights. Those were all London-Tel Aviv flights as well. Ever been to Tel Aviv?

Angepain posted:

I just climb into a really big catapult and organise for a big pile of hay to be placed at my destination

The Assassin's Creed (tm)

knox_harrington
Feb 18, 2011

Running no point.

I got the mythical double upgrade on a flight to Chicago about 3 years ago. The company were tightwads and would only pay for premium econ for serf-level staff like me. I got upgraded to business at the terminal as sometimes happens, and then just after take-off the cabin crew wandered over and said "would you like to move to your other seat, Mr Harrington?" I thought I was going to be led back to the class that had been paid for, but the other seat was in First. Now that is loving great. A little disconcerting when I went for a poo poo and came back to find my seat had been converted into a bed. There was a window in the crapper though tricky to look out of it while pinching off.

It is also the divine right of the occupant of a seat to recline it as necessary. In fact, by not reclining it you're loving up the domino effect that allows everyone to lean back an extra 5 degrees.

The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

Only two contestants left! Here is Doom's chance for revenge...

Vigil for Virgil posted:

I think it's because it struck in the same year as Covid and people though that 5G was spreading it.

You know the phrase "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing."

I always thought that phrase was about how even having a bit of knowledge/wisdom made you a danger to the Powers That Be as you were informed.

The last few years have made me realise it can also mean that people who are badly misinformed but have some accurate knowledge can be huge dangers to others as they speak with false bravado.

Part of the 5G thing is how people reported how it operates on the same frequencies as water molecules or some poo poo and people latched on to the idea that this was magical mind control technology.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Vigil for Virgil posted:

I think it's because it struck in the same year as Covid and people though that 5G was spreading it.

That's part of it, plus the conspiracy theory critical mass that the internet is bringing about - there *were* conspiracies about 4G, and 3G, and GSM, and probably about analogue mobiles too, as well as about WiFi, OTH radars, television and radio as well. What made 5G theories catch on was that it seems like everyone's a conspiracy theorist now (yeah that's right I'm a conspiracy theorist hipster, if you're getting your conspiracies off Facebook and not from Usenet you're just a poseur) so the bar for something reaching general public perception is much lower.

Mix in legitimate (and not-so-legitimate) concerns about both the technical implementation and the political dimension of the US grandstanding against Huawei and it's all plenty of fuel that's then given oxygen by not just Covid but the fact everyone's sitting indoors on the internet all day for the better part of a year.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Miftan posted:

I definitely know people who have had to ask passengers to stop laughing so loud on flights. Those were all London-Tel Aviv flights as well. Ever been to Tel Aviv?

Nah this was on the way to LA - I don't think it was my laughing he was appalled by, just that it attracted his attention to the screen where this was happening:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxZOfG6pzuU&t=413s

(Not amazingly worksafe)

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

The Question IRL posted:

Part of the 5G thing is how people reported how it operates on the same frequencies as water molecules or some poo poo and people latched on to the idea that this was magical mind control technology.
The real problem with it operating on an absorption peak for water is that it would give you gently caress all range in a country where the air is frequently over 90% humid or full of rain.

There's some very specific close range networks that use that as a feature, you can run a dozen of them 50ft apart and not have them interfere with each other, so that's been proposed for some next-gen networking in large cities, but it's not the 5G I'll be getting out here, that's just more UHF/microwave like 4G and wifi.

Not sure how you convince the David Icke nanobot believers that though.

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

Jose posted:

my last flight i drank so much and went to piss so much i got the elderly couple in the seats next to me, since i had a window seat, bumped up to first class and was able to get drunker and then stretch out across the aisle to sleep
I used to absolutely hate takeoff and landing until I discovered the magical power of a vodka orange ten minutes before either event. I very rarely drink and am lightweight enough that it fucks with my balance the exact amount needed.

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


goddamnedtwisto posted:

Nah this was on the way to LA - I don't think it was my laughing he was appalled by, just that it attracted his attention to the screen where this was happening:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxZOfG6pzuU&t=413s

(Not amazingly worksafe)

Got to say, it's not the DeVito sex scene that I would be worried about people taking out of context.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

mediaphage posted:

yeah the thing you'll need since the printer doesn't have ethernet is a usb print server. unfortunately they're pricey, picky, and pretty poorly reviewed. you might consider selling your samsung and using it to offset the purchase of something like this if the final price delta isn't too much for you (i have one and like it):

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Brother-HL...06928536&sr=8-3

i dunno if it's something that's feasible for you, but if your router has a usb port on it, it may already support acting as a print server.

Thanks - though the price delta is way too big - the laser printer is only a couple of years old and I have a whole new cartridge waiting to go in it when the current one dies. The inconvenience of plugging the darn thing is bearable compared to that price.
Just checked the router - no USB port :(

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010
https://twitter.com/GaspardWinckler/status/1334092722936958983?s=19

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Vitamin P posted:

I don't know how people can drink on flights, something about the air makes me feel hungover and awful ~45 minutes after having anything.

Stop flying on non-pressurised planes.

On that note I highly recommend going parachuting after the plague if you're able

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

Thanks - though the price delta is way too big - the laser printer is only a couple of years old and I have a whole new cartridge waiting to go in it when the current one dies. The inconvenience of plugging the darn thing is bearable compared to that price.
Just checked the router - no USB port :(

alas!!

you might be able to find a deal on an active usb cable that is several metres long, then run it along baseboards where it won’t be so noticeable?

mediaphage
Mar 22, 2007

Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through

Jose posted:

Stop flying on non-pressurised planes.

On that note I highly recommend going parachuting after the plague if you're able

strong pass

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
I've watched a couple of films for the first time twice as a result of watching them shitfaced on planes. Alas it was the guy ritchie king Arthur film and one of the newer star wars films

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



Jose posted:

I've watched a couple of films for the first time twice as a result of watching them shitfaced on planes. Alas it was the guy ritchie king Arthur film and one of the newer star wars films

Planes are the place to watch shite films. Not like you're in a state of mind to analyze something good, or likely to be able to pay proper attention anyway with all the noise and people needing the loo and drinks and food being served and all. Either watch some shite or watch something good but action. I watched Fury Road three times in a row on one flight it loving ruled lmao

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Jose posted:

Stop flying on non-pressurised planes.

On that note I highly recommend going parachuting after the plague if you're able

I've already decided I'm going to give parasailing, possibly powered, a go in the summer because parachuting appeals but I know there's no loving way I'd ever be able to jump out of an airplane.

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



goddamnedtwisto posted:

I've already decided I'm going to give parasailing, possibly powered, a go in the summer because parachuting appeals but I know there's no loving way I'd ever be able to jump out of an airplane.

Simply go with a friend who is enough of a bastard to absolutely shove you out of the side door of a plane

Convex
Aug 19, 2010
Marvel films are good for flights, never tend to watch them otherwise.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Comrade Fakename posted:

Got to say, it's not the DeVito sex scene that I would be worried about people taking out of context.

Oh yeah the whole thing definitely isn't something you'd want to explain to someone who saw it over your shoulder.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

goddamnedtwisto posted:

I've already decided I'm going to give parasailing, possibly powered, a go in the summer because parachuting appeals but I know there's no loving way I'd ever be able to jump out of an airplane.

if you do it tandem you just shuffle along to the edge of the bit you jump off and your experienced partner does the jumping/pushing bit. i was so excited for teh whole thing i wasn't nervous at all but i do warn people that the harness can hurt your crotch

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Ms Adequate posted:

Simply go with a friend who is enough of a bastard to absolutely shove you out of the side door of a plane

I don't have a huge circle of friends and part of the reason for that is I tend not to befriend people who I think might one day push me out of a plane.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Jose posted:

if you do it tandem you just shuffle along to the edge of the bit you jump off and your experienced partner does the jumping/pushing bit. i was so excited for teh whole thing i wasn't nervous at all but i do warn people that the harness can hurt your crotch

I'm in my 40s, I have no more use for a crotch. However unless my hands and feet are bound (and there's no potential tooth-holds on the way out) there's still no way anyone's getting me to jump out of a plane.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Oh yeah the whole thing definitely isn't something you'd want to explain to someone who saw it over your shoulder.

isn't devito in a very ridiculous and offensive native american costume during said sex scene? guess its not as obvious as the other extremely problematic bits of the episode

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

goddamnedtwisto posted:

I'm in my 40s, I have no more use for a crotch. However unless my hands and feet are bound (and there's no potential tooth-holds on the way out) there's still no way anyone's getting me to jump out of a plane.
Would you do it for 10,000 unmarked 20-dollar bills?

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


I have an absolutely overwhelming fear of freefalling, like I couldn't even do the baby-sized death slides as a kid without crying and hyperventilating, and I have done exactly one rollercoaster and felt like my soul had completely evaporated. Heights are fine if I feel secure, but if anyone tried to even begin to nudge me towards the open door of a plane then I have never been so sure in my life that I could immediately kill a man of any size and strength in a brutal, screaming, primal fury.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

The benefit of a fear of falling is that you can still do it just as well as everybody else no matter how much you might object to it happening.

Endjinneer
Aug 17, 2005
Fallen Rib

Jose posted:

its going to be a while before most of us can get the vaccine anyway but its fun that despite there being a ton of people not vaccinated the government will open everything up

https://twitter.com/paulwaugh/status/1334078432603492352?s=20

Business: There's a vaccine lads, back to work on Monday and no more shirking.
Government: The vaccine will not be available to working age people for the foreseeable future.

Goldskull
Feb 20, 2011

Plane seat chat: We're blessed with being friends with a Business Trip co-ordinator at Flight Centre: they certainly aren't the cheapest, but she's an absolute ninja at getting the flights that maximise your time somewhere, and always manages to get us bulkhead or sat behind the wheelchair space.
Anyway, worst one was probably coming back from Thailand a few years back, where immediately after the meal the seat in front slammed back at full tilt, knocking the remnants of my food over me but thankfully not the glass of red I'd picked up a second before. My predictable response was slapping the seat and going 'the gently caress are you doing?!', and it happens to be a small child, whose dad had kerchunked his seat back, who then turns on me HE IS SLEEP NOW WHATS YOUR PROBLEM. Well what do you think, dickhead? Ask him to move the seat back up a bit, as the screen is now about an inch from my face (I cannot sleep longhaul). HE MUST SLEEP! So I told him to go gently caress himself. This dude spent most of the next 2 hours constantly glancing back through the seat gap at me, so I just grinned at him everytime and said 'what's matter love?'

This fella was irate the next day when we getting off, all squaring up, which is when I found out he was about 4ft 6. I asked him if he was going to be sick or something, to which I got a load of Muttley style mumbling.

Other fun: shorthaul between NY/Atlanta, had to tell some dude behind me to pack it in with the loving oranges, it was like being sprayed with concentrated skin mist 30 seconds after seatbelts off, was loving obnoxious.
People telling me to go round the back and up the other alleyway to the toilet as 'their kids were playing'. Stewardess dealt with that one as scrote mother yells 'downt u step ova moi chiyld!' at the top of her lungs.

Always found be nice, and collar as many flight staff as possible on where your drink is, they all just go get you one off their own backs. I actually like flying, I just don't like people.

peanut-
Feb 17, 2004
Fun Shoe
The weirdest bit about tandem skydiving is after the chute gets pulled you then have to make awkward conversation with the Australian you’re strapped to for 10 minutes while hanging 5000 feet in the air.

Nutapii
Jun 24, 2020

knox_harrington posted:

It is also the divine right of the occupant of a seat to recline it as necessary. In fact, by not reclining it you're loving up the domino effect that allows everyone to lean back an extra 5 degrees.

^This is key. On some long-haul routes, they do not give a single gently caress about asking you if you mind terribly if you move back, they're moving back knees be damned. Either settle in and enjoy it, or make yourself miserable for rules that you've made up in your head. Domestic is worse for tall people, to be honest - the legroom even on tiny economy to let you get out from behind a reclined seat is far better than that for the fixed BA/Easyjet seats, you tend not to get peoples knees in your back/backs in your knees, and they don't mind if you go for a walk and stretch in the galley.

The only thing I majorly dislike about long-haul is when they ask you to close the window/lean over and attempt to close it during the "dim the lights so noone bothers us for a G&T" arbitrary time. I booked a window seat, I'm enjoying it, people have sleep masks in the pack for a reason.

Goldskull posted:


Anyway, worst one was probably coming back from Thailand a few years back, where immediately after the meal the seat in front slammed back at full tilt, knocking the remnants of my food over me but thankfully not the glass of red I'd picked up a second before. My predictable response was slapping the seat and going 'the gently caress are you doing?!', and it happens to be a small child, whose dad had kerchunked his seat back, who then turns on me HE IS SLEEP NOW WHATS YOUR PROBLEM. Well what do you think, dickhead?
I've had this exact situation. Karma fixed it, as parent fell asleep and the little poo poo started watching IT. Enjoy dealing with those nightmares for the rest of the holiday.

Nutapii fucked around with this message at 19:58 on Dec 2, 2020

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

I have an absolutely overwhelming fear of freefalling

Ach, Tom Petty isn't that bad.

Sorry, I just read all these posts about flying & promptly had nothing to say because the last time I was on a plane was in October 1998. Which is kind of annoying because I would ideally like to go abroad again but also the whole rigmarole just seems kind of irritating. At least Europe can be reached by train.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

peanut- posted:

The weirdest bit about tandem skydiving is after the chute gets pulled you then have to make awkward conversation with the Australian you’re strapped to for 10 minutes while hanging 5000 feet in the air.

i did it in peterlee and he turned us round pointing out all the different cities and poo poo you could see. we found out while waiting to do it this happened the week before https://www.theguardian.com/travel/2016/sep/10/parachutist-dies-after-accident-on-county-durham-housing-estate

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
My parents want to visit at xmas. They will be coming from abroad by car/ferry so have to quarantine. My dad is too tight to pay the 125quid each that the tests cost that get let you out after 5/6days. However Gatwick offer a 60quid test for passengers. My plan is to buy them the cheapest flights I can find, looks to be a single to Dublin which gets the tests all in for 77quid each and just chuck the flights.

Its all against the rules anyway I think as theyre only allowed to stay here for the special xmas break bit... but they also have to quarantine here for 2 weeks so...

Nutapii
Jun 24, 2020

NotJustANumber99 posted:

My parents want to visit at xmas. They will be coming from abroad by car/ferry so have to quarantine. My dad is too tight to pay the 125quid each that the tests cost that get let you out after 5/6days. However Gatwick offer a 60quid test for passengers. My plan is to buy them the cheapest flights I can find, looks to be a single to Dublin which gets the tests all in for 77quid each and just chuck the flights.

Its all against the rules anyway I think as theyre only allowed to stay here for the special xmas break bit... but they also have to quarantine here for 2 weeks so...

So your plan is to have them drive from the ferryport straight to Gatwick, which is minimum 2 hours after 2 hours on a ferry + waiting time + time to ferryport, to fake getting on a flight to get a test that can be done quickly for cheap rather than the longer, slightly more expensive one... so they can have a rough bit of certainty that they probably didn't have the virus in the time before they rocked up to an airport and walked through departures and arrivals on the same day, and then drive up to yours, as presumably staying in a hotel would start the whole chain again.

Would it maybe be better to quarantine with them/have them quarantine at yours?

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

Nutapii posted:

So your plan is to have them drive from the ferryport straight to Gatwick, which is minimum 2 hours after 2 hours on a ferry + waiting time + time to ferryport, to fake getting on a flight to get a test that can be done quickly for cheap rather than the longer, slightly more expensive one... so they can have a rough bit of certainty that they probably didn't have the virus in the time before they rocked up to an airport and walked through departures and arrivals on the same day, and then drive up to yours, as presumably staying in a hotel would start the whole chain again.

Would it maybe be better to quarantine with them/have them quarantine at yours?

Not quite. You have to take the test on the 5th day of quarantine. So we would have to go to Gatwick specially. Which is a bit dodgy. The test is done in your car in a part of the car park so not getting out or anything.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

Vigil for Virgil posted:

https://twitter.com/AnsgarTOdinson/status/1334015546979803137


A guy at work said some 5G conspiracy nuts had torn down a tower near his house in Cornwall

I can't decide whether it's a better scam to make one that does work and might get returned (to sell to the next mug and keep the postage) or to make one substantially cheaper that does gently caress all, but won't get returned because it blocks their wifi...

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clear eyes full farts
Jul 3, 2007

the uk is just awful
It's a fake democracy
with free education and healthcare as long as you are a dosser and I am trapped here :(

On a long haul, recline that fucker to the max as soon as you sit down, of course returning to the upright position during meals, more comfortable for everyone if you all recline. On a plane not designed for long haul, eh best not if you can avoid it, the seats are different and it doesn't really work.

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