Register a SA Forums Account here!
JOINING THE SA FORUMS WILL REMOVE THIS BIG AD, THE ANNOYING UNDERLINED ADS, AND STUPID INTERSTITIAL ADS!!!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills, and since we don't believe in showing ads to our users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
 
  • Post
  • Reply
The Illusive Man
Mar 27, 2008

~savior of yoomanity~
Is undervolting universally recommended for Ampere cards?

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


If you're a coward.

ijyt
Apr 10, 2012

Space Racist posted:

Is undervolting universally recommended for Ampere cards?

I just don't like the power usage (which is almost 2x my 1080) and I'll be moving to an SFF case.

e: Holy poo poo raytracing is awesome. Control running pretty great at ultrawide even with DLSS off.

ijyt fucked around with this message at 21:05 on Dec 4, 2020

spunkshui
Oct 5, 2011



https://reddit.com/r/Corsair/comments/k636m6/icue_rtx_3090_fe_rgb_support/

Corsair icue now controls nvidia 30 series rgb

SettingSun
Aug 10, 2013

Undervolting is a new concept to me. I just stepped into a 3060 Ti from a 1060. Is this something I should consider?

Rolo
Nov 16, 2005

Hmm, what have we here?
I’d wait and see how other people do with it because it’s so new but as far as the 3080 goes you can actually increase performance while decreasing temps by undervolting.

I undervolt as far as I can while still letting my games run well because my card whines a lot otherwise :(

ijyt
Apr 10, 2012

SettingSun posted:

Undervolting is a new concept to me. I just stepped into a 3060 Ti from a 1060. Is this something I should consider?

Only if you’re unhappy with your current temperatures, but effectively you’re overclocking by dropping the voltage that the card runs at. For example the stock voltage of the 3080 FE is around 1060mv, running at a clock of around 1850MHz. I undervolted mine to run at a lower voltage (925mv) and higher clock speed (1965MHz), reducing overall temperature, fan speed (and therefore noise) and power consumption.

jammyozzy
Dec 7, 2006
<img src="https://fi.somethingawful.com/customtitles/title-jammyozzy.gif"><br>Is that a challenge?
My EU 3070 step-up queue status changed from "Pending" to "In-Queue" today. Hoping that's a good sign of movement soon. :toot:

The Illusive Man
Mar 27, 2008

~savior of yoomanity~

exquisite tea posted:

If you're a coward.

I could be misremembering, but did you also get a MSI Ventus card? How is yours as far as temps/fan noise?

VorpalFish
Mar 22, 2007
reasonably awesometm

Rolo posted:

I’d wait and see how other people do with it because it’s so new but as far as the 3080 goes you can actually increase performance while decreasing temps by undervolting.

I undervolt as far as I can while still letting my games run well because my card whines a lot otherwise :(

I wouldn't expect it to be substantially different on the 3060ti. Basically all modern cards run on a v/f curve and you're just using trial and error to find a stable overclock for your card while also telling it not to pass y voltage.

If you don't mind spending the time and dealing with some instability, it's worth doing.

Edit: assuming afterburner et al support the 3060ti already.

Animal
Apr 8, 2003

It’s super easy to undervolt Ampere, you can get more performance, and theoretically it will extend the life of your card. There is no reason not to.

For me the two games that are most finicky are Metro Exodus and Horizon Zero Dawn. If both of those at least pass a couple of benchmark runs, I know the undervolt is probably good. I’m doing 1,900mhz at .850mv

I did get some crashes on Half Life: Alyx but I’m not sure it has anything to do with the video card. Need to test that a bit more.

Animal fucked around with this message at 22:32 on Dec 4, 2020

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


Space Racist posted:

I could be misremembering, but did you also get a MSI Ventus card? How is yours as far as temps/fan noise?

I've been meaning to undervolt the card a bit myself or make some room for it by clearing out my drive bay since it does run a little warm in my case, 76-77C under heavy load. It's not a huge issue though. It's a very quiet card even at that threshold.

Kunabomber
Oct 1, 2002


Pillbug
Control is another game that REALLY hates overclocking and causes CTD. Found that out when I was undervolting and overclocked the vram.

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

Kunabomber posted:

Control is another game that REALLY hates overclocking and causes CTD. Found that out when I was undervolting and overclocked the vram.

Were you testing your overclock with port royal? If you're not stressing the tensor cores all bets are off for your OC when the tensor cores are loaded. Just like AVX2 and prime95 on CPU.

Kunabomber
Oct 1, 2002


Pillbug
No I havent. Control also crashed when I did uv/oc with my 1660 super, so it's not just the tensor cores.

Verviticus
Mar 13, 2006

I'm just a total piece of shit and I'm not sure why I keep posting on this site. Christ, I have spent years with idiots giving me bad advice about online dating and haven't noticed that the thread I'm in selects for people that can't talk to people worth a damn.

lmao NCIX

Cross-Section
Mar 18, 2009

Something I probably should have asked a while back: Is it normal to be seeing stability issues - like, random hard reboots - with a Gigabyte 3080 Gaming OC on a 700w PSU (combo-ed with a 5900x and 3600mhz 32GB RAM)?

I think it's specifically the factory overclock (because there's no other OC going) that's causing issues, because all's fine when the AORUS ENGINE utility is not running. And oddly enough, it's only doing this when the card is idle, not when there's a game or other GPU-intensive app running.

Cross-Section fucked around with this message at 00:00 on Dec 5, 2020

Profanity
Aug 26, 2005
Grimey Drawer

Ugh but not the GeForce text. I want the whole card off without having to use Precision X.

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

Cross-Section posted:

Something I probably should have asked a while back: Is it normal to be seeing stability issues - like, random hard reboots - with a Gigabyte 3080 Gaming OC on a 700w PSU (combo-ed with a 5900x and 3600mhz 32GB RAM)?

I think it's specifically the factory overclock (because there's no other OC going) that's causing issues, because all's fine when the AORUS ENGINE utility is not running. And oddly enough, it's only doing this when the card is idle, not when there's a game or other GPU-intensive app running.
no. If it was GPU instability I believe you would probably see some BSODs of various forms. That sounds more like a DRAM stability problem. Have you tried turning off XMP in the bios (if you're using it)

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

Space Racist posted:

Is undervolting universally recommended for Ampere cards?
absolutely. that said it may be of dubious use for a 3060 ti but very useful for 3080/3090. and it takes like a couple of minutes and that's it

who wouldn't want more performance, better thermals, and cheaper energy bills? and to be clear, undervolting is a form of overclocking if what you're thinking is that it's just under-powering a card. i mean that's sort of it that, but it's getting your GPU to run at certain clock frequencies using less power draw, this could be the same stock frequencies but less mV which means better thermals which means higher performance. they're usually set to draw more power than they need because not all chips are created equal so there's a margin of safety they put in all of them for stability-purposes but that makes them run shittier than if your chip can handle the clock at a lower voltage so some may be able to draw less than others for the same clock.

basically what they said:

Animal posted:

It’s super easy to undervolt Ampere, you can get more performance, and theoretically it will extend the life of your card. There is no reason not to.

Xaris fucked around with this message at 00:08 on Dec 5, 2020

spunkshui
Oct 5, 2011



Profanity posted:

Ugh but not the GeForce text. I want the whole card off without having to use Precision X.

LMAO what?

Thats dumb as hell Nvidia.

Maybe they are working on it.

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


I’m running undervolt loops in Benchmark Zero Dawn as we speak lmao.

Cross-Section
Mar 18, 2009

Xaris posted:

no. If it was GPU instability I believe you would probably see some BSODs of various forms. That sounds more like a DRAM stability problem. Have you tried turning off XMP in the bios (if you're using it)

I do have XMP on, but it was doing this at 2666mhz as well. Plus Event Viewer is showing GPU-related error codes (278 specifically) at time of shutdown.

Fauxtool
Oct 21, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
https://twitter.com/Newegg/status/1335002707069812736?s=19

get your f5's ready

Rolo
Nov 16, 2005

Hmm, what have we here?
https://mobile.twitter.com/Newegg/status/1335002707069812736

Edit: whatever, it’s here in case you missed it in the post above mine.

Happy Noodle Boy
Jul 3, 2002



Can’t wait to see what exciting bundles they tie all the cards to

Rinkles
Oct 24, 2010

What I'm getting at is...
Do you feel the same way?

Happy Noodle Boy posted:

Can’t wait to see what exciting bundles they tie all the cards to

Thought Newegg was above that sort of thing

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

Happy Noodle Boy posted:

Can’t wait to see what exciting bundles they tie all the cards to

They are gonna tie it to a PS5 lol

Animal
Apr 8, 2003

Rinkles posted:

Thought Newegg was above that sort of thing

lol

Fauxtool
Oct 21, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Happy Noodle Boy posted:

Can’t wait to see what exciting bundles they tie all the cards to

https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?d=3080+...KUwmO.PCTHvSs7Q

you can just return the add on item. Newegg is being surprisingly cool about it. Its pretty much understood that bundles are an anti-bot/reseller thing

Happy Noodle Boy
Jul 3, 2002


Where’s the restock, Newegg?

Romes128
Dec 28, 2008


Fun Shoe

Rinkles posted:

Thought Newegg was above that sort of thing

Lol no

And if the gpu goes out of stock they add whatever else was in the bundle to your cart automatically!

Fauxtool
Oct 21, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Happy Noodle Boy posted:

Where’s the restock, Newegg?

it happened during the half second you looked away. The waterforce 3080 was one of them

skylined!
Apr 6, 2012

THE DEM DEFENDER HAS LOGGED ON
Looks like it was two models of the 3060ti

edit among others apparently

Sphyre
Jun 14, 2001

lol drat the blops campaign is like 3 hours long, i'd be fuming if i'd spent any actual money on this game

also echoing the comments re undervolting, i simply shouldn't be able to get this combination of temperatures/acoustics/performance from an 18L case!!

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

Cross-Section posted:

I do have XMP on, but it was doing this at 2666mhz as well. Plus Event Viewer is showing GPU-related error codes (278 specifically) at time of shutdown.

Try uninstalling all the Gigabyte software. It’s awful crap and was crashing me until I removed it.

buglord
Jul 31, 2010

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!

Buglord
hunting for a SFF-friendly 3070 is getting real old a month in.

Fauxtool
Oct 21, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

buglord posted:

hunting for a SFF-friendly 3070 is getting real old a month in.

you should be hunting for any 3070 then trying to trade/get stabbed locally

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



Cross-Section posted:

Something I probably should have asked a while back: Is it normal to be seeing stability issues - like, random hard reboots - with a Gigabyte 3080 Gaming OC on a 700w PSU (combo-ed with a 5900x and 3600mhz 32GB RAM)?

I think it's specifically the factory overclock (because there's no other OC going) that's causing issues, because all's fine when the AORUS ENGINE utility is not running. And oddly enough, it's only doing this when the card is idle, not when there's a game or other GPU-intensive app running.


Subjunctive posted:

Try uninstalling all the Gigabyte software. It’s awful crap and was crashing me until I removed it.

This. I really like Gigabyte hardware, but their software is crap. I am running a Gigabyte GPU on a Gigabyte motherboard and running zero Gigabyte software.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

infraboy
Aug 15, 2002

Phungshwei!!!!!!1123
That last Newegg drop, I ordered a 3060ti combo and 3070 combo since they staggered it a bit, I really wanted the 3080 but couldn't get one in the cart.

the 3060ti combo ended up being voided after I checked out.

3070 combo ended up with a ship date, so hurray! Judging by the discord chat a lot of orders got voided :(

I could return the PSU but it's a 750w gold rated one and i'll need one anyways.

https://www.newegg.com/gigabyte-gp-p750gm-750w/p/N82E16817233029?Item=N82E16817233029

  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
  • Post
  • Reply