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Will any of these other forums be in Cyberpunk 2077? Will we be able to post on them or just lurk?
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Sedisp posted:I will bet you dollars to donuts the weird transphobic ads are not addressed in any way shape or form in the game and according to the dude who played the entire game : this view is accurate do you need something to be directly addressed to know that it's bad lmfao
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Dec 6, 2020 01:25
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The number of people who are already upset by this game who will still purchase the game and play it so that they can complain about it, is going to be a lot, I think.
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Dec 6, 2020 01:26
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ok maybe we actually need three threads
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Dec 6, 2020 01:26
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rap music posted:ok maybe we actually need three threads Four if you’re counting Dong and Vag Development and Testing
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Dec 6, 2020 01:28
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The spoiler thread, the complaining thread, and the don't you dare make me think critically about my new toy thread
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Dec 6, 2020 01:28
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Relax Or DIE posted:The spoiler thread, the complaining thread, and the don't you dare make me think critically about my new toy thread no one here is thinking critically about this game if what I've read for the last page of so is the trend
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Dec 6, 2020 01:30
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Zaphod42 posted:There's equally exploitative ads about heterosexuals and that's a main part of literally the main theme and message of the game Games can have flaws and be good games I know this is heterodoxy for some of the thread regulars but I believe in my heart of heart for this to be possible. grieving for Gandalf posted:do you need something to be directly addressed to know that it's bad lmfao It's kind of a lovely idea to borrow the struggles of a real life group for wow cool robot and then just to not depict those struggles in any way shape or form no?
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Dec 6, 2020 01:31
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eonwe posted:my take on it is that content existing doesn't mean the developers are endorsing that point of view these people are dumb loving dipshits and while cultural criticism is cool and good, we need to gate keep that poo poo. like as a history major, everyone i sorta like in history(majority have been dead for at least half a century) are problamtic at best by todays standards on some level. same with books from long dead authors. outside JK rowling gently caress that rear end in a top hat. Max Wilco posted:Out of curiosity, does ResetEra have a postive/negative opinion of Something Awful? never saw. i know one of my goon friends had an account and got banned over some weird bullshit so idk. also the thread there is back. mods basicaly will have some message in the OT saying that CDPR has issues(which is reasonable) and some people got probed and temp banned,. Wolfsheim posted:Hoping this impacts CDPR just as much as the several articles about the GTAV torture sequence affected Rockstar whats funny about that scene is the whole torture scene proves it doesn't work. no matter how long you do it, everyone at the house is innocent and its just the not CIA or whatever trying to justfy some gently caress up they did or whatever. like yeah its still gross as gently caress and i think 4 is better than 5 but lol.
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Dec 6, 2020 01:31
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Sedisp posted:I will bet you dollars to donuts the weird transphobic ads are not addressed in any way shape or form in the game and according to the dude who played the entire game : this view is accurate i mean. its clear the world is a rotten hellscape and poo poo. like yeah its gross but its supposed to be gross and i am pretty sure the artist is LGBTQ. so idk. i am guessing transgender folks are just accepted in cyberpunk because its corpo hellscape that believes everyone can be exploited equally and in extreame ways. idk whatever. grieving for Gandalf posted:do you need something to be directly addressed to know that it's bad lmfao according to resetera and twitter, yes. The “anything depicted in media is endorsement of that thing” is maybe my #1 pet peeve Dapper_Swindler fucked around with this message at 01:37 on Dec 6, 2020 |
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Dec 6, 2020 01:35
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Funny thing about the torture sequence is showing it was hosed up...because goddamn Trevor was bugged by it. If something bothers Trevor then you know it’s pretty hosed up or it’s related to a meth deal going wrong.
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Dec 6, 2020 01:36
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i gathered that the game world is meant to portray a post gender society when I learned that you could buy new genitalia with your taquitos at cyber 7-11
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Dec 6, 2020 01:38
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Sedisp posted:
the whole setting is about how lovely capitalism is. you don't need Johnny Silveraces to turn a chair around and sit in it backwards and say directly to the PC, "hey gang, we have a lot of fun around here, but the reason this exploitative ad is here is because it's an example of how capitalism exploits people and identities to sell products. it's bad actually" you're an adult
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Dec 6, 2020 01:39
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rap music posted:i haven't heard about any ad debacle Long story, first link in here details it at the time. I do think you're right though, the majority of the people who are still upset about it seem to be mainly the games journalists (ETHICS!!!!) who want to write stories about it. By and large I think the gaming community has forgotten about it or never really cared that much to begin with. Note: the last thing I want this to come off as is "why are people upset about this?" because there are valid arguments for why it's offensive and there's no need to silence any irl trans voices who feel strongly about it. Mainly more agreeing that it doesn't seem like this has really been signal boosted much past the initial outcry
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Dec 6, 2020 01:39
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MazelTovCocktail posted:Funny thing about the torture sequence is showing it was hosed up...because goddamn Trevor was bugged by it. If something bothers Trevor then you know it’s pretty hosed up or it’s related to a meth deal going wrong. yeah. like trevor is a monster but he has some ethics and lines. 
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Dec 6, 2020 01:39
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Dapper_Swindler posted:yeah. like trevor is a monster but he has some ethics and lines. Yep, honestly those tend to make the best characters vs pure absolute poo poo. I always loved the Paul Servino line in Rocketeer about that.
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Dec 6, 2020 01:41
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rap music posted:i haven't heard about any ad debacle It was a big deal within this very thread.
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Dec 6, 2020 01:41
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grieving for Gandalf posted:the whole setting is about how lovely capitalism is. you don't need Johnny Silveraces to turn a chair around and sit in it backwards and say directly to the PC, "hey gang, we have a lot of fun around here, but the reason this exploitative ad is here is because it's an example of how capitalism exploits people and identities to sell products. it's bad actually" This is a wild way to take "the struggles of this community will not be addressed in any shape way or form" clearly the only way to do this is to look at the camera and say transphobia is bad.
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Dec 6, 2020 01:42
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grieving for Gandalf posted:the whole setting is about how lovely capitalism is. you don't need Johnny Silveraces to turn a chair around and sit in it backwards and say directly to the PC, "hey gang, we have a lot of fun around here, but the reason this exploitative ad is here is because it's an example of how capitalism exploits people and identities to sell products. it's bad actually" they ground their employees into dust in real life to get the lovely capitalism part across, not sure why anyone expects them to explore other ideas in the narrative of their narrative driven game??
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Dec 6, 2020 01:43
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Relax Or DIE posted:they ground their employees into dust in real life to get the lovely capitalism part across, not sure why anyone expects them to explore other ideas in the narrative of their narrative driven game?? This just means that the anti-capitalist narrative is coming from a place of experience. It's going to make it so much more authentic!
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Dec 6, 2020 01:45
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I'm about to post a release thread. I might use the title Cyberpunk 2077 - Release Thread: Penis, Penis, Vagina but I'm open to better suggestions. Edit: It was also (relatively) a lot of work, so I wasn't paying close attention to this thread.
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Dec 6, 2020 01:47
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The only person I know of, referenced in this thread at least, who finished the game beelined the main quest and engaged in minimal side content. Perhaps what you're looking for is off the beaten path? We won't know until we actually get to play the game ourselves instead of vicariously through other people and, arguably, their agendas.
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Dec 6, 2020 01:48
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itry posted:I'm about to post a release thread. I might use the title Cyberpunk 2077 - Release Thread: Penis, Penis, Vagina but I'm open to better suggestions. You planning to make this the main or the spoiler thread?
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Dec 6, 2020 01:49
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weg posted:This just means that the anti-capitalist narrative is coming from a place of experience. It's going to make it so much more authentic! Honestly it’s kind of shocking that a game that could be construed to be Anti-Capitalists would come from Poland of all places. I wouldn’t be shocked if there isn’t also critiques of socialism/Marxism. That I guess beyond Nomads...does anything akin to that even still exist in the CP2077* world? *Finally figured out a decent way to abbreviate the title.
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Dec 6, 2020 01:49
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marshmallow creep posted:You planning to make this the main or the spoiler thread? Main thread.
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Dec 6, 2020 01:50
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it's unfortunate, but it seems as though this game about transhumanism and the commodification of the body by corporations will not be addressing transpeople or the commodification of their bodies to sell soda in its setting
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Dec 6, 2020 01:50
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i liked "penis 3 got cut"
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Dec 6, 2020 01:50
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MazelTovCocktail posted:Yep, honestly those tend to make the best characters vs pure absolute poo poo. I always loved the Paul Servino line in Rocketeer about that. the rockateer is a loving amazing movie and i am glad someone else remembers that scene too. Cael posted:Long story, first link in here details it at the time. I do think you're right though, the majority of the people who are still upset about it seem to be mainly the games journalists (ETHICS!!!!) who want to write stories about it. By and large I think the gaming community has forgotten about it or never really cared that much to begin with. its the same poo poo plus them stretching poo poo about the voodoo boys when they actuall speak real haitian creole and are played by hatian actors and such, some of this feels really streatchy at times and i am someone who does agree that CDPR probably does need to do better with stuff but folks acting like the voice-gender thing is a clear showing of them being alt right chuds seems dumb to me, like it sucks but most people don't know the ins and outs of being a trans person, i sure as hell don't and i doubt a billion dollar game does either fully. do i think they should have way more LGBTQ consultants and poo poo. sure. but i dont think that folks and CDPR are rubbing their hands together and laughing at the thought of a trans person being sad/distressed over the game.
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Dec 6, 2020 01:53
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I remember having a Rocketeer comics you could read with 3d glasses. It was pretty cool.
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Dec 6, 2020 01:56
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Bust Rodd posted:hey just so you know everyone in the MTG Arena thread thought that you died haha whoops. I guess I forgot to let everyone know I was back after that eight months break. I had to stop playing Arena around the time I left for a lot of reasons. I miss it, but I don't have the time to put in.
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Dec 6, 2020 01:56
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MazelTovCocktail posted:Honestly it’s kind of shocking that a game that could be construed to be Anti-Capitalists would come from Poland of all places. I wouldn’t be shocked if there isn’t also critiques of socialism/Marxism. That I guess beyond Nomads...does anything akin to that even still exist in the CP2077* world? no. nomads sorta probably know about marxism and philosophies/etc in general because they still have actual schools and beliefs. cyberpunk is basicaly 2000AD universe but they pump up the consumerism/tone some stuff down and its less about facist goverment and more about corpos ruling everything. i think pondsmith is pretty lefty in general so i think he has some overview of it. https://cyberpunk.fandom.com/wiki/Timeline
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Dec 6, 2020 01:57
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Dapper_Swindler posted:the rockateer is a loving amazing movie and i am glad someone else remembers that scene too. Lol yep the movie was a bunch of fun and that is probably my favorite line in the movie. https://youtu.be/uyRknVzkVcQ https://youtu.be/RdnSuxydDT4
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Dec 6, 2020 01:59
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itry posted:Cyberpunk 2077 - Release Thread: Penis, Penis 2, Vagina Slight change, I think this will get more people interested
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Dec 6, 2020 02:00
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grieving for Gandalf posted:the whole setting is about how lovely capitalism is. you don't need Johnny Silveraces to turn a chair around and sit in it backwards and say directly to the PC, "hey gang, we have a lot of fun around here, but the reason this exploitative ad is here is because it's an example of how capitalism exploits people and identities to sell products. it's bad actually" Think of how much better robocop would be if the words 'capitalism is bad' flashed on the bottom of the screen every few seconds though
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Dec 6, 2020 02:03
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Wolfsheim posted:Think of how much better robocop would be if the words 'capitalism is bad' flashed on the bottom of the screen every few seconds though RoboCop's targeting visor locking onto the soda machine and not knowing whether to consider it friendly or not
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Dec 6, 2020 02:05
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Cyberpunk 2077 - Release Thread: Chrome Penis Unlocked
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Dec 6, 2020 02:10
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The pistol tree someone posted looks interesting. It seems like rifle/sniper is all about crouching/cover shooting while handguns are the run and gun option. You can fire on the move better, dodge, and can get temporary defense buffs. Presumably the shotun/lmg tree on Body is also run and gun but maybe it's shotgun for moving and lmg for firing from cover. Is there an explicit cover system?
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Dec 6, 2020 02:15
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So how big can I make my virtual dick
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Dec 6, 2020 02:15
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Cyberpunk 2077 - RTX:On, Nipples:Off, time to activate Kereznikov
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Dec 6, 2020 02:18
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:So how big can I make my virtual dick We regret to inform you that due to a decimal error, your dick is not 2077 mm but 20.77 mm.
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Dec 6, 2020 02:21
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