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Macichne Leainig
Jul 26, 2012

by VG

Hyperactive posted:

Not really. You can build 20,000 objects. In theory this could be 20,000 base computers.

I mean there probably IS a limit lower than that, but there are folks who have multiple bases in each of the 255 galaxies, so it’s safe to say the limit is functionally nonexistent.

So, tear down that starter base if you like or keep it up. I remodeled mine into a handsome if simple wooden shack with a fancy statue on top to commemorate my humble beginnings.

This type of game works best if you just don't get attached to your first few bases anyway. Once you complete the questline and round out your blueprint collection, though...

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blarzgh
Apr 14, 2009

SNITCHIN' RANDY
Grimey Drawer
I have at least 30 "bases." About half of them are just resource spots of whatever, but I have 10+ fully-built-out, designed and decorated monstrosities.

DelphiAegis
Jun 21, 2010
I suppose I am still in the mindset of having a "home" to return to, a la minecraft or something. When in reality, most "home" things can be done on the freighter and the initial base only "felt" expensive because I was scraping for resources at each turn. Now a quick visit to any space station gets me thousands of any of the basic resources. Looking back, none of the major base components seem to take much..

Though grinding out the salvaged data modules for some of the base stuff is pretty tedious, not gonna lie.

Zesty
Jan 17, 2012

The Great Twist
Eventually you get SO much inventory space on your person that you don't really need a home. My freighter served that role and now it's just a mobile bulk forge with a market and teleporter.

Mailer
Nov 4, 2009

Have you accepted The Void as your lord and savior?

Glazius posted:

Why do you need to deconstruct things? You have millions.

There is both a hard per-account limit and a per-base limit. I heard the last patch upped the base limit on the newer consoles, and the PC limit is decided by your graphics settings but can be manually modified in a config file. Always destroy things, because if you get into even moderate industrialization you can and will hit your account limit and you'll never remember which one of your 80 bases had that extra bit you were working on but never finished.

Iron Lung
Jul 24, 2007
Life.Iron Lung. Death.

Zesty posted:

Eventually you get SO much inventory space on your person that you don't really need a home. My freighter served that role and now it's just a mobile bulk forge with a market and teleporter.

What should I be looking for to make this happen, or is it just an eventuality? I just started this and I'm hooked while I wait for cyberpunk. I'm doing an anomaly generated survey mission by myself and found my first drop pod - but of course my inventories are all full and I dont have enough space to get the components to fix it! I've been trying to expand my suit whenever I get to a new space station but i'm not that far in yet, <15 hours. I also was exploring, heard a mighty rumble, and turned around to see a massive horned worm rocketing out of the ground in the distance, which was cool even though the game wouldn't let analyze it. Also hollowed out the mountain near my first base so I could have a cool semi-under-a-mountain lair, which I love but the game does not. So many unloaded textures and pop-ins lol. It's kind of charming how bad some of the bugs still are after being out for 4 years, but I guess I'm glad I waited this long to pick it up!

Ciaphas
Nov 20, 2005

> BEWARE, COWARD :ovr:


do glitched silos/collectors only need one set of pipes and power cables or something?

Poniard
Apr 3, 2011



Ciaphas posted:

do glitched silos/collectors only need one set of pipes and power cables or something?

yes

Ciaphas
Nov 20, 2005

> BEWARE, COWARD :ovr:


well, drat. I never bothered learning how to glitch build because i figured you'd still have to do up all the connectors. wild.

Been playing this for much of the last week - I first tried it a couple years ago and got bored, as many did, but there is so much crap to look at and do now. Been having a good time just s lowly plodding along on all three major quests, setting up a couple activated Indium mines along the way and wondering when the hell I'm gonna find a blue freighter hyperdrive upgrade

could do with shorter loadtimes through teleporters though, christ

DelphiAegis
Jun 21, 2010
What is glitch building exactly? I noticed you can place wires/pipes wherever you like and items that connect to them seem to snap to the connection you made, is that part of it?

Hyperactive
Mar 10, 2004

RICHARDS!

DelphiAegis posted:

What is glitch building exactly? I noticed you can place wires/pipes wherever you like and items that connect to them seem to snap to the connection you made, is that part of it?

Pretty much! There are a couple different methods. Lots of videos out there but I found most of them start at the intermediate level where it assumes you already know how to do it with no real explanation.

I think I’m doing it right but it never works so maybe my timing is off. Too fast? Too slow? Who knows!

Slimy Hog
Apr 22, 2008

I started playing a couple days ago and am enjoying it! Last night I was doing some stuff in the Anomaly and some random stranger gave me a bunch of stuff, one stack selling for 45M (I ended up buying a freighter).

Iron Lung
Jul 24, 2007
Life.Iron Lung. Death.

Slimy Hog posted:

I started playing a couple days ago and am enjoying it! Last night I was doing some stuff in the Anomaly and some random stranger gave me a bunch of stuff, one stack selling for 45M (I ended up buying a freighter).

drat. Someone gave me some random mineral once, so that's pretty lucky! Make sure to pay it forward (to me!!!!!). Yeah this game has me hooked, but I truly think half of it is because of how buggy it can be. It's goofy as heck and I love it.

DelphiAegis
Jun 21, 2010
I had the same thing happen, someone in the anomaly just said "Hey who needs money" and then gave me 5 stasis devices. If I see you around Iron Lung I'll totally give you a bunch of whatever to set you up with a stack of fat (mostly useless) cash. :3:

I made it a point to find ways to quickly earn units afterwards (re: Chlorine expansion) to get back over the 250million they gave me though. It's too bad you can't gift someone nanites easily. I now have a full activated indium farm for whenever I want to bother getting a few million more units whenever. It's great.

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



Last time I went to the Nexus someone gave me 10 Star Bulbs.

John F Bennett
Jan 30, 2013

I always wear my wedding ring. It's my trademark.

Is that why I sometimes see people just sitting on the ground on a specific spot in the Nexus? Is there a beggar's corner?

Poniard
Apr 3, 2011



if im passing through the anomaly to go somewhere to sell activated indium i usually drop a stack on someone

Iron Lung
Jul 24, 2007
Life.Iron Lung. Death.

DelphiAegis posted:

I had the same thing happen, someone in the anomaly just said "Hey who needs money" and then gave me 5 stasis devices. If I see you around Iron Lung I'll totally give you a bunch of whatever to set you up with a stack of fat (mostly useless) cash. :3:

I made it a point to find ways to quickly earn units afterwards (re: Chlorine expansion) to get back over the 250million they gave me though. It's too bad you can't gift someone nanites easily. I now have a full activated indium farm for whenever I want to bother getting a few million more units whenever. It's great.

haha hell yeah. i actually have no idea how multiplayer works, or how to play with other people besides the randoms on the Anamoly. do we have to be steam friends or something? i am bad at games. I've not run into a unit issue yet, just an inventory space issue and nanite issue, but otherwise i just sell basically everything. I think I'm pretty early still, I just started the Apollo questline and have been dicking around on the side as well. Although now I'm reading about chlorine expansion and I have my home base set up next to the ocean filled with salt + chlorine yielding plants, and just built an oxygen generator thing...

Capn Jobe
Jan 18, 2003

That's right. Here it is. But it's like you always have compared the sword, the making of the sword, with the making of the character. Cuz the stronger, the stronger it will get, right, the stronger the steel will get, with all that, and the same as with the character.
Soiled Meat
I picked up this game back in like January, played a bunch for a couple days and got tired of it; I think I just got impatient. I got back into it a couple weeks ago with a new save and am having a ball; have a decent base built and am starting a circuit board farm (good lord it takes a while to get started, having to replant everything I grow). I do have a couple questions though:

How the hell do you find supply frigates to hire? I've probably looked at over a hundred frigates, and have only found one supply ship. I find every other type in pretty much every system, but am getting pretty tired of this. Something I'm surprised that I couldn't find online was like a silhouette guide for the types of frigates; is there such a thing? That would help, but is there some trick to finding supply frigates that I'm missing? Should I be looking in different colored systems?

And, on a related note (partially because the lack of supply frigates), what is the best way to get dihydrogen? Some of the advice I've seen in this thread is to just buy the jelly, but I very rarely see it for sale, and it's a better use of time to just go out in the Colossus and find deposits. The Colossus is fun as hell, btw. I love being a spacefaring van guy, just driving that thing along for a few minutes and hoovering up everything in sight with the upgraded mining beam. I only wish I could airbrush a wizard on the side and maybe accessorize with some truck lady mudflaps. Spending 5-10 minutes doing that gets me all of the common materials I need. But alas, that'll get boring.

TracerM17
Mar 1, 2012
Nap Ghost

Capn Jobe posted:

And, on a related note (partially because the lack of supply frigates), what is the best way to get dihydrogen? Some of the advice I've seen in this thread is to just buy the jelly, but I very rarely see it for sale, and it's a better use of time to just go out in the Colossus and find deposits. The Colossus is fun as hell, btw. I love being a spacefaring van guy, just driving that thing along for a few minutes and hoovering up everything in sight with the upgraded mining beam. I only wish I could airbrush a wizard on the side and maybe accessorize with some truck lady mudflaps. Spending 5-10 minutes doing that gets me all of the common materials I need. But alas, that'll get boring.

I put down like 50 of the green storage containers in my freighter and just harvested it every time I logged in (or every new game load). You will get 10-12 jelly's that you can refine and a bunch of garbage you can sell too. You'll notice the storage containers will give you the same things every time until you move the freighter. So you can cheese it by finding a storage container with jelly in it and continually setting it down, pulling out the jelly, delete it, set it back down again and pull out the jelly again. I never went that far, but it was a lot easier than shooting rocks.

TracerM17 fucked around with this message at 18:41 on Dec 3, 2020

StarkRavingMad
Sep 27, 2001


Yams Fan

Capn Jobe posted:

How the hell do you find supply frigates to hire? I've probably looked at over a hundred frigates, and have only found one supply ship. I find every other type in pretty much every system, but am getting pretty tired of this. Something I'm surprised that I couldn't find online was like a silhouette guide for the types of frigates; is there such a thing? That would help, but is there some trick to finding supply frigates that I'm missing? Should I be looking in different colored systems?

I asked this earlier in the thread and got this response which was helpful to me:

Snack Bitch posted:

Of course, so from my experience the type of frigate that spawns is determined by the system. Some systems will only spawn two or three types, such as mining and combat. So look for a system that spawns big fleets and the supply frigates will have rows of sphere shaped storage pods. You want to buy the one that use 2 fuel per 250 light years. The base stats are not as important as fuel usage in the long run. Supply frigates can get -9, -6, and -3 fuel per mission plus 1-3% less mission time. So with max upgrades, I can get every mission below 24 hrs so the fleet is ready to go as soon as new missions are generated.

If it matters to you the color scheme for frigates is determined by the system, so if you want a color coordinated fleet, buy all of them from the same system.

Basically look for rows of sphere-shaped storage pods, and if you see two or three other types in the system already you can stop looking. They seem kind of rare to me.

DelphiAegis
Jun 21, 2010
Dihydrogen is simple since it takes 40 Dihydrogen to make 1 jelly, but putting 1 jelly into the refiner gives 50 Dihydrogen back.

Some cycles with a medium/large refiner will get you all the Dihydrogen you ever need.

Macichne Leainig
Jul 26, 2012

by VG

DelphiAegis posted:

Dihydrogen is simple since it takes 40 Dihydrogen to make 1 jelly, but putting 1 jelly into the refiner gives 50 Dihydrogen back.

Some cycles with a medium/large refiner will get you all the Dihydrogen you ever need.

drat, how have I never noticed this? I always run out of spare launch fuel and spare dihydrogen at the worst times.

Nullsmack
Dec 7, 2001
Digital apocalypse
It takes a long time to use the refiner to make the jelly though. I just craft that in my inventory and then use my personal refiner to break it apart.

Thundarr
Dec 24, 2002


Market terminals on a planet also often sell jelly, so be sure to add one to any bases you build, then check them daily. 70 jellies from one terminal refines into a decent amount of dihydrogen.

DelphiAegis
Jun 21, 2010

Nullsmack posted:

It takes a long time to use the refiner to make the jelly though. I just craft that in my inventory and then use my personal refiner to break it apart.

Oh, if you want max efficiency you can refine 30 Dihydrogen to 1 jelly and refine that to 50 back, but the 40/50 return is just by hand-making it, yeah. The refine option is there in case you want to shove a stack in and go do something else for a while.
The time difference is moot though since I think 10 mins of doing this net me 10k Dihydrogen by hand making which is basically instant.

moroboshi
Dec 11, 2000

Thundarr posted:

Market terminals on a planet also often sell jelly, so be sure to add one to any bases you build, then check them daily. 70 jellies from one terminal refines into a decent amount of dihydrogen.

Yeah once money is no issue for you just buy out all the dihydrogen jelly from a terminal and break it down. I used to just check at the space station or terminal on my freighter in every new system and buy it when I saw it.

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."

DelphiAegis posted:

Oh, if you want max efficiency you can refine 30 Dihydrogen to 1 jelly and refine that to 50 back, but the 40/50 return is just by hand-making it, yeah.

Artisanal homemade dihydrogen jelly bought at the farmers market.

Macichne Leainig
Jul 26, 2012

by VG

The_Doctor posted:

Artisanal homemade dihydrogen jelly bought at the farmers market.

Only the best for my starship. :colbert:

Helith
Nov 5, 2009

Basket of Adorables


The pilots who come into a space station are the best bet for dihydrogen jelly. Not all of them will have it but you'll find one who does quickly enough. They also sell tritium, so they service all your fueling needs.

Kadath
Aug 17, 2004

Put Your 'Lectric Eye On Me, Babe
Grimey Drawer
Buying di hydrogen jelly and refining it is definitely the best way to get it (though it does take up a dumb number of slots since it doesnt stack very high). I just wish you could buy dihydrogen or even just frigate fuel. Its annoying to have essentially unlimited money but still having to make your own frigate fuel. I ranked 30 frigates from mostly C class to all S class, so this was a very real annoyance for me as a space pirate admiral.

Also, make sure to have at least 6 or 7 support ships and use one on every expedition it helps with fuel costs immensely.

Snack Bitch
May 15, 2008

Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!
It’s more work at first finding 25 supply frigates but once they get leveled, you will never need to make frigate fuel. The high level frigates still generate fuel on the shorter missions so I’ve been giving the excess to a friend that went with the usual mixture of specialists.

CaptainViolence
Apr 19, 2006

I'M GONNA GET YOU DUCK

you can also refine dihydrogen from tritium. i usually have a couple stacks of tritium on my ship from just taking out a few asteroids whenever i land in a field, so i pop it into my backpack whenever i need. the ratio is like 5:1 so not great, but i'm so rarely huring for tritium that it's almost never an issue

Capn Jobe
Jan 18, 2003

That's right. Here it is. But it's like you always have compared the sword, the making of the sword, with the making of the character. Cuz the stronger, the stronger it will get, right, the stronger the steel will get, with all that, and the same as with the character.
Soiled Meat

StarkRavingMad posted:

I asked this earlier in the thread and got this response which was helpful to me:


Basically look for rows of sphere-shaped storage pods, and if you see two or three other types in the system already you can stop looking. They seem kind of rare to me.

Super good to know; thanks. Glad to know that it depends on the system. I've mostly been looking in the same system as my main base, which would explain why they never seem to appear.

Regarding dihydrogen, I've built my base next to a trading post, so I was mostly using that terminal. Turns out it only rarely had jelly for purchase. Between my own newly-installed terminal in my base, and stations, I should be okay. I'm also super proud of myself for starting on my first farm (Oxygen, that was closest). I was about to go to bed, so I built just one extractor, on a C class deposit, but even that fills up the depot in about 6 hours. It's crazy how much these deposits can pump out.

DelphiAegis
Jun 21, 2010
It'll totally blow your mind when I tell you I have an activated indium farm that spits out 80k indium in 8 hours. Stacking extractors for fun and profit!

hawowanlawow
Jul 27, 2009

Just started playing this game and I'm enjoying it a lot so far, starting to staff my first real base in the main storyline.

Am I missing something or is there no star system map? I know there are more planets in my system, but I don't know where to point.

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal

hawowanlawow posted:

Just started playing this game and I'm enjoying it a lot so far, starting to staff my first real base in the main storyline.

Am I missing something or is there no star system map? I know there are more planets in my system, but I don't know where to point.

You can see all the planets in a system on the discovery screen, and they show up on radar but it can be hard to read

hawowanlawow
Jul 27, 2009

haveblue posted:

You can see all the planets in a system on the discovery screen, and they show up on radar but it can be hard to read

Oh wow, I was confused when you said radar for a minute. I instantly switched to third person ship view and never went back.

moroboshi
Dec 11, 2000

hawowanlawow posted:

Just started playing this game and I'm enjoying it a lot so far, starting to staff my first real base in the main storyline.

Am I missing something or is there no star system map? I know there are more planets in my system, but I don't know where to point.

You kind of have to get used to reading the ship radar. Took a little adjustment for me.

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marktheando
Nov 4, 2006

On the subject of the radar, I did a shitload of black hole jumping last night, because I'm an idiot who wants to get to the next galaxy the old fashioned way rather than just using a portal.

Why the hell do black holes not show up on your radar? So much time spent spinning around trying to find the things.

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