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sean10mm posted:It makes Minesweeper look AMAZING. *Minesweeper RTX. Totally worth the $30 update.
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Allright, the jank-end build is finished This is meant as a 6 to 8 year future-proof build that is upgradeable for when i get more mullah and prices drop What country are you in? Brazil What are you using the system for? Development/gaming What's your budget? Hard to pin in dollars, the exchange rate is fluctuating too much, but about $1.500 If you’re doing professional work, what software do you need to use? IDE, multiple VMs/Emulators, a thousand tabs on stack overflow If you're gaming, what is your monitor resolution / refresh rate? HQ 31GHQ-LED 31.5" 1080p 165hz PCPartPicker Part List CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard ($189.00 @ B&H) Memory: GeIL EVO SPEAR Phantom Gaming 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3000 CL16 Memory Storage: Western Digital Blue SN550 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($53.99 @ Western Digital) Storage: ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($119.99 @ Amazon) Video Card: PowerColor Radeon RX 5500 XT 4 GB Video Card Power Supply: Cooler Master 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply Total: $362.98 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-12-09 11:11 EST-0500 Some questions for the thread, basically a future-proofing sanity check. 1. I work with multiple VMs and mobile device emulators hence the large amount of ram. Got 3000mhz because it was on sale and i figured stuff like native 4400mhz ddr4, which is the max for this board, will become cheaper in the future. Is trying to overclock to 3200 or 3600 worth it? 2. The GPU plan is getting something better to run windows as a kvm with passthrough in a second GPU, for now i'll be dual booting linux and windows. In a longer term perspective is it better to wait for the next gpu generation or get something like a 3070 when prices go down? bagual fucked around with this message at 17:45 on Dec 9, 2020 |
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Farecoal posted:True, but what about CPUs? Is it just the supply chains and it being the holidays? Intel CPUs have had varying degrees of supply issues since at least late 2018 or so, at least on the enterprise side. This is likely due in part to how they could not successfully ramp their 10nm process to replace 14nm capacity, and in part to the fact that Intel had to split their silicon wafers into bigger (and therefore fewer) 14nm chips to fight the multicore war against AMD. Meanwhile, TSMC's 7nm process is booked full by various customers right now and whatever share of the silicon wafer starts AMD has managed to purchase on that process is being split between their CPUs, GPUs, Xbox chips and Playstation chips. If demand would start to normalize early next year, that could help a bit, but a lot of it is simply that there is not enough manufacturing capacity and that new manufacturing lines/plants take a lot of money and time to set up in this industry.
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Selling an unopened 10700KF over in SA Mart if anyone is interested - https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3950845&pagenumber=1&perpage=40
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bagual posted:Allright, the jank-end build is finished Honestly the TUF B550 is just as good for 99% of users and has BIOS flashback that will let you update the BIOS if the board ships with an old one that doesn't support the 5600X. I got the Aorus Pro B550 and it's really good too but costs a bit more IIRC. That SSD mix is kind of odd TBH, just get a big fuckoff 2 TB SSD instead of a 500 and a 1000 separately. Finding video cards in stock at the moment is just a nightmare, but for 1080p165 I'd want like an RTX 3060Ti or 3070 eventually I think.
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sean10mm posted:Honestly the TUF B550 is just as good for 99% of users and has BIOS flashback that will let you update the BIOS if the board ships with an old one that doesn't support the 5600X. I got the Aorus Pro B550 and it's really good too but costs a bit more IIRC. Already got the x570, I was considering the B550, however fun fact ASUS manufactures the TUF Gaming X570-PLUS/BR variant in one of Brazil's tax free "industrial incentive" zones so i got it at basically the same price point an imported B550 would have cost me. The 512GB SSD is actually a bargain bin Hikvision E100N i got in a deal a while back, which is eventually going to a SATA adapter when i'm able to get a pcie-4 m2 for cheaper, i'm also salvaging a 1tb hdd from the old pc so not really worried for now. my only misgiving about the 3070 is in 2 to 4 years eventually i'll get a 4k monitor, i wonder if the cheapo next gen GPU will have better support for it out of the box because i wanna space those two upgrades a bit
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If I have the serial number for my copy of Windows 10, can I just install Windows 10 to a brand new drive and reuse the serial number? I got a SSD, and the cables to add it won't arrive for a few days, so I was thinking about doing a fresh install.
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SpaceSDoorGunner posted:There’s only space for one, I guess I’ll move the one closer to the front. Congrats on your build!
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Thom ZombieForm posted:Thanks for all the help with the build goons, the new computer has been great so far, with one observance: after some time in-game, some fan/s start short bursty revs (sounds like an engine being revved aggressively by vin diesel) It sounds like you're exceeding some temperature threshold, so the fans speed up to drive temps down. My mobo will spin all fans at 100% if the cpu exceeds 86.1°C regardless of whatever fan curve is set in BIOS. Have you mucked about with fan curves in BIOS?
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So I'm going to abandon the AMD hardware route for the kids pc's and go with an intel i3-10100 based build instead. I don't know anything about Intel motherboard chipsets, but I'm thinking a B460 board is the sweet spot? No AAA gaming or overclocking, just looking or a solid 100 dollar or less board. Intel boards seem a little more expensive than AMD for some reason. I'd happily accept any recommendations I'd prefer 4 ram slots if possible, but don't care about onboard wifi.
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Bioshuffle posted:If I have the serial number for my copy of Windows 10, can I just install Windows 10 to a brand new drive and reuse the serial number? I got a SSD, and the cables to add it won't arrive for a few days, so I was thinking about doing a fresh install.
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Jesus tapdancing christ. Got the system going, tested a bunch of stuff, tried to play Control and it kept crashing. Now my system won't turn on. No diagnostic lights or anything. I'm hoping it's just a bum PSU but I have no way of testing each component. My old stuff is far too old to help check.
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Bioshuffle posted:If I have the serial number for my copy of Windows 10, can I just install Windows 10 to a brand new drive and reuse the serial number? I got a SSD, and the cables to add it won't arrive for a few days, so I was thinking about doing a fresh install. FlamingLiberal posted:If you have an active Windows PC you can create a boot disk from that computer You can also create a USB boot drive with this Microsoft utility, use that to do a clean windows install, and just skip activation. You won't be able to change any of the desktop backgrounds, but you don't really lose any functionality. You can go back and reactivate with your old code or get a fresh one from SA Mart for $15 at any point in the future!  Inzombiac posted:Jesus tapdancing christ. This is the second time you've had power problems, right? What is your PSU?
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skipdogg posted:So I'm going to abandon the AMD hardware route for the kids pc's and go with an intel i3-10100 based build instead. I think this’d work fine: PCPartPicker Part List CPU: Intel Core i3-10100 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor ($105.44 @ Amazon) Motherboard: MSI MAG B460M BAZOOKA Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard ($98.98 @ Newegg) Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-2666 CL15 Memory ($38.99 @ Newegg) Storage: ADATA SU635 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($27.99 @ Amazon) Case: Cooler Master MasterBox Q300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($44.99 @ Amazon) Power Supply: Thermaltake Smart Series 430 W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply ($38.98 @ Newegg) Total: $355.37 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-12-09 14:57 EST-0500 Going for a 2-slot motherboard would save you ~$20, but having some options for RAM upgrades isn’t a bad choice. B460 makes sense to me to pair with a 10100, all you’re really missing out on is faster memory speeds, but that really shouldn’t be cause for concern with the kind of system you’re building here.
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AzureSkys posted:This waiting for stock drops week after week, getting there immediately, going through checkout only to have it fail when you click the final purchase confirmation isn't good for mental health. Set up one-touch payments with Apple Pay with mobile apps if you can. That’s how I snagged my 3070 day after launch via the Newegg app
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vanilla slimfast posted:Set up one-touch payments with Apple Pay with mobile apps if you can. That’s how I snagged my 3070 day after launch via the Newegg app Also, don't rely on Discord notifications. By the time you see it, it is usually too late. I'd find the product you want and refresh until it pops up. But when you do see a notification for a product, make sure you keep refreshing and checking on it for like 5 minutes after it's posted. Sometimes distributors are releasing products a few at a time every 15-20 seconds. That's what happened this morning with a 3080 on Amazon. Sometimes an order will get canceled after the notification and it will be readded, so you sometimes find stuff that way.
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On MSI boards, is the "Creator Genie" the new name for the "OC Genie"? I don't do any overclocking and I'm not interested in it. Under Creator Genie in BIOS, I can select CPU and/or one of two XMP profiles. The thing is I have no idea what those do and the documentation doesn't explain.
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OKAY, with the installation of my 3060 ti (thanks to randoark for trading me his for my too-big MSI 3070), I won't have to open my PC up again for the next 4 years, or until I want to put more RAM in or to get a wifi 6 card. The only thing I have left to do is hook up my 1440p monitor (coming tomorrow), drill more holes in my desk to route all of the cables through, and figure out how to shut off or change this annoying blue light on the GPU.  Final PCpartpicker list: PCPartPicker Part List CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($232.98 @ Newegg) CPU Cooler: be quiet! Pure Rock 2 Black CPU Cooler Motherboard: MSI B450 Gaming Plus MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard ($104.99 @ Newegg) Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($70.98 @ Amazon) Storage: Western Digital Blue 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($53.99 @ Amazon) Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB EAGLE OC Video Card Case: NZXT H510 ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.98 @ Amazon) Power Supply: Corsair TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ Newegg) Wireless Network Adapter: Asus PCE-AC55BT B1 PCIe x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter ($34.99 @ B&H) Case Fan: Noctua P14s redux-1200 PWM 64.92 CFM 140 mm Fan ($42.22 @ Amazon) (WTF??? I paid $14 for this) Total: $710.12 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-12-09 18:47 EST-0500 MSRP for everything, excluding Windows license: ~$1,143 What I actually paid: About $1,300, extra $150 is from buying a more expensive card and gifting it to a forums member  This was supposed to have been a $500 budget build for BG3... change my name fucked around with this message at 00:59 on Dec 10, 2020 |
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The dimensions of your case are more important than the mobo size to know what would fit.
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ShowTime posted:Also, don't rely on Discord notifications. By the time you see it, it is usually too late. I'd find the product you want and refresh until it pops up. But when you do see a notification for a product, make sure you keep refreshing and checking on it for like 5 minutes after it's posted. Sometimes distributors are releasing products a few at a time every 15-20 seconds. That's what happened this morning with a 3080 on Amazon. Sometimes an order will get canceled after the notification and it will be readded, so you sometimes find stuff that way. This is genuinely bad advice. You’re saying to spend hours a day f5ing? That’s insane. Nearly everyone that’s gotten a card has used those discords to get it, including myself about 2 weeks after 3080 launch. Just set up payment details and shipping poo poo on every site (for nvidia you have to add something to the cart and act like you’re buying, then after it’s entered don’t confirm on the next page and remove it from your cart). Make sure Apple Pay is ready to go and install Newegg and other apps. Inzombiac posted:On MSI boards, is the "Creator Genie" the new name for the "OC Genie"? You want to XMP your ram. It’ll run at 2333mhz until you do. Look at the rating for your ram and set XMP to that. Google “creator genie XMP settings” or your board model and you’ll find it. change my name posted:OKAY, with the installation of my 3060 ti (thanks to randoark for trading me his for my too-big MSI 3070), I won't have to open my PC up again for the next 4 years, or until I want to put more RAM in or to get a wifi 6 card. The only thing I have left to do is hook up my 1440p monitor (coming tomorrow), drill more holes in my desk to route all of the cables through, and figure out how to shut off or change this annoying blue light on the GPU. Disassemble the card and unplug the led header 
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change my name posted:Case Fan: Noctua P14s redux-1200 PWM 64.92 CFM 140 mm Fan ($42.22 @ Amazon) (WTF??? I paid $14 for this)
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Kingnothing posted:Disassemble the card and unplug the led header
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nitsuga posted:Or see if Gigabyte has an app to do that. My MSI card does at least. Before you tear apart the card. Oh there’s an app for controlling the light. There’s a temperature monitoring mode but you can’t moderate the brightness at all (weird oversight), so off it goes
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Kingnothing posted:This is genuinely bad advice. You’re saying to spend hours a day f5ing? That’s insane. Just speaking as to what i've had success with and people generally recommend in Discord. You don't have to spend hours, but you basically use those notifications to let you know what to check. I've gotten two items by going back to old notifications and checking on them. Those notifications haven't gotten me an item when I immediately click on them, as in watching something, see it pop up and immediately visit the link. It's either gone or is bought within 3 seconds of me getting to it. The other item i've gotten has been because I did the second thing I recommended, which was to keep refreshing after the notification popped, was bought, but the distributor added more after 15-20 seconds. You can't rely on those notifications always and if you want to have the best chance you gotta check on your own, that's the advice i'm giving. Not to f5 all day. Apple pay is the best thing to setup to help. People say use the Newegg app too, but I haven't tried. Amazon is where i've had some luck, but they have super delayed shipping times.
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Inzombiac posted:https://www.amazon.com/dp/B083RR7GBT/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fabc_JLs0FbRSA7P8F?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1 I don't see that power supply on the often cited: https://linustechtips.com/topic/1116640-psucultists-psu-tier-list/ Doesn't mean it is bad, but it could be the problem or a problem later on.
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So amazon just listed the 5800x for pre-order and I got in there as soon as the bots alerted me to it. Smacked the preorder button and it passed me to an empty cart; does that mean that it was actually already sold out, or is that some sort of bug? I managed to go back to the page a few times and the preorder sign was still up but nothing. Just part of the process?
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ShowTime posted:Should I go ahead and buy some of these for a future build? Are they that hard to find? I don't have a case picked out because I haven't been able to secure a processor and was waiting until I got both a gpu and a processor to start assembling other parts. Those two items seem to be the hardest things to locate. I have this MB: https://www.newegg.com/msi-mag-x570-tomahawk-wifi/p/N82E16813144310?Item=N82E16813144310 Ehh, if you don't already have a build planned that requires and fits 120x25mm case fans, there's no real point in stressing yourself out trying to get these now. I need one for a near-future replacement of my SFF case with another, slightly less small form factor case. I'll be replacing my NF-A12x15 currently on my CPU cooler with this one, as there will be much more clearance in the new case
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HappyCapybaraFamily posted:Ehh, if you don't already have a build planned that requires and fits 120x25mm case fans, there's no real point in stressing yourself out trying to get these now. I need one for a near-future replacement of my SFF case with another, slightly less small form factor case. I'll be replacing my NF-A12x15 currently on my CPU cooler with this one, as there will be much more clearance in the new case Yea, I was just curious since PC parts right now are super hard to find. I've been picking up some parts that are sought after just in case I need it. I figured I might do the same with those fans. I'd rather get it, not need it and return it then find out I need it and not be able to find it. Now that I have a motherboard and have settled on the GPU and Processor I want (still need to find the processor) I should really go ahead and get a case and a power supply.
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Can't believe I'm posting this as if it's a hot item but these should be step-up eligible & as far as I know there are no step up eligible cards in stock anywhere. https://www.officedepot.com/a/products/6097242/EVGA-GeForce-GTX-1660-Graphic-Card/ https://www.officedepot.com/a/products/6891693/EVGA-GeForce-GT-1030-Graphic-Card/
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Wrr posted:So amazon just listed the 5800x for pre-order and I got in there as soon as the bots alerted me to it. Smacked the preorder button and it passed me to an empty cart; does that mean that it was actually already sold out, or is that some sort of bug? I managed to go back to the page a few times and the preorder sign was still up but nothing. Just part of the process? Yeah, it happens a lot. Was able to order a 5800x in November relatively easy, but the 5600x I ordered recently took me about two weeks of trying. Assuming now that the 5800x is in a similar scarcity now. E: I have used the following to get a 3060 ti and two Ryzen cpus: https://www.hotstock.io/us (tracks one thing for free or 10 things for $5 a month) https://www.nowinstock.net/ (use their discord or telegram links) https://discord.gg/m2SHKYC5Gs (ATR discord) https://discord.gg/ErhWbMgc37 (Stockdrops discord) Then follow on twitter @newegg @botrtx @wario64 @videogamedeals and if looking for a ps5 @ps5stockalerts Then turn all the notifications on and annoy whoever lives with you! The Gardenator fucked around with this message at 07:58 on Dec 10, 2020 |
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The Gardenator posted:Yeah, it happens a lot. Was able to order a 5800x in November relatively easy, but the 5600x I ordered recently took me about two weeks of trying. Assuming now that the 5800x is in a similar scarcity now. I've been keeping an eye on the ATR stock notifications while hunting for a 3070 (which I finally managed to order the other day). The 5900x and 5950x seem have the least frequent drops, followed by the 5600x. The 5800x actually seems to be getting the most frequent stock notifications, and is incidentally also the only one that seems to ever have any active third party listings on amazon. Kinda getting the feeling that AMD's just pumping out the 5800x in (relative) quantity to make that sweet margin while they can.
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Thanks to thread for helping me get sorted out. I was doing some benchmarking and saw that 3Dmark kept some old results which were neat for comparison sake, though not sure how relevant they are nowadays (Firestrike). The magnitude of difference is what's comical. First build: 2500k with a GTX 460 GPU (2011) to a 750ti (2015?) only to be able to run 3 monitors. Then bought a 1070 and overclocked the 2500k around the same time (2016). Now: 5800x and 3080. 
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bus hustler posted:Can't believe I'm posting this as if it's a hot item but these should be step-up eligible & as far as I know there are no step up eligible cards in stock anywhere. I believe Office Depot isn't an authorized EVGA reseller that is eligible for step up.
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My power supply is still functional!  Thank you everyone for the help! I let it dry out for 48 hours and tested it with a paperclip. I'm so relieved everything works. I appreciate this thread and this community. When searching the internet for a solution, there was all sorts of terrible advice, like to blow a hot hair dryer for 10 minutes, or even to put a wet PC part in the oven on the lowest setting.
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