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Freakazoid_ posted:kapo is an extremely esoteric word that I don't expect many to know exists, whereas capo has been said in numerous films, television and video games featuring the italian mob for several decades. WHY THE gently caress IS OPENLY SOLICITING FOR DONATIONS TO YOUR CHARITY LIKE BEING A MOB BOSS?! Not a single one of you fucks has explained this, including OP. It's starting to sound defensive at this point.
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It turns out Zubrin owes the mob a substantial sum because he promised a Las Vegas on Mars with blackjack and hookers E: although in that case I probably wouldn't call him a capo, more just a schmuck America Inc. fucked around with this message at 19:53 on Dec 11, 2020 |
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Absurd Alhazred posted:WHY THE gently caress IS OPENLY SOLICITING FOR DONATIONS TO YOUR CHARITY LIKE BEING A MOB BOSS?! Not a single one of you fucks has explained this, including OP. It's starting to sound defensive at this point. Capo is an officer position in the mob. From googling the Mars Society, Zubrin is an officer on their board. The poster has a negative view of the Mars Society and instead of referring to him as President of the Mars Society, he referred to him by the mob title.
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That still leaves an obvious confusion of scale - why such a negative view of the Mars Society? Italian mafia is a pretty harsh comparison. I mean yes it's obviously a stupid society and I don't think you should give your money to them, but to the best of my knowledge they are less directly involved in murdering people than most of the thread regulars. If they have been Ubering it up, though, that would be additional good thread content that we should hear about.
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We allowed these companies to devastate the taxi industry for this
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Mister Facetious posted:I can't decide if my favorite is the Juicero, or the prefab plastic "root cellar". I missed out on the root cellar. Deets?
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Freakazoid_ posted:kapo is an extremely esoteric word that I don't expect many to know exists, whereas capo has been said in numerous films, television and video games featuring the italian mob for several decades. Only tangentially related, but everyone should read The Drowned and the Saved by Primo Levi. Extremely powerful (and depressing, it's about being in one of the concentration camps), and there is lots of discussion about the kapos.
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Arsenic Lupin posted:I missed out on the root cellar. Deets? i assume this thing? https://www.weltevree.eu/nl/ventures/groundfridge/ it's $10k only available in the netherlands. tbqh i don't think it's that bad but 99% of people who'd buy this wouldn't have enough garden production to use it and would probably use it for wine or something dumb
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Absurd Alhazred posted:WHY THE gently caress IS OPENLY SOLICITING FOR DONATIONS TO YOUR CHARITY LIKE BEING A MOB BOSS?! Not a single one of you fucks has explained this, including OP. It's starting to sound defensive at this point. Since this is apparently troubling you deeply, I apologize for my split-second decision to derisively refer to the head of an organization as a capo - an Italian mafia slang term that also literally means head - in order to exaggerate for effect, mistakenly leaving the impression that I consider their activities to be genuine organized crime rather than just mildly sociopathic. Irony.or.Death posted:That still leaves an obvious confusion of scale - why such a negative view of the Mars Society? Italian mafia is a pretty harsh comparison. I mean yes it's obviously a stupid society and I don't think you should give your money to them, but to the best of my knowledge they are less directly involved in murdering people than most of the thread regulars. If they have been Ubering it up, though, that would be additional good thread content that we should hear about. Mars colonization would almost certainly get a lot of people killed! My main objection is not with extra-terrestrial resource extraction itself, but that even with the most optimistic projections, Mars would be an absolutely miserable place for humans to live, and so I see charitable donation to their cause as akin to tossing coins to the East India Company Mark II. I also apologize for not elaborating on this further but it has been discussed ad nauseam in the space thread, which is the best place to revisit the debate if anyone is so inclined.
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I feel like any technology meant to create habitability on Mars would be more useful to help us live on this planet more sustainably and comfortably (thinking especially of the "less than $5.50 a day" half of humanity), and much sooner used for that, if ever. But try raising venture capital for that idea.
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Sodomy Hussein posted:I feel like any technology meant to create habitability on Mars would be more useful to help us live on this planet more sustainably and comfortably (thinking especially of the "less than $5.50 a day" half of humanity), and much sooner used for that, if ever. But try raising venture capital for that idea. Yeah, even the most inhospitable place on Earth is going to be easier to live on than anywhere on Mars. There would need to be a practical reason for a permanent colony, given the massive amount of resources required to get there.
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ponzicar posted:Yeah, even the most inhospitable place on Earth is going to be easier to live on than anywhere on Mars. There would need to be a practical reason for a permanent colony, given the massive amount of resources required to get there. Not having to put up with Bell, Rogers, Verizon, Comcast, or AT&T. 
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Mister Facetious posted:Not having to put up with Bell, Rogers, Verizon, Comcast, or AT&T. A place to send Elon Musk to along with any number of other rich techie people and then oh whoops we forgot what frequency y'all were on silly us must've been the cat.
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Mister Facetious posted:Not having to put up with Bell, Rogers, Verizon, Comcast, or AT&T. With 3 minute signal delays from Earth to Mars, you'd be returning to early internet dial-up speeds or worse I think VVV Yeah, now that I think about it again oops 
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adoration for none posted:With 3 minute signal delays from Earth to Mars, you'd be returning to early internet dial-up speeds or worse I think latency =/= bandwidth but yes you'd undoubtedly need local caches Assuming a magic p2p laser network, it'd just add 6 minutes to anything you'd want to download
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eXXon posted:Since this is apparently troubling you deeply, I apologize for my split-second decision to derisively refer to the head of an organization as a capo - an Italian mafia slang term that also literally means head - in order to exaggerate for effect, mistakenly leaving the impression that I consider their activities to be genuine organized crime rather than just mildly sociopathic. This time there wouldn't even be the moral hazard of existing residents.
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eXXon posted:Since this is apparently troubling you deeply, I apologize for my split-second decision to derisively refer to the head of an organization as a capo - an Italian mafia slang term that also literally means head - in order to exaggerate for effect, mistakenly leaving the impression that I consider their activities to be genuine organized crime rather than just mildly sociopathic. I hope we've all learned a valuable lesson about how choosing to "exaggerate for effect" tends to make an absolute loving mess of a discussion, as people try to puzzle out why you're saying things that are both false and entirely unreasonable just for the sake of dumb shock value.
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Watermelon Daiquiri posted:latency =/= bandwidth but yes you'd undoubtedly need local caches It’s only six minutes at closest approach. When Mars and Earth are on opposite sides of the Sun, light has a forty-eight minute round trip.
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I know better than to read the comments, but I guess I hate myself. There's so much "Well, actually..." there along with a few real gems swearing that it's so easy to find a $15+ an hour job where you earn a few raises a year. It's nice to have some numbers basically backing up the point that ridesharing is just a way to cash out the mileage of your vehicle for whatever that ends up being worth.
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I am absolutely floored by the revelation that our corporate overlords have control over the media we consume.
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Baronash posted:I am absolutely floored by the revelation that our corporate overlords have control over the media we consume. "You furnish the pictures and I'll furnish the war." - Dick Cheney
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Mister Facetious posted:"You furnish the pictures and I'll furnish the war." It's easy to see that coming from Cheney, but that quote is attributed to Hearst. Unless you were trying to make a bit
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Yeah, I was wondering why it logged me out of youtube on Android TV a couple minutes ago. Android Police already has a small bulletin on it, no reason why. Supposedly the authentication system; commenters are saying the services work in incognito mode if you don't log in. Mister Facetious fucked around with this message at 13:22 on Dec 14, 2020 |
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Deleting because my position comes off as defending a company I’m not trying to defend, but rather how sexuality is so poorly understood in western culture /people in this thread and my point is that clear regulation/ for workers in all aspects of that field/branches of that field of work, and would do a better job of protecting victims of exploitation.
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LionArcher posted:Anybody talking about the garbage around Pornhub because of that lovely piece written a few weeks ago about think of the children? The major cards are pulling out because Mind Geek has apparently done jack and poo poo to keep revenge porn and other non-consensual recordings off of their services. Not to mention unverified and underage stuff. Do you have more info that paints Mind Geek in a better light?
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LionArcher posted:First major credit card company’s pulled them from being used, and today they have purged something like half their videos that aren’t verified. Any chance some of the performers sue the times and the reporter? Or would they clutch pearls and say 1st amendment! mindgeek, owner of pornhub, is a canadian company, so... LionArcher posted:Anybody talking about the garbage around Pornhub because of that lovely piece written a few weeks ago about think of the children? i urge you to reconsider your stance here, pornhub specifically has had problems around the user-submitted video thing being a vehicle to distribute non-consensual aka literally rape porn for years. pornhub has demonstrated that they do not have policies in place to prevent their platform from being used as a method of distributing illegal and harmful content. at best they only remove this content, sometimes actual child porn, once called out by journalists. this is not an acceptable business practice at the very least, try not to use the "think of the children!" cliche framing when part of the problem is in fact no poo poo child sexual exploitation Mr. Fall Down Terror fucked around with this message at 21:12 on Dec 14, 2020 |
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Deleting because my position comes off as defending a company I’m not trying to defend, but rather how sexuality is so poorly understood handled in western culture /people in this thread and my point is that clear regulation/ for workers in all aspects of that field/branches of that field of work, and would do a better job of protecting victims of exploitation.
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LionArcher posted:Anybody talking about the garbage around Pornhub because of that lovely piece written a few weeks ago about think of the children? sorry you have to go somewhere else for revenge porn (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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LionArcher posted:No. They pulled out because a nytimes piece that while they covered the stuff you mentioned, focused on the underage stuff because it’s the easiest pearl clutching to ever pearl clutch. facebook isn't an actual pornography site though imo i think it's pretty gross to argue "what about the sex workers? why are you so puritanical!" when trying to dismiss the claims of people who are opposing the distribution of rape, revenge, and child pornography i don't mean for this to sound insulting but you come across as a hairy-palmed creep here
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luxury handset posted:mindgeek, owner of pornhub, is a canadian company, so... Am I 100% against revenge porn and child sexual exploitation? Of course. What I’m saying is that mind geek sucks for the first one plenty and being a weird Monopoly that controls most of pornography online 100%, but the child exploitation is far worse on other platforms that will not be targeted because most of the outrage is about sex work in general. Of course they should be better at regulating (or being regulated.)
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Patreon and Onlyfans are the best things to happen to sex workers recently.
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LionArcher posted:Am I 100% against revenge porn and child sexual exploitation? Of course. What I’m saying is that mind geek sucks for the first one plenty and being a weird Monopoly that controls most of pornography online 100%, but the child exploitation is far worse on other platforms that will not be targeted because most of the outrage is about sex work in general. Of course they should be better at regulating (or being regulated.) facebook actively culls this content from their site though through a prefiltering process. their problem is not the same as pornhub's problem
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luxury handset posted:facebook isn't an actual pornography site though I’m opposed to all of those things as well. And you personally taking a swing at me turning this into it being about me being a creep is just boring and lame. I’m personally friends with people who have worked in the industry and plenty of them are going to be hurt by these broad arguments instead of specific cases. LionArcher fucked around with this message at 21:23 on Dec 14, 2020 |
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Deleting because my position comes off as defending a company I’m not trying to defend, but rather how sexuality is so poorly understood in western culture /people in this thread and my point is that clear regulation/ for workers in all aspects of that field/branches of that field of work, and would do a better job of protecting victims of exploitation.
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it sucks for sex workers who are getting stung by the user-submitted porno site being unable to keep CSE off their platform but a website which allows for user-submitted porn absolutely has a higher duty to keep this content off their platform than what pornhub has been following. trying to equate porn sites to other social media sites is a weird comparison which effectively dismisses the CSE problem by backing up to a point of "well, why don't we just shut down the whole internet, huh?" and for real, calling people who want a crackdown on CSE and revenge porn "puritanical right wingers" really does make you sound like a creep
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LionArcher posted:I’m opposed to all of those things as well. And you personally taking a swing at me turning this into it being about me being a creep is just boring and lame. I’m personally friends with people who have worked in the industry and plenty of them are going to be hurt by these broad arguments instead of specific cases. My impression, and that's just what it is, not super into the adult video world, but my impression was that Mind Geek was pretty much single-handedly responsible for the destruction of the established adult industry. At least in the US?
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