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MrOnBicycle
Jan 18, 2008
Wait wat?
Hm, the UNI-T UT131D I bought states "This series ensures that users can work safely in CAT II 250V environment." on the website. Sold by a large chain here.
Not that it matters much as I'm not going to poke mains sockets with it. Only using it for car stuff and perhaps lower voltage electronics.

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fralbjabar
Jan 26, 2007
I am a meat popscicle.

Tomarse posted:

Look up the Fluke 15b/17b. It is a fluke but the model is made for the Chinese market and the 15b only costs around £60 NEW here in the UK (ebay/amazon and some specialist tool shops have them). I bought myself one and it is great!


One key caveat with the 15b/17b is that unlike pretty much every other meter Fluke makes these are not RMS meters, and so will read off when measuring AC voltages that aren't close enough to a clean sine wave. This won't be a problem for homeowner things and probably isn't a problem for 90% of people looking for a meter, but something to be aware of. I've got a 17b and other than that it's a great meter, as expected excellent accuracy for DC measurement too.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

fralbjabar posted:

One key caveat with the 15b/17b is that unlike pretty much every other meter Fluke makes these are not RMS meters

I knew there had to be something cutting costs on those but never did hear anyone come up with a real reason. Thank you!

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler
The Bosch "Freak" impact drill is $99 at Canadian Tire for anyone in the market for one. I just picked up two.

wesleywillis
Dec 30, 2016

SUCK A MALE CAMEL'S DICK WITH MIRACLE WHIP!!
Not sure where this is most appropriate, but I figured I'd get the right answer here.
My friend has a Kerosene heater (don't know what make/model, BTU output etc). Its not *that old* like its not 50 years old. It was bought within the last 15 years, but never used.
Anyway, she wants to do some stuff in her garage in winter and wants to run the heater to keep warm.

She says she'd keep both doors open, but I figure thats a waste of heat since it (the garage) wouldn't actually get warm.
I'm of the opinion that if she keeps the side door cracked, and the lift door open by say a foot or two from the floor, she would probably be warm, while not dying of CO poisoning.

So......... If she keeps the doors mostly closed, will she die or be ok?

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

Why are you concerned about operating a heater that is designed to be used indoors while indoors?

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
The rule of thumb is at least a square inch of opening per thousand BTU/hr

Get a carbon monoxide alarm

SpartanIvy
May 18, 2007
Hair Elf
I have a kerosene heater that's 40 years old and as long as you have a tiny bit of fresh air flow you'll be fine.

If you start getting a headache turn it off and get some fresh air. I also personally wouldn't sleep with it on.

wesleywillis
Dec 30, 2016

SUCK A MALE CAMEL'S DICK WITH MIRACLE WHIP!!

Motronic posted:

Why are you concerned about operating a heater that is designed to be used indoors while indoors?

I just want to make sure my friend doesn't die.

I'll see to it that she gets one

SpartanIvy posted:

I have a kerosene heater that's 40 years old and as long as you have a tiny bit of fresh air flow you'll be fine.

If you start getting a headache turn it off and get some fresh air. I also personally wouldn't sleep with it on.
Word.

Cannon_Fodder
Jul 17, 2007

"Hey, where did Steve go?"
Design by Kamoc

wesleywillis posted:

I just want to make sure my friend doesn't die.

I'll see to it that she gets one

Word.

Those heaters will absolutely heat a garage, with or without the door cracked.

Mr. Mambold
Feb 13, 2011

Aha. Nice post.



wesleywillis posted:

Not sure where this is most appropriate, but I figured I'd get the right answer here.
My friend has a Kerosene heater (don't know what make/model, BTU output etc). Its not *that old* like its not 50 years old. It was bought within the last 15 years, but never used.
Anyway, she wants to do some stuff in her garage in winter and wants to run the heater to keep warm.

She says she'd keep both doors open, but I figure thats a waste of heat since it (the garage) wouldn't actually get warm.
I'm of the opinion that if she keeps the side door cracked, and the lift door open by say a foot or two from the floor, she would probably be warm, while not dying of CO poisoning.

So......... If she keeps the doors mostly closed, will she die or be ok?

I had those back in the day when it was the only thing to heat a new construction that was framed and enclosed, but the builder was too cheap to hook up the heat yet. They do put out lots of heat, but the fumes will gag a loving maggot. And yeah, CO1,2 I was so glad to ditch that when propane space heaters came out.

SpartanIvy
May 18, 2007
Hair Elf

Mr. Mambold posted:

I had those back in the day when it was the only thing to heat a new construction that was framed and enclosed, but the builder was too cheap to hook up the heat yet. They do put out lots of heat, but the fumes will gag a loving maggot. And yeah, CO1,2 I was so glad to ditch that when propane space heaters came out.

Yours must have had a dirty wick or fuel. Mine only puts out fumes when it's first being lit or extinguished. While heating it's almost odor free.

Cannon_Fodder
Jul 17, 2007

"Hey, where did Steve go?"
Design by Kamoc
Carbon monoxide is odorless

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

SpartanIvy posted:

Yours must have had a dirty wick or fuel. Mine only puts out fumes when it's first being lit or extinguished. While heating it's almost odor free.

Yeah, this. Poorly maintained ones will leave a film of diesel soot all over everything (have fun watching paint slide off the walls when you try to paint over that!). Well maintained ones don't do this.

Mr. Mambold
Feb 13, 2011

Aha. Nice post.



SpartanIvy posted:

Yours must have had a dirty wick or fuel. Mine only puts out fumes when it's first being lit or extinguished. While heating it's almost odor free.


Motronic posted:

Yeah, this. Poorly maintained ones will leave a film of diesel soot all over everything (have fun watching paint slide off the walls when you try to paint over that!). Well maintained ones don't do this.

That was 40-odd years ago. They all stunk new out of the box. No soot, but half burned kerosene fumes. Maybe because it was Craftsman. :shrug:

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

Mr. Mambold posted:

That was 40-odd years ago. They all stunk new out of the box. No soot, but half burned kerosene fumes. Maybe because it was Craftsman. :shrug:

Even 30-odd years ago the Kerosun ones didn't do this. I dunno about 40.

SpartanIvy
May 18, 2007
Hair Elf

Motronic posted:

Yeah, this. Poorly maintained ones will leave a film of diesel soot all over everything (have fun watching paint slide off the walls when you try to paint over that!). Well maintained ones don't do this.

To expand on this further, the manuals explicitly state not to use siphons or tanks that have previously stored gasoline or diesel. Get a fresh plastic siphon and use new kerosene containers and you're good. If your heater has already been tainted by gas or diesel you'll need to completely empty the tank and replace the wick. Id probably give all the relevant parts a good rinse with kerosene as well to make sure all the old stuff gets flushed out.

Also when replacing a wick, after filling it, let it sit before lighting for 30 minutes or so so that the wick can get saturated. If you light it immediately your wick will just burn itself up.

E: my heater is a Sanyo that is between 30-40 years old and still runs like a top. The manual has such wonderful metric-to-standard measurements like 3/12"

SpartanIvy fucked around with this message at 17:30 on Dec 17, 2020

wesleywillis
Dec 30, 2016

SUCK A MALE CAMEL'S DICK WITH MIRACLE WHIP!!
Thanks for all the comments/anecdotes etc. I'm going to check it out this weekend and help her get it lit and all that. I'll make sure to rtfm before we get things going.

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler
I've got a 65k btu propane heater in my garage and a carbon monoxide detector. It has never tripped, but every hour or so I open a door for 30 seconds to air the place out. Also I run the heater in 10/20 shifts since it's overkill. (10 on 20 off)

SpartanIvy
May 18, 2007
Hair Elf
Ego finally released info on their zero turn riding mower and :fap:

My girlfriend continues to remind me that I live on a quarter acre lot but she's just a dream crusher :argh:

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

SpartanIvy posted:

Ego finally released info on their zero turn riding mower and :fap:

My girlfriend continues to remind me that I live on a quarter acre lot but she's just a dream crusher :argh:

From a brief look at what's out there it doesn't look very good. 42" is uhhh.....an interesting choice - that's way small for any riding mower, probably indicating power/battery issues. From what I can see of the deck attachment the deck isn't floating (which makes it a scalp-o-matic) and the general build quality looks pretty low. Stamped deck, sketchy looking height adjustment, etc.....

It's great that somebody has done this finally, but I don't think you want to be an early adopter of this particular unit.

angryrobots
Mar 31, 2005

I think 42" is the biggest size that fits through a standard single gate.

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

SpartanIvy posted:

Ego finally released info on their zero turn riding mower and :fap:

My girlfriend continues to remind me that I live on a quarter acre lot but she's just a dream crusher :argh:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhsAb5C1ryQ&t=41s

DrBouvenstein
Feb 28, 2007

I think I'm a doctor, but that doesn't make me a doctor. This fancy avatar does.

Megabook posted:

I think you are asking the wrong question. The right question is how else a log splitter could be repurposed as a sex toy? Flywheel or hydraulic, either is fine.

From a couple pages back, but this question has been answered in every possible way you can think of by a website that starts with "gently caress" and ends with "Machines.com"

JEEVES420
Feb 16, 2005

The world is a mess... and I just need to rule it

He does live in the metroplex and it has been said that show is a comedy for everyone but a documentary for Texans :clint:

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

angryrobots posted:

I think 42" is the biggest size that fits through a standard single gate.

I'm not sure what kind of fence you're talking about, but both chain link and wood/PVC premade gate options that I commonly see around here are 32, 36 and 48. You can fit a 48" deck through a 48" gate because they are measured across the gate itself, not counting the space you need on either side for hinges/swing.

angryrobots
Mar 31, 2005

42" is a common single walk though chain link gate size, here. I know when I bought my 46" Husqvarna years ago, the dealer sold a smaller mower in that size range that was marketed to lawn care guys for cutting gated back yards they would normally have to push.

Anyhow, maybe the thing is a POS but I don't think the size of it is off putting. 38"-40" cutting decks were what you got on a residential tractor not THAT long ago. :corsair:

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

angryrobots posted:

42" is a common single walk though chain link gate size, here. I know when I bought my 46" Husqvarna years ago, the dealer sold a smaller mower in that size range that was marketed to lawn care guys for cutting gated back yards they would normally have to push.

Anyhow, maybe the thing is a POS but I don't think the size of it is off putting. 38"-40" cutting decks were what you got on a residential tractor not THAT long ago. :corsair:

Eh, that's not a size I've seen here commonly, so it probably regional. Back in the day we had a 30" walk behind that was literally a professional walk behind, just with a baby deck on it for those few annoying pool enclosures with 32-36" gates. It was still a pain in the rear end.

And to be clear about the ego, we're not talking about a residential tractor. This is a zero turn mower so I'm comparing it in kind with zero turn mowers.

Mr. Mambold
Feb 13, 2011

Aha. Nice post.



Blistex posted:

I've got a 65k btu propane heater in my garage and a carbon monoxide detector. It has never tripped, but every hour or so I open a door for 30 seconds to air the place out. Also I run the heater in 10/20 shifts since it's overkill. (10 on 20 off)

I think mine's 40-50 or so, clamps on the common tank (3 gal?). When we lost power a few months back, and my generator crapped out, I fired it up a few times in the house during the night for a few minutes to bring the temp up to tolerable. Took it out to the greenhouse and the tomater plants got through it all fine, thankee.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

Mr. Mambold posted:

I think mine's 40-50 or so, clamps on the common tank (3 gal?).

20 lb (4.6 gal) if you're talking like the kind you put on a BBQ grill that you can exchange at the gas station.

wesleywillis
Dec 30, 2016

SUCK A MALE CAMEL'S DICK WITH MIRACLE WHIP!!

Megabook posted:

I think you are asking the wrong question. The right question is how else a log splitter could be repurposed as a sex toy? Flywheel or hydraulic, either is fine.
New thread title:


The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Hobbies, Crafts, & Houses > Tools: The right question is how else a log splitter could be repurposed as a sex toy?

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler

Motronic posted:

20 lb (4.6 gal) if you're talking like the kind you put on a BBQ grill that you can exchange at the gas station.

Most heaters hook onto standard BBQ tanks. Neighbors have a 250k btu one that will drain a tank in an hour if you let it.

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

Blistex posted:

Most heaters hook onto standard BBQ tanks. Neighbors have a 250k btu one that will drain a tank in an hour if you let it.

Sure, but RV tanks are 30 gal and common enough, and they have the same outside threading that would work for heaters/BBQs. I think past that (other than fork truck tanks which are totally different) you're looking at 100 lb tanks which are super obviously different and I don't think they have the external thread on them.

In any case, I have 4 of those stand up patio heaters. They take a 20 lb tank in the base. If I turn them on high they work great, but by the time you've kicked half a tank they don't flow enough gas to be on "high" anymore since they're freezing the tanks. They last a good 4-6 hours. But probably only because they are freezing the tank.

Mr. Mambold
Feb 13, 2011

Aha. Nice post.



Motronic posted:

20 lb (4.6 gal) if you're talking like the kind you put on a BBQ grill that you can exchange at the gas station.

Yes.

Motronic posted:

Sure, but RV tanks are 30 gal and common enough, and they have the same outside threading that would work for heaters/BBQs. I think past that (other than fork truck tanks which are totally different) you're looking at 100 lb tanks which are super obviously different and I don't think they have the external thread on them.

In any case, I have 4 of those stand up patio heaters. They take a 20 lb tank in the base. If I turn them on high they work great, but by the time you've kicked half a tank they don't flow enough gas to be on "high" anymore since they're freezing the tanks. They last a good 4-6 hours. But probably only because they are freezing the tank.

What if you turn them up 3/4 high?

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

Mr. Mambold posted:

What if you turn them up 3/4 high?

That's the next try, probably closer to half. They throw out a lot of heat, even when forcibly down lower. I just always start them on high to get things going and only recently noticed that the flame level is real low and check to find frost on the tanks. Functionally everything is still fine surprisingly enough.

Scary propane things: we had a propane heater that was (and intended to be) mounted to a 500 gal above ground propane tank behind the fire house. This was to fix the problem of not being able to evaporate enough propane to keep the generator running when it was under.....30F I think? Maybe it was 20. Either way, it was a problem. That was sketchy as hell and we ended up going to a "tank farm" of 4 300 gal tanks that had enough surface area to work in any temperatures we'd get here.

deimos
Nov 30, 2006

Forget it man this bat is whack, it's got poobrain!
Re Multimeter, get the Chinese market Flukes. My Fluke 15b+ matches the local makerspace 87-V on the functions I could test.

E: oops there was another page on this thread.

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler
Solution, point the heater at the tanks. :v:

Motronic
Nov 6, 2009

Blistex posted:

Solution, point the heater at the tanks. :v:

Not gonna lie, considered pointing the diesel bullet heater down low. Just hasn't been necessary.

Hubis
May 18, 2003

Boy, I wish we had one of those doomsday machines...
Local high-school is being decommissioned so they are auctioning a bunch of furniture and shop equipment.

Someone please convince me I don't want this: https://www.themcguiregroupllc.com/auction/103/item/delta-x5-unisaw-table-saw-with-metal-base-side-feed-table-220v-as-is-17837

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Cannon_Fodder
Jul 17, 2007

"Hey, where did Steve go?"
Design by Kamoc

Hubis posted:

Local high-school is being decommissioned so they are auctioning a bunch of furniture and shop equipment.

Someone please convince me I don't want this: https://www.themcguiregroupllc.com/auction/103/item/delta-x5-unisaw-table-saw-with-metal-base-side-feed-table-220v-as-is-17837

I loving love mine.


Warning: no rivaling knife. Also, heavy as poo poo, get a mobile base if you plan on needing to move it.


Boy do I want this and boy do I not want to drive down from MI in the winter to get it. :(

https://www.themcguiregroupllc.com/auction/103/item/grizzly-floor-model-1014zx-belt-disc-sander-as-is-17822

Cannon_Fodder fucked around with this message at 19:13 on Dec 22, 2020

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