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Any good word about the new X1 Nano? I know they are overpriced. $2000 for 16gb ram is stupidly over priced. My T470 is still chugging along, really see no need to update other than to get a nicer screen, and light is always nice.
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Thanks everyone for the help!Lockback posted:Slim vs Thick probably isn't going to be the right focus if you want quiet. X1 Carbon seems like a good pick, but in general you want higher end laptops like that and not cheap ones. Based on your use you might even be able to get away with some of the nicer fanless options, so being loud isn't even possible. Valid point, honestly my only hesitation with the X1 Carbon is the 14” aspect, which I feel like isn’t going to be as nice as a 13”. Hadlock posted:If you liked the X220 you might look at the X13 which is extremely similar footprint to the 12.5" x220, due to smaller bezels on the 13" model. I had the X230 (same chassis as x220) for a long time and upgraded to the X390 which uses the same chassis as the X13 X13 is tempting, now that I’m looking at it. I don’t get machines too often, so I’m trying to dance between CPU/RAM options that are good but not going to be irritating in the near future. Imagine sticking with the i5 10210U or 10510U and 16 or 32GB will be more than enough for my needs? I’ve grown used to 32 on my work machine, but is 16gb the “minimum” like all these reviews are saying now? Nano seems way too new for me to want to gently caress with, plus the similarities with the old X220 chassis is very appealing.
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Dr. Habibi posted:X13 is tempting, now that I’m looking at it. I don’t get machines too often, so I’m trying to dance between CPU/RAM options that are good but not going to be irritating in the near future. Imagine sticking with the i5 10210U or 10510U and 16 or 32GB will be more than enough for my needs? I’ve grown used to 32 on my work machine, but is 16gb the “minimum” like all these reviews are saying now? I have 8gb in my x390 (X13) and it's just fine, seems to me like the OS will only use 10 of 16gb typically. 4gb is too little, but it's up to the user to decide if they need the extra 8gb for an extra ~$250 The nano looks cool but that's a lot of money for basically a Thinkpad chromebook with an i5 in it, I might loop back around and look at those when the price comes down. That looks like a $1100 laptop to me, priced at $2000
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16GB is not at all the minimum for your use case but since it sounds like your someone who goes long stretches without getting a new laptop 16GB is probably a good target. I don't think 32GB would do all that much for you. Nano looks nice and I wouldn't be worried about it being "too new" but, yeah, overpriced.
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Dec 16, 2020 00:58
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I can't wait for gen2 apple silicon can't waiiiiiiiiiit
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Dr. Habibi posted:Valid point, honestly my only hesitation with the X1 Carbon is the 14” aspect, which I feel like isn’t going to be as nice as a 13”. The X1 is a hair thinner, just as wide, and like 0.4” longer than the T390 Smaller than the other 14” Lenovo’s for sure.
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Thanks everyone, really appreciate the help. I think with specs more locked in, and knowing this:Bob Morales posted:The X1 is a hair thinner, just as wide, and like 0.4” longer than the T390 I’m probably going to aim for the X1 Carbon.
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Which brand rates well so far as used for running Linux, and is more semi-recent? I have taken a look on Ebay at both Dells and Lenovos, it seems as though the T470/480 models, and the T570 models seem to tick off enough boxes for what I want, possibly with the exception of 4 cores, which would require the x80 refreshes. Was really looking at the $350-550 range for used, might or might not require a HDD/OS, which I'm comfortable enough installing myself. Kinda aware that Intel video is preferred lately, as Nvidia is still pretty twitchy so far as driver support without issues; M.2 slots would be nice, but 2.5" for SSDs will work well enough. I've thought about Ryzen as well, but there's likely few/no choices at the price points I've been looking at.
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Killer_B posted:Which brand rates well so far as used for running Linux, and is more semi-recent? Red Hat issues all their developers Thinkpads, so they're the Linux laptop gold standard, it's not really worth discussion past that bullet point
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Killer_B posted:Which brand rates well so far as used for running Linux, and is more semi-recent? I bought a new in box used T480 and it's a very nice laptop to use. I will be trying Linux on it soon, but haven't gotten around to it yet. People say it all the time, whenever new generations come, but the T480 has been hailed as "last great Thinkpad". There are some things that are good that disappeared with later ones. Upgradeability and the ability to hot swap batteries.
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Killer_B posted:Which brand rates well so far as used for running Linux, and is more semi-recent? You shouldn't have any problem with a T480 I'd avoid a T470 or earlier because they are dual-core U series...  You already know that, though.Here's a T480S for $550 (or best offer) on eBay, needs an SSD though https://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-Thinkpad-T480s-i5-8250U-16GB-Ram-1920x1080-FHD/164585358064?hash=item26520d42f0:g:Q04AAOSwpfxf2pVn There are probably cheaper ones that was like the third hit. Laptop prices got jacked up by COVID/WFH. Any chance you can raise your budget at all? You can buy a T490S with 16GB/512GB for $730, brand new https://www.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-t-series/ThinkPad-T490s/p/22TP2TT490S
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Fun fact the X390 and the T490S share the same repair manual AFAIK the T490S is an X390 with a 14" screen, and a larger chassis to accommodate said screen
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Killer_B posted:Which brand rates well so far as used for running Linux, and is more semi-recent? You can get XPS 13 with Ubuntu preloaded
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Keep a close eye on the DPI for Linux laptops because fractional scaling is still practically nonexistent. I couldn't really use Linux on my XPS 13 with 1080p screen, everything is too small at 100% and way too big at 200%. There are experimental modes and hacks to enable it in some DEs but the performance hit is so hard I can't even play Youtube videos. KDE is the only DE that's passable with fractional scaling but a lot of software still doesn't play nice with it. Also both of my XPS laptops get horrific shrieking coil whine when I boot into Linux for some reason. No idea why. I'd say stick with ThinkPads. AgentCow007 fucked around with this message at 07:13 on Dec 19, 2020 |
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Dec 19, 2020 07:10
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Coil whine is a warranty covered issue for Dell, you shouldn't hear it
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Hadlock posted:The nano looks cool but that's a lot of money for basically a Thinkpad chromebook with an i5 in it, I might loop back around and look at those when the price comes down. That looks like a $1100 laptop to me, priced at $2000 Do Lenovo laptop prices usually go down after X weeks/months, or does it depend on what other laptops they're selling at the same time?
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Lenovo prices are multiple parallel roads though hilly terrain with hidden on onramps.
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Uh, can I ask a really dumb i-am-not-computer-person laptop question itt?
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Literally A Person posted:Uh, can I ask a really dumb i-am-not-computer-person laptop question itt? Yeah sure octoyam posted:Do Lenovo laptop prices usually go down after X weeks/months, or does it depend on what other laptops they're selling at the same time? Their online store is a loving mess, I think 95% of their direct sales are through corporate/enterprise deals, or supplying legacy brick and mortar, the retail website is mostly an afterthought What the other guy said about hills and roads
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Can I put an SSD into this: https://www.newegg.com/white-sony-vaio-nr-series-vgn-nr185e-w/p/N82E16834117610 I know it's old af but I don't know if it's like too old. Someone please tell me i am an idiot.
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Literally A Person posted:Can I put an SSD into this: https://www.newegg.com/white-sony-vaio-nr-series-vgn-nr185e-w/p/N82E16834117610 I believe the Hard drive is pretty hard to get to, but it looks like it's SATA. It'd also depend on the OS, if this is still on Vista probably not. You probably want at least 8 to get Trim (I believe you can get it on 7 too). I don't know if that'd even be SATAII but yeah I think it'd work. Wouldn't shock me if it didn't though!
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Literally A Person posted:Can I put an SSD into this: https://www.newegg.com/white-sony-vaio-nr-series-vgn-nr185e-w/p/N82E16834117610 crucial.com says it's possible to install a 2.5" SATA SSD
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TITTIEKISSER69 posted:crucial.com says it's possible to install a 2.5" SATA SSD Is there a such thing? I can't find anything like that that isn't sata 2 or 3? Doers that matter?
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Literally A Person posted:Is there a such thing? I can't find anything like that that isn't sata 2 or 3? Doers that matter? 2.5" is the physical width of the drive, the quotation mark means inches.
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Literally A Person posted:Is there a such thing? I can't find anything like that that isn't sata 2 or 3? Doers that matter? It'll just be slower.
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Literally A Person posted:Can I put an SSD into this: https://www.newegg.com/white-sony-vaio-nr-series-vgn-nr185e-w/p/N82E16834117610 That's a really old laptop with practically no value. Core 2 Duo is probably 2007? You'd be better off buying a refurbished Thinkpad, probably, than attempting to limp that along any further. You can get a refurbished T430 on eBay for $120 and it might already come with an SSD in it Another option is look at a used Chromebook for $99, depending on what you want to do with it
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lampey posted:You can get XPS 13 with Ubuntu preloaded Installing Manjaro on the SSD with pre-installed windows is a pain because you have to disable intel rapid storage technology, but there's a guide here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Dell/XPS/XPS-13-7390-2-in-1
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Is there anything better than the Asus G14 on the horizon? I got one back in the early summer for a college-bound kid and I'm a bit surprised it still seems the best for weight, power and price. Thinking it's about time to replace my almost 8-year old T530. It's been great, but it's really starting to show its age.
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Albinator posted:Is there anything better than the Asus G14 on the horizon? I got one back in the early summer for a college-bound kid and I'm a bit surprised it still seems the best for weight, power and price. Thinking it's about time to replace my almost 8-year old T530. It's been great, but it's really starting to show its age. Well AMD is planning a refresh of AMD laptop CPUs to keep up the race in 2021. Still haven't found anything similar out there to the Asus G14 in terms of portable gaming laptop along with being that competitive on price for overall specs.
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When is the best time to buy a laptop? I was looking around the black Friday and cyber Monday sales and didn't see anything that looked spectacular. When would be the next good window to shop for a laptop? Joke answer 11 months from now is fine.
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Oscar Wild posted:When is the best time to buy a laptop? I was looking around the black Friday and cyber Monday sales and didn't see anything that looked spectacular. When would be the next good window to shop for a laptop? ?? There were a bunch of good deals this year. Right now things will probably calm down, though there will be occasional good deals that pop up, they just won't all at once. Usually there are more sales in the Spring and then "Back to School" is the next biggest rush. What are you looking for?
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The next couple of months are probably going to be a good time to buy a discounted last-gen model since the new processors are hitting stores now. Boxing day even, although the doorcrashers are usually terrible.
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ On top of this, CES is January 11th, which means new models. Everyone should be clearing inventory between now and things announced there landing on shelves.
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Thanks, maybe I didn't look aggressively enough. I have a Lenovo and will likely get another one. I do some light gaming but tend to keep my computers for years. My current one is from 2012 so I want to be as future proof as possible for about $1600 or so.
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Oscar Wild posted:When is the best time to buy a laptop? I was looking around the black Friday and cyber Monday sales and didn't see anything that looked spectacular. When would be the next good window to shop for a laptop? Answer in two parts Newest laptops: Generally new laptops are announced in June-September and actually land in customers hands late October to February. Once you get in to April, you're getting close to when new products are being announced That said, there's been a global cpu shortage for 2+ years at this point and it's hard to buy a laptop with the latest cpu in it. New laptops under $800 usually have a cpu model that's 3 years old at this point. Getting a laptop with a 2020 year model cpu gets pricey fast due to limited supply driving prices up Apple bought 100% of the output of a major taiwanese fab for an entire year which is not helping things. Intel can't get their poo poo together and has been producing CPUs below expected rates for nearly 5 years now, no wonder they've been through 3 CEOs in that time frame Cheapest laptops Only crappy, high margin laptops go on sale. It's rare to see the XPS and good Thinkpads go on sale more than $100 off Hadlock fucked around with this message at 20:39 on Dec 22, 2020 |
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Thanks, that must be why I was underwhelmed during November. I understand the supply chain issues. Oh well, at least I dont need to be too date sensitive since the deals will be only marginally good.
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I just bought a new laptop for work. It will primarily be for work but I'm not sure if it's good for anything else (light gaming, edting, etc) and searching online I can't tell since it's newer. I haven't bought a computer in almost a decade. It is a dell inspiron 7506 512 ssd and 12 gb of ram. It's super great for what I need it for just seeing if anyone had any other idea since I am super lost.
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Optimist with doubt posted:I just bought a new laptop for work. It will primarily be for work but I'm not sure if it's good for anything else (light gaming, edting, etc) and searching online I can't tell since it's newer. I haven't bought a computer in almost a decade. Some very light gaming and editing, probably? There's a bunch of different configurations for most Dell models so hard to say more without knowing the processor and gpu in yours. It's got some flavour of integrated graphics and possibly a discrete laptop gpu that is marginally better. If you're curious, run DXDIAG from the start menu. The processor is under the system tab and the integrated/discrete gpus will be under the display tabs.
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It's probably fine Most developers target the Nintendo switch as a build target which is about on par with a Pixel 2 phone from a few years ago, or whatever Modern laptop will eat that for breakfast
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Thanks guys! You are alriiiiight.
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