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His detailing their little ritual every night was also very sweet. You could see on Tony's face that he was already feeling like poo poo even before the explanation of the dream and what his wife told him.
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Pattonesque posted:I've said this before but it's hilarious that out of everyone on that show Little Carmine is the one who basically won The Mafia Doesn't a pound of blood cost more than a gallon of gold or some such poo poo? Carmine was like the Yogi Berra of the mafia. For those who don't get that reference https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/general/yogi-berra-was-master-malapropisms-then-sportspeople-say-funniest-things-10514870.html
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Pattonesque posted:I've said this before but it's hilarious that out of everyone on that show Little Carmine is the one who basically won The Mafia Someone in this thread pointed out that he's actually going to be an incredible role model for AJ, and I haven't been able to get that thought out of my head since I was hard on Little Carmine in the earlier seasons, when he was actually trying to be boss, but Chill Carmine is a great character and I love him.
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Ainsley McTree posted:Someone in this thread pointed out that he's actually going to be an incredible role model for AJ, and I haven't been able to get that thought out of my head since If Tony did die in the finale I could definitely see Carmine making sure that Carmela and AJ are taken care of to some extent.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:His detailing their little ritual every night was also very sweet. You could see on Tony's face that he was already feeling like poo poo even before the explanation of the dream and what his wife told him. he's all like "yeah we talk about our days and how we're feeling about them" and Tony is like ?????????
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it just occurred to me: Little Carmine was the best-case scenario for Donald Trump Jr.
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Do you think Carmine got another good tromp l'oil painting?
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Dawgstar posted:Do you think Carmine got another good tromp l'oil painting? He should call Melfi and get one of those special made psychological pictures imo
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Vichan posted:If Tony did die in the finale I could definitely see Carmine making sure that Carmela and AJ are taken care of to some extent. Little Carmine talking AJ down from trying to avenge Tony would be an all-time dialogue
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Vichan posted:If Tony did die in the finale I could definitely see Carmine making sure that Carmela and AJ are taken care of to some extent. I got the impression that the Mafia "taking care of" family after a death was overblown PR to make the families feel better about the risk. Carmela never seemed to put a lot of stock in it.
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PostNouveau posted:I got the impression that the Mafia "taking care of" family after a death was overblown PR to make the families feel better about the risk. Carmela never seemed to put a lot of stock in it. I feel like the idea is that they pay a person/family enough just enough to keep them quiet. Carmella, already rich, would stand to lose just about everything as the survivors quibbled over the spoils.
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phasmid posted:I feel like the idea is that they pay a person/family enough just enough to keep them quiet. Carmella, already rich, would stand to lose just about everything as the survivors quibbled over the spoils. Yeah. She knew what it would mean if her financial well being was left up to somebody like Paulie.
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And any doubts she had were confirmed when Tony was in the coma and both Vito and Paulie were planning on stiffing her out of the (I think) $250,000 they owed him from the Colombian heist.
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BiggerBoat posted:Got up to The Pine Barrens episode of Talkin Sopranos if anyone's interested. Had no idea Steve Buscemi was a fire fighter on 9/11, that's wild
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Gyshall posted:Had no idea Steve Buscemi was a fire fighter on 9/11, that's wild Nobody did for years because he didn't publicize it. It wasn't until someone showed him a picture that he admitted, yes, he went back and helped out his old ladder company for a few weeks after 9/11.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Nobody did for years because he didn't publicize it. It wasn't until someone showed him a picture that he admitted, yes, he went back and helped out his old ladder company for a few weeks after 9/11. I think there's literally just the one picture of him and he's not even the focus of it. what a mensch
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Southbeach Strumpets good team name for Sopranos pub trivia night.
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Just occurring to me how weird it is to have a 21st-century mafia-funded porn movie with "strumpets" in the title, but thinking about it that is an extremely Little Carmine word
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Just a lil book of Little Carmine's malapropisms. "I crossed my own personal ruby on." "Mutatis myoo-something. Change is good." "There are known knowns and known unknowns, but there are a lot of other things as well."
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 "No joke Sal, you don't want to see my darker side"
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Boofy posted:
Honestly I think that actor would've been better suited to play a mobster.
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Well he did for like 2 min in Suicide Kings
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banned from Starbucks posted:Well he did for like 2 min in Suicide Kings
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Vichan posted:Honestly I think that actor would've been better suited to play a mobster. Didn't he leave the show because he got a bigger role in 24?
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Dawgstar posted:Didn't he leave the show because he got a bigger role in 24? No, he didn't start on 24 until season 4, which was in 2005. His last episode of the Sopranos was season 3 in 2001.
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Btw I have never had lard bread but now I want it.
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I still think Little Carmine got pulled in by the vacuum left behind after the series finale. He was able to dodge the responsibility one time, but after being the one to set up the meeting that ended the war, no way do I think he rode back off into the sunset carefree. If you were the next boss of that family, would you feel comfortable having someone with that level of influence who was able to bring together a meeting to murk the last boss just existing out there in the world?
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I think the next in line was prob Butchie or the other guy at the meeting.(Albie?) In which case they're prob fine with Lil Carmine sitting back making his slasher movies having helped put them in place. Carmine might have influence over the people that supported his dad but if a guys not looking to make waves I dont think there'd be reason to target him.
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"There's a lot of things I could say right now that I'm NOT gonna say!" I love how Tony and Janice hurl this at each other on multiple occasions.
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phasmid posted:Btw I have never had lard bread but now I want it. I could never tell if he was saying lard bread or log bread. Speaking of which, Lincoln log sandwiches are loving disgusting.
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Found this article about Joe Gannascoli and the Vito story line https://melmagazine.com/en-us/story/oral-history-johnny-cakes-sopranos-vito-gay quote:For one thing, they really go out of their way to make it clear that Tony Soprano isn’t homophobic. Yet Tony is a total racist and he’s old-fashioned in so many ways that this feels a bit like it’s pandering. While racial minorities aren’t the same as sexual minorities, this does feel out of character for him, so it feels almost like it’s the loose thread in the Vito storyline. I'd never really much thought about that but I always read it as 1. A result of Tony's therapy and medications and 2. The simple fact that Vito made him so much money. I never read it as a out of character but maybe. BiggerBoat fucked around with this message at 13:09 on Dec 19, 2020 |
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It was definitely number 2. I don't think Tony actually cared about the why of killing Vito, and only thought about the money he'd be losing. It just happens this one time Tony's wants line up with a social issue. If Vito had been a regular earner I'm sure he would have given the go ahead to keep the troops/NY happy.
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Solice Kirsk posted:It was definitely number 2. I don't think Tony actually cared about the why of killing Vito, and only thought about the money he'd be losing. It just happens this one time Tony's wants line up with a social issue. If Vito had been a regular earner I'm sure he would have given the go ahead to keep the troops/NY happy. Except there's several times Tony breaks the "rules" due to some (perhaps) misplaced sensitivity, especially as he gets further and further along in his therapy. Getting Chris into rehab and excusing his fuckups, covering for Tony B., whacking Ralph over the horse and beating his rear end over Tracy, having a blind spot about Pussy being a rat, softening on what to do about Vito and Jackie Jr., etc. All of which gets him in a heap of poo poo. I've heard it posited that therapy actually made Tony a worse boss/gangster and I tend to agree with that since everything related to positive mental health is in direct conflict with being an effective, hardened mob boss.
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He pretty much pushed Ralph into making the call to kill Jackie. Ralph straight up said he wants to give him a pass and Tony lays into him until he has to change his mind. He also didn't really hesitate with Pussy. Once he suspected something he confirmed and killed him the same day, despite having food poisoning.
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Solice Kirsk posted:Ralph straight up said he wants to give him a pass and Tony lays into him until he has to change his mind. Ralph wanted Tony to give the order, Tony wasn't about to give him the satisfaction.
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How would that even have played out if they let Jackie go? I'm assuming Furio and/or Chris would just kill him anyways, but how much backlash would that have caused?
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Solice Kirsk posted:It was definitely number 2. I don't think Tony actually cared about the why of killing Vito, and only thought about the money he'd be losing. It just happens this one time Tony's wants line up with a social issue. If Vito had been a regular earner I'm sure he would have given the go ahead to keep the troops/NY happy. It was absolutely the money. Tony was even pushing his captains to a point where they felt comfortable telling Sil they would defy him if Vito came back. The "old school" guys like Carlo and Paulie were expecting him to be killed as a matter of course. The very first thing Tony snaps back at them with is "are you gonna take care of his kids" given the whole laughable perception that a made guy's family is actually taken care of when they die. He didn't want to be expected to kick money over to Vito's wife and kids. Solice Kirsk posted:How would that even have played out if they let Jackie go? I'm assuming Furio and/or Chris would just kill him anyways, but how much backlash would that have caused? Chris kind of touches on it when he refuses to go on that last truck hijacking. Without those rules and codes, what else do they have? It's all a polite fiction they agree to and once they stop the whole thing falls apart. It's come up a few times in his long winded tales, but Micheal Franzese said that you couldn't even yell at a made guy without facing some serious consequences, much less any threats of violence. Shooting at one and getting a pass would be insane.
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Vichan posted:Ralph wanted Tony to give the order, Tony wasn't about to give him the satisfaction. This is such a masterful scene. From the moment they sit down they're both subtly (at first) trying to push the responsibility on the other one without directly stating it. It's easy to miss the first time through but then after you understand what's going on it's as clear as day.
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Human Tornada posted:This is such a masterful scene. From the moment they sit down they're both subtly (at first) trying to push the responsibility on the other one without directly stating it. It's easy to miss the first time through but then after you understand what's going on it's as clear as day. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neVu3AQAJNo You're right, easily one of the best scenes of the season. Top comment breaks it down nicely: quote:Ralph: He did a terrible thing (he's supposed to die for this) Vichan fucked around with this message at 19:12 on Dec 19, 2020 |
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pentyne posted:
"Yeah...they didn't do nothin" I just learned that Drea de Matteo and Chris Kushner do a Sopranos podcast too. Hadn't seen it mentioned https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEWUvP2He1qhI735VtD659A
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