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Brawnfire posted:I'm gonna be the guy with a tilapia hydroponics setup who won't shut up about tilapia hydroponics Based on most of the replies to that tweet you're aiming way too high. You want to be the guy who leads weekly discussions of tilapia hydroponics instead.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:If Ready Player 1 is cyberpunk then cancel cyberpunk I'm torn between just agreeing with this because I detest the author and pointing out that just because something is the worst example of a genre doesn't mean it isn't in fact part of that genre.
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Dec 23, 2020 04:19
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chitoryu12 posted:The only thing truly punk is that punks will never believe anything is sufficiently punk. The arbitrary definition is always moving. I have a pink wallet with a cartoon of a bunny. THAT is true punk.
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Dec 23, 2020 06:44
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McClintock posted:The punk rolled up his big blue eyes Punk is a word that has been used to describe a victim of sexual abuse. It was taken back in many ways. Gutter punk, street punk, even trust fund idiots doing crust punk. To be called a punk in the system is still very homophobic but it's something that people take back. Cyberpunk as a term is dead as dirt because we're living in that world, we just get punked by corporations and governments. There's a reason Gibson refers to himself as a 'speculative fiction' author now. Most of the worst poo poo has come true or soon will be.
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Dec 23, 2020 07:09
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BaldDwarfOnPCP posted:Punk is a word that has been used to describe a victim of sexual abuse. William Gibson no longer calls himself a cyberpunk writer because pretty much no one would call his later books (Pattern Recognition and on) cyberpunk.
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Dec 23, 2020 07:11
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Skwirl posted:William Gibson no longer calls himself a cyberpunk writer because pretty much no one would call his later books (Pattern Recognition and on) cyberpunk. The Peripheral is pretty cyberpunky, he's evolved well as an author in general though, his newer books reflect the modern age and a bleak future a lot like his original ones did. Pattern Recognition is great, but yeah it's set in the current day so it can't be Cyberpunk.
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Dec 23, 2020 07:33
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BaldDwarfOnPCP posted:Punk is a word that has been used to describe a victim of sexual abuse. Is this an LoB gimmick or
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Elviscat posted:The Peripheral is pretty cyberpunky, he's evolved well as an author in general though, his newer books reflect the modern age and a bleak future a lot like his original ones did. I should read his even newer books, looking up his post 9/11 work I realized Zero History was the last book of his I read and it came out 10 years ago.
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Dec 23, 2020 08:24
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please for the love of god shut up about what is and isn't cyberpunk wild geeters not the idiot https://twitter.com/classiclib3ral/status/1341542712793829379?s=20
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Dec 23, 2020 09:17
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Necrothatcher posted:please for the love of god shut up about what is and isn't cyberpunk Feel really bad for anyone born January 4th 1988, or April 1st 1988 if they were born in Europe.
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Dec 23, 2020 09:22
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I feel very PUNK driving down the street suddenly spotting YOUTHS with BOUNTIES put on them by corpo fascist police. I then trusting the SYSTEM to tell me who the BAD GUYS are i pull out my SILENCED REVOLVER sneak crouch attack kill them all in seconds, then loot their bodies. A passerby looks at me horrified, saying some NONSENSE about "they had a family" and "couldnt you just have knocked them out"? I was just going to reply when a casual scan suddenly revealed a bounty of 10 eurodollars for littering near a corpo vending machine. sighing i took out my SILENCED REVOLVER...
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Dec 23, 2020 09:29
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Necrothatcher posted:please for the love of god shut up about what is and isn't cyberpunk https://twitter.com/inceltown/status/1341599405191831554
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Content for the content Gods https://twitter.com/HonourableHappy/status/1341328673547411458 
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Dec 23, 2020 09:42
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When ur so good at economics you think you literally create money.
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Dec 23, 2020 09:45
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Inceltown posted:Content for the content Gods That's sorta true, ten times in a few years is a loving insane return on investment that no one gets outside of investment schemes that are not only technically crimes but the exact reason we made laws about investment. But it's also completely insane because it reveals the idea that having money is a better thing to him than spending money for useful things. Like just fully worshipping at the altar of Moloch. The reason poor people spend all their money immediately is because they need to spend it in order to not die.
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Dec 23, 2020 09:52
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Incredibly revealing that he doesn't consider money to exist anymore if it's not hoarded in an account. That's all money is, just a way to keep score. Not a means to purchase goods and services.
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wizzardstaff posted:Incredibly revealing that he doesn't consider money to exist anymore if it's not hoarded in an account. That's all money is, just a way to keep score. Not a means to purchase goods and services. It gets better 
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wizzardstaff posted:Incredibly revealing that he doesn't consider money to exist anymore if it's not hoarded in an account. That's all money is, just a way to keep score. Not a means to purchase goods and services. That's the insane thing, right wingers never understand that poor people spending their money on dumb poo poo is what makes the economy work. Like why does it matter that someone on SNAP buys the more expensive meat instead of eating nothing but rice and beans, the same amount of money goes into the grocery store allowing them to employee clerks and what not and also buying that expensive beef in the first place giving jobs to cowboys. Do they really think we should eliminate jobs for cowboys?
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Big Mackson posted:I feel very PUNK driving down the street suddenly spotting YOUTHS with BOUNTIES put on them by corpo fascist police. I then trusting the SYSTEM to tell me who the BAD GUYS are i pull out my SILENCED REVOLVER sneak crouch attack kill them all in seconds, then loot their bodies. A passerby looks at me horrified, saying some NONSENSE about "they had a family" and "couldnt you just have knocked them out"? I was just going to reply when a casual scan suddenly revealed a bounty of 10 eurodollars for littering near a corpo vending machine. sighing i took out my SILENCED REVOLVER... Thing is in that game all the gangs apart from like the mox, voodoo boys and uh... 6th street??? Are ridiculously violent psychopaths. So it makes sense in the game that you shoot them. But this is actually more insidious because there's no chance for the player to have the realization you just wrote. In the game the Corps are obviously corrupt and inhumane but they are correct that all the youths are violent and will steal your cyber spleen. No one in the game is ever just 'littering near a corpo vending machine'. Everyone is a cyber organ harvester and aspiring snuff film producer. It's so perfectly crypto-fash because it says 'we get it, the world is a gently caress' and then spends the rest of the game telling you the corpos are right and you should just shoot everyone. Cha-ching!
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The corpos are your enemy the entire game. The game literally identifies Arasaka with the Devil
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Skwirl posted:That's the insane thing, right wingers never understand No they understand perfectly well. They just care more about punishing people than helping them.
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Big Mackson posted:I feel very PUNK driving down the street suddenly spotting YOUTHS with BOUNTIES put on them by corpo fascist police. I then trusting the SYSTEM to tell me who the BAD GUYS are i pull out my SILENCED REVOLVER sneak crouch attack kill them all in seconds, then loot their bodies. A passerby looks at me horrified, saying some NONSENSE about "they had a family" and "couldnt you just have knocked them out"? I was just going to reply when a casual scan suddenly revealed a bounty of 10 eurodollars for littering near a corpo vending machine. sighing i took out my SILENCED REVOLVER... Cyberpunk is known for having highly moral pacifist protagonists pure of virtue, I'm very intelligent and not trying to come up with stupid complaints just because.
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You are all welcome to my annual day of burning Shadowrun books because it allows you to do runs for corporations (25 Dec)
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Inceltown posted:cw: animal abuse fair enough for the cw but this is all text and pretty stupid sounding
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Fishstick posted:It gets better Investing in survival is a net-loss for rich people, didn’t you know?
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Regarde Aduck posted:Thing is in that game all the gangs apart from like the mox, voodoo boys and uh... 6th street??? Are ridiculously violent psychopaths. So it makes sense in the game that you shoot them. But this is actually more insidious because there's no chance for the player to have the realization you just wrote. In the game the Corps are obviously corrupt and inhumane but they are correct that all the youths are violent and will steal your cyber spleen. No one in the game is ever just 'littering near a corpo vending machine'. Everyone is a cyber organ harvester and aspiring snuff film producer. It's so perfectly crypto-fash because it says 'we get it, the world is a gently caress' and then spends the rest of the game telling you the corpos are right and you should just shoot everyone. Cha-ching! always awesome when people who haven't played the game rant about poo poo they imagine it to be
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Silly Newbie posted:Is this an LoB gimmick or Sorry, what? No gimmick. Just a quick and dirty etymology of the word punk as I understand it. No mention of punk music in my post but I feel that's unrelated to 'punk' in the sense of cyberpunk, steampunk, *punk &c.
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Lol why do you feel that?
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i was going to say probably the pcp, but then i vaguely remembered some of the etymology of punk and yeah they're not totally wrong
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is cyberpunk related to the meaning of punk as you posted
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Arsenic Lupin posted:Here you go. And it was yakisoba that was considered outre. https://twitter.com/wouldhaus/status/1338419857541328896 I hate to be a pedant but if you're complaining about a word being made to be exotic you should give the right translation ("konpeki" is a dark blue - the blue the sea is not the blue the sky is. He seems to have gotten aozora and konpeki confused?)
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Gargamel Gibson posted:Lol why do you feel that? There's just a long and interesting history of the word 'punk' that predates The Sex Pistols or OPIV or Rancid or NOFX or BR. I just find it interesting how words change over time. I've read William Gibson and Masamune Shirow. Still haven't finished Zybourne Clock but getting ahold of that is like getting a copy of Utopia.
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ookiimarukochan posted:I hate to be a pedant but if you're complaining about a word being made to be exotic you should give the right translation ("konpeki" is a dark blue - the blue the sea is not the blue the sky is. He seems to have gotten aozora and konpeki confused?) i just thought it was neat for a district to have the same name as a fountain pen ink i own at least one review of said ink describes the translation of "kon-peki" to be "very sunny sky" despite Pilot's own translation being "deep cerulean blue" so lmao stringless has a new favorite as of 14:04 on Dec 23, 2020 |
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BaldDwarfOnPCP posted:There's just a long and interesting history of the word 'punk' that predates The Sex Pistols or OPIV or Rancid or NOFX or BR. That wasnt the question, the question was "Why on earth do you feel that the -punk in cyberpunk is unrelated to the use of the word as applied by punk music but is related to the now archaic meaning "victim of sexual violence (primarily in a prison context)", despite cyberpunk borrowing a lot of its aesthetics/atitudes from punk rockers?"
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Also for better or for worse steampunk started with The Difference Engine. Co-written by Gibson and Sterling. It did not glorify the victorian age. It was also confusing because of collaborating they basically each wrote one half of a book and mashed them together. Still interesting.
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SiKboy posted:That wasnt the question, the question was "Why on earth do you feel that the -punk in cyberpunk is unrelated to the use of the word as applied by punk music but is related to the now archaic meaning "victim of sexual violence (primarily in a prison context)", despite cyberpunk borrowing a lot of its aesthetics/atitudes from punk rockers?" Unrelated? I feel like it's completely related. The sexploitation and victimization are the basis of punk music and cyberpunk. Sorry it's just the PCP talking.
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ookiimarukochan posted:I hate to be a pedant but if you're complaining about a word being made to be exotic you should give the right translation ("konpeki" is a dark blue - the blue the sea is not the blue the sky is. He seems to have gotten aozora and konpeki confused?) Ah, just according to keikaku!* (*Translator note: Keikaku means plan)
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BaldDwarfOnPCP posted:Also for better or for worse steampunk started with The Difference Engine. Co-written by Gibson and Sterling. It did not glorify the victorian age. It was also confusing because of collaborating they basically each wrote one half of a book and mashed them together. Still interesting. doesn't sound as good as Good Omens tbh
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BaldDwarfOnPCP posted:Unrelated? I feel like it's completely related. The sexploitation and victimization are the basis of punk music and cyberpunk. Oh, you see, we thought you believed them to be unrelated because we must have mistakenly got that from when you said BaldDwarfOnPCP posted:Sorry, what? silly us.
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