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Orange Crush Rush posted:GOING INTO ACTION Bahaha
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Dec 23, 2020 20:52
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When do I get to meet Jackie’s family? I have the point of no return available to me so I don’t know what else to do to trigger it.
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Dec 23, 2020 20:52
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Orange Crush Rush posted:yeah the first mod I'm gonna look for it something that just rolls all legendaries to have max slots this would be an instant download for me. def. one of the things i hate most is save scumming to try to get a better roll on these items.
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Dec 23, 2020 20:53
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Mill Village posted:When do I get to meet Jackie’s family? I have the point of no return available to me so I don’t know what else to do to trigger it. You probably chose the wrong option, when you chose where to send Jackie's body. You only get his funeral if you choose to send his body to his family. Jackie's mother will call you to invite you to the funeral.
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Dec 23, 2020 20:54
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IShallRiseAgain posted:You probably chose the wrong option, when you chose where to send Jackie's body. You only get his funeral if you choose to send his body to his family. Jackie's mother will call you to invite you to the funeral. Delamaine rolling up like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IEm7RHZMI0&t=185s
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Dec 23, 2020 20:58
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Kraftwerk posted:I'm thinking about picking up RDR2 over the holidays because it's so highly rated but I've never been a fan of Rockstar's crime drama oriented spin to things. I played GTA V to the end of the singleplayer campaign and never touched it again. Maybe I'm mentally broken but Rockstar games never really "hooked me" the way do other people and I bounced off them. The idea of being a train robbing outlaw in the wild west doesn't seem to quite hold the same appeal as trying to be a well meaning but morally questionable Edgerunner. I guess there's Baldur's Gate 3 in the meantime. Maybe that will be fun to play. I might be completely alone in this but the intimacy/immersion of all of the first person perspective conversations (and car rides, etc.) has kinda ruined other RPGs for me. I don't know if I could ever get into a typical third person RPG again as easily after this experience.
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Dec 23, 2020 21:04
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What's the deal with the cat anyway? It shows up a couple times in places it would be impossible for a real cat to be, specifically in the ending when you're walking up those stairs. They mention it has some symbolic meaning earlier but that seemed like more than just that to me.
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Dec 23, 2020 21:05
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Vince MechMahon posted:What's the deal with the cat anyway? It shows up a couple times in places it would be impossible for a real cat to be, specifically in the ending when you're walking up those stairs. They mention it has some symbolic meaning earlier but that seemed like more than just that to me. I found a cat underwater grooming itself once so maybe all the cats in the game are cyberpets that have powers beyond our understanding.
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Dec 23, 2020 21:07
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afflictionwisp posted:If I craft a bunch of items, my save file grows. If I then destroy them and save again, the file shrinks. It stands to reason that if youre using the glitches that manipulate items in your inventory in unintented ways, it could be leaving junk behind. I would consider that plus CDPR's statement that they're related as more than anecdotal, though not definitively detailed. What CDPR statement? I hope you're not talking about that CDPR forum mod from a while back.
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Dec 23, 2020 21:12
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Vince MechMahon posted:What's the deal with the cat anyway? It shows up a couple times in places it would be impossible for a real cat to be, specifically in the ending when you're walking up those stairs. They mention it has some symbolic meaning earlier but that seemed like more than just that to me. Some of them are probably fragments of Johnny's memory, as he saw the cat just before passing out after Alt is taken, but Takemura clearly sees one during the stakeout of the float factory and makes a pretty direct statement re: the cat as a folkloric psychopomp.
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Dec 23, 2020 21:16
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Vince MechMahon posted:What's the deal with the cat anyway? It shows up a couple times in places it would be impossible for a real cat to be, specifically in the ending when you're walking up those stairs. They mention it has some symbolic meaning earlier but that seemed like more than just that to me. It's a Bakeneko, OP
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Dec 23, 2020 21:19
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Last King posted:this stuff is really interesting and it would've been really cool to do / dive in to more of this vs. the other filler stuff they put in. maybe even one side mission where you got to "dive in" would've been really great. like the bd stuff they showed off, and then once you actually get the game, you realize it's only used in a few specific scripted places to advance the plot. if you could actually buy bds and watch a few, it would at least feel like things were more fleshed out. Yeah. Maybe this is highly controversial and I'm completely full of poo poo, but I suspect that if there's ever any chance of righting past wrongs and making the world of cyberpunk a somewhat better place, the solution likely lies in enlisting the help of AIs to do it. The moral dilemma will be whether or not it's okay for humans to give up the ability to choose their own destiny in exchange for the relative comfort and safety an AI could hypothetically provide. Perhaps that is what the entire Dream On quest is hinting about. Exploring beyond the blackwall is probably one of the single greatest mysteries this game can offer and I really hope we have some opportunity to do cyberspace style netrunning in just that sort of capacity.
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Dec 23, 2020 21:20
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WarpedLichen posted:Not a ton, but once you have the crafting discount perks material shortages kinda just go away. Also if you going to be doing a lot of crafting I highly recommend a little .in tweak to make crafting instant so you don't have to hold the button down. Such a huge QOL imo
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Dec 23, 2020 21:21
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ughhhh posted:clothing items seem to have it level reset to your level when placed in your apartment stash. That would explain why things show up as 0 armor and 0 dps in the stash but actually have stats when you pull them out wtf
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Dec 23, 2020 21:23
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The whole game was giving me some Soma vibes in terms of "what makes a person a person". Especially when it came to Alt and the concept of the engrams. Dream On was just kind of a depressing quest.
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Dec 23, 2020 21:23
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Vince MechMahon posted:What's the deal with the cat anyway? It shows up a couple times in places it would be impossible for a real cat to be, specifically in the ending when you're walking up those stairs. They mention it has some symbolic meaning earlier but that seemed like more than just that to me. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cat_Who_Walks_Through_Walls reference maybe?
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Dec 23, 2020 21:24
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Sachant posted:I might be completely alone in this but the intimacy/immersion of all of the first person perspective conversations (and car rides, etc.) has kinda ruined other RPGs for me. I don't know if I could ever get into a typical third person RPG again as easily after this experience. I'm the opposite, really. I miss the staging of conversations in The Witcher compared to this. Seeing Geralt emoting and gesturing was great. In most 2077 conversations, I feel more like a camera on legs than an actual person. No argument that first person works great for car rides and the more intimate moments though PerilPastry fucked around with this message at 21:27 on Dec 23, 2020 |
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Dec 23, 2020 21:24
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I'd rather have first person RPGs not be voiced, and 3rd person RPGs be a specific singular character that is voiced.
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Dec 23, 2020 21:26
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Kraftwerk posted:Exploring beyond the blackwall is probably one of the single greatest mysteries this game can offer and I really hope we have some opportunity to do cyberspace style netrunning in just that sort of capacity. I think it's presented as so alien and bizarre that I don't know how the game could even represent this without taking away the mystery, sort of how the reapers in Mass Effect became less scary the more you saw them. PerilPastry posted:Maybe I'm weird but I'm the opposite. I really miss the staging of conversations in The Witcher compared to this. Seeing Geralt emoting and gesturing felt really impactful to me. Now, during most conversations in 2077 I feel more like a camera on legs than an actual person Something about making eye contact with NPCs while talking to them really got me in a way that third person RPGs never have. I often found periodically myself looking away mid conversation like I naturally would to lower the intensity. Also specifically not seeing my character react to things I think left a vacuum that I filled myself as a player and let me have my own reactions more "purely", if that makes sense. It helped that the game didn't really suffer from "that's not what I meant to say" dialogue prompts -- generally I felt that V correctly expressed what I wanted to express when selecting a response. Sachant fucked around with this message at 21:30 on Dec 23, 2020 |
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Dec 23, 2020 21:28
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Done at 65 hours (thanks covid and crappy weather) and despite it's flaws I thought it was fantastic, top three played this year along with Hades and Disco Elysium. Ending: went Panam and let Johnny keep the body whilst V went with Alt which felt like the right choice, even if the voicemails over the credits make you feel like poo poo. Can only hope they continue with the setting and that we end up comparing any sequals the same way we look at ME1 to ME2 or Withcher 1 to Witcher 3.
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Dec 23, 2020 21:29
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It would be really fun to work on witcher 4 though. I feel like in a way it has so little of expectation in terms of character and setting since 3 kinda wrapped everything up, you would have a lot of creative freedom
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Dec 23, 2020 21:33
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The criticism that Cyberpunk doesn't have a lot (or anything depending where you're coming from) to say isn't completely true but has some validity to it. I haven't put my every living moment to going through everything in the game and analyzing everything etc. but one problem I can see myself having is that most of the messaging in the game is basically just something that you already agree with it unless you're a massive piece of poo poo. Corporate exploitation pretty bad, amirite? Maybe we should improve society somewhat? The problem with this is what a recent CCK Philosophy video touched upon about the Simpsons. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hi_fxwLBSFo&t=1576s The Simpsons had some pretty strong messaging in the 90s but the problem with that also was that it came to you by Rupert Murdoch monetizing it. Your subversive messaging in Cyberpunk has been monetized by some polish investors, corporate scam artists and endless amounts of worker exploitation. And it also hires a musician who's the partner of an apartheid emerald mine owners failson. That feels pretty capitalist realism to me. I guess it's all worth it if the message is very radical? Is it? Still love the game but thinking too much about what got us Cyberpunk puts a real dent in my enjoyment and makes it harder to look past the warts. The last thing that bothered my immersion very hard was seeing the cop who commits suicide because of depression and PTSD, Barry's model pretty much everywhere if you just walk in Kabuki or Little China.
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Dec 23, 2020 21:33
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Sachant posted:I think it's presented as so alien and bizarre that I don't know how the game could even represent this without taking away the mystery, sort of how the reapers in Mass Effect became less scary the more you saw them. they took care of this decades ago. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzRjtvMQds4 
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Dec 23, 2020 21:34
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LifeSunDeath posted:while fun, no on reacts to the horn, Steal a cop car. The siren is just amazing.
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Dec 23, 2020 21:34
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I use it all the time though cause why not.
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Sachant posted:Something about making eye contact with NPCs while talking to them really got me in a way that third person RPGs never have. I often found periodically myself looking away mid conversation like I naturally would to lower the intensity. Also specifically not seeing my character react to things I think left a vacuum that I filled myself as a player and let me have my own reactions more "purely", if that makes sense. It helped that the game didn't really suffer from "that's not what I meant to say" dialogue prompts -- generally I felt that V correctly expressed what I wanted to express when selecting a response. Tbf, I only get the disembodied "tripod" feeling in the less critical conversations where the player doesn't have as much of a physical presence. In the main quest conversations where the player is gesturing and interacting physically with the world/people it felt much more grounded and I felt much more immersed in V. Your interactions with the dolls at Clouds or your romance partners, for instance, are amazingly intense.
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Dec 23, 2020 21:41
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Most of the entire game is you being a merc and participating actively in capitalism by offering your services to the best buyer. Never mind the standard RPG trappings with gaining economic power and selling and buying stuff constantly. So yeah, of course in practical terms is 'capitalism realism', the game isn't about living in a hippy commune.
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Dec 23, 2020 21:47
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Last King posted:they took care of this decades ago. The title of this is bullshit. This part of Johnny Mnemonic is also good: https://youtu.be/J1okpAj7Fhw
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Dec 23, 2020 21:51
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Mr E posted:I found a cat underwater grooming itself once so maybe all the cats in the game are cyberpets that have powers beyond our understanding.
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Dec 23, 2020 21:51
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necrobobsledder posted:The old net is actually powered by a bunch of AI that got confused by all the cat pictures of the Old Internet and decided to put their physical bodies into cats in the physical world thinking they would be supreme beings in it worshipped by humans. Not entirely wrong on that last sentence tbh
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Dec 23, 2020 21:54
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A cool concept they could use is that the AI behind the Black Wall are even more advanced at this point people believe, having evolved in the last decades without supervision. Post singularity, etc. So with their vast intellects they could have found a way to go through the black wall undetected and observe/mess around the real world.
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Dec 23, 2020 21:54
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Dunkey's pissed at the bugs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DPW6fkcM-14
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Dec 23, 2020 21:54
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MadJackal posted:Dunkey's pissed at the bugs. dunkey goin for them views
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Dec 23, 2020 21:56
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IShallRiseAgain posted:You probably chose the wrong option, when you chose where to send Jackie's body. You only get his funeral if you choose to send his body to his family. Jackie's mother will call you to invite you to the funeral. Ok, so I picked the bad option, and I'm not done with the game yet (doing every single sidequest before finishing act 2), but I'm really hoping that since "the corpos" took his body, I get to fight a cyber-monster Jackie a la Monster Jen from Prey 2006. If I don't, then they should add that as part of the DLC, because it would be 
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Dec 23, 2020 21:56
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Turin Turambar posted:So yeah, of course in practical terms is 'capitalism realism', the game isn't about living in a hippy commune. lol me riding to the sunset with Panam and Judy would like to have a word with you
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Dec 23, 2020 21:58
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Turin Turambar posted:A cool concept they could use is that the AI behind the Black Wall are even more advanced at this point people believe, having evolved in the last decades without supervision. Post singularity, etc. So with their vast intellects they could have found a way to go through the black wall undetected and observe/mess around the real world. It's suggested in the world of cyberpunk book that the blackwall is probably something netwatch had to negotiate with the AIs over and the AIs ultimately agreed to allow, so it could be anything from 'just for show' to 'has deliberate backdoors' to 'just for the "bad" AIs' or any number of other things. It's some cool and flexible lore to be sure
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Dec 23, 2020 21:59
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pretty much. its alot like Witcher 3 where its themes and lessons are more personal and people focused than something with a political ideological view, though it does have those too. Witcher 3 was all about growing up and learning to let go and what makes a good parent and how to be a good partner. cyberpunk is all about that stuff and also about finding redemption is a souless hosed society that makes ours look good.
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Dec 23, 2020 21:59
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exquisite tea posted:It's a crime that Delamain asks you to find seven cars and you can't gently caress a single one of them. Delamain as a romance option in the next DLC pls.
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Dec 23, 2020 21:59
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Magus42 posted:What CDPR statement? I hope you're not talking about that CDPR forum mod from a while back. I saw it referenced in a few articles as an official response via the GOG support forums. I didn't go chase down the thread though. Questionable, then, but still not something to discount out of hand since inventory contents does have impact on save file size. Likely not the only contributing issue.
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Dec 23, 2020 22:00
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The Saddest Robot posted:Delamain as a romance option in the next DLC pls. Cyberpunk 2077 - The Robo-Sexual Agenda It can even add a new ending: V and Johnny merge a la The Delamains.
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Accretionist posted:Cyberpunk 2077 - The Robo-Sexual Agenda I legit thought that's what that option was setting up and was sad when it wasn't an option at the end.
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