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Devils Affricate posted:Sure, but there's a big difference between refusing to answer, and not giving the answers the judge wants. Even in situations where "I do not recall" is obviously bullshit, it's still technically an answer, and when it really comes down to it you can't definitively prove what is or isn't inside someone's head. The best we can really hope for is that they'll break under pressure. That's how I've always thought of it too. Nobody breaks down in court and just confesses to their crimes or lets slip poo poo unless they are a lunatic. What would realistically happen with some human garbage like Manafort when the court pulls him in to testify: -Judge: "Mr. Manafort is it true you sucked the smegma from out of Donald J. Trumps foreskin? I'll remind you that you cannot plead the fifth." :manafort's lawyer whispers in his ear: -Manafort: "I'm aware that Mr. Trumps foreskin was sucked dry of smegma like a vacuum but I cannot recall the date and time nor who slurped the delicious dick cheese."
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January 21, suddenly the GOP will be all about saving money and not taxing our grandchildren and....people will believe them.
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# ? Dec 24, 2020 04:11 |
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:I think you'll find that our sense of "norms" is not broken, there's just a temporary moratorium on giving a poo poo about them. Some I hope to tear up and I hope we don't give a poo poo about them. If the Dems win in Georgia I hope the Senate fries the filibuster so they can push through legislation. Use the VP to neutralize a lot of McConnell's power if they do not get Georgia. I just find the President using the Justice department to let his allies get off or to punish his enemies is one norm that needs to go back in place quickly. Hopefully we can remove the urge to do so by having anyone who broke this norm executed for treason. That would be fun.
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# ? Dec 24, 2020 04:12 |
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Cowslips Warren posted:January 21, suddenly the GOP will be all about saving money and not taxing our grandchildren and....people will believe them. Hopefully they are too busy rioting outside Mar-A-Lago demanding the ex-President invoke the Insurrection Act to hear any of it.
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# ? Dec 24, 2020 04:14 |
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The meme history of 'This is what they actually believe' material needs to be preserved in the Library of Congress This one's me
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# ? Dec 24, 2020 04:20 |
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just a general question for someone who knows: doesn't the spending bill trump just veted still include that thing about not having anonymous shell companies any more and isn't that the real reason he's vetoing it? Cowslips Warren posted:January 21, suddenly the GOP will be all about saving money and not taxing our grandchildren and....people will believe them.
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# ? Dec 24, 2020 04:23 |
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InsertPotPun posted:just a general question for someone who knows: doesn't the spending bill trump just veted still include that thing about not having anonymous shell companies any more and isn't that the real reason he's vetoing it? This is true and is entirely possible. Or, he doesn't understand what any of that poo poo means, and he just wants to lash out at Mitch and the other GOP senators for not supporting his coup. With Trump, the dumber, more base option is usually the right one.
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# ? Dec 24, 2020 04:26 |
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Loling that the president pardoned two of his lackeys. Like I'm loling that it was entirely predictable yet still so freaking brazen. Lol Like, Ollie North took it more and thats saying something. Oscar Wild fucked around with this message at 04:30 on Dec 24, 2020 |
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1341948611131822083?s=09
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# ? Dec 24, 2020 04:29 |
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Trump veoing the defense bill, pardoning the most obviously guilty people he knows, and loving off to Mar a Lago tells me he knows it's over. God just never come back
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# ? Dec 24, 2020 04:30 |
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gently caress you, I'm not watching 9 minutes of this poo poo. Lol
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# ? Dec 24, 2020 04:32 |
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# ? Dec 24, 2020 04:33 |
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I know the real reasons why people voted Donald Trump for president, but at the same time, I can't loving understand why anyone would vote for Donald Trunp for President. He's not smart, he's not traditionally masculine, he isn't devout,, he has no good character traits, he looks like a clown, he ran as a loving democrat like 15 years ago so he's clearly not principled, I just...don't understand. It's actually impressive that he one-upped Bush's presidency to be totally honest, he hosed the US up big time. Lol
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# ? Dec 24, 2020 04:36 |
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Eulogistics posted:I know the real reasons why people voted Donald Trump for president, but at the same time, I can't loving understand why anyone would vote for Donald Trunp for President. He's not smart, he's not traditionally masculine, he isn't devout,, he has no good character traits, he looks like a clown, he ran as a loving democrat like 15 years ago so he's clearly not principled, I just...don't understand. It's actually impressive that he one-upped Bush's presidency to be totally honest, he hosed the US up big time. He got three million less votes than Clinton
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# ? Dec 24, 2020 04:36 |
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* ignores that even if they don't go on to earn more money, they'll have more money to spend/save by virtue of not being saddled with student loans*
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# ? Dec 24, 2020 04:38 |
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Eulogistics posted:I know the real reasons why people voted Donald Trump for president, but at the same time, I can't loving understand why anyone would vote for Donald Trunp for President. He's not smart, he's not traditionally masculine, he isn't devout,, he has no good character traits, he looks like a clown, he ran as a loving democrat like 15 years ago so he's clearly not principled, I just...don't understand. It's actually impressive that he one-upped Bush's presidency to be totally honest, he hosed the US up big time. It's too own the libs/commies/socialists even if it means their own deaths they must own the other. do they still hate secular humamists? I remember that was a thing back in the early 00's
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# ? Dec 24, 2020 04:40 |
Lol just want to shake these people. Trump doesn’t give two shits about you and he’s trying to burn down democracy as best he can (it will fail, but not for lack of effort in his part) and you’re treating him as if he’s some victim. It’s mind blowing.
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# ? Dec 24, 2020 04:41 |
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here's four random rear end points, did I leave anything out?
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# ? Dec 24, 2020 04:45 |
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Where's my pork?
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# ? Dec 24, 2020 04:46 |
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https://twitter.com/BillCorbett/status/1341946345419108358
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# ? Dec 24, 2020 04:53 |
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Is it Mueller Time yet??
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# ? Dec 24, 2020 05:05 |
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Dissapointed Owl posted:Is it Mueller Time yet?? Let's check the Mueller Countdown! (Clock reads -652 days) oh. Oh no
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# ? Dec 24, 2020 05:07 |
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Exciting times, America! https://twitter.com/alexthomp/status/1341881017489973248?s=21
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# ? Dec 24, 2020 05:08 |
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Dissapointed Owl posted:Exciting times, America! Way to ruin Christmas
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# ? Dec 24, 2020 05:09 |
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if trump's attempts to reform US libel/defamation laws due to his extremely thin skin had gone through I'd be way more optimistic about republicans actually facing consequences for their seditious bullshit, oddly enough. https://twitter.com/GelberLaw/status/1341601621885792257
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# ? Dec 24, 2020 05:10 |
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Legitimate question, has there ever been a precedent of someone receiving a pardon and then somehow getting boned on not being able to plea the fifth? To me it just sounds like another this time the system will work before nothing happening for the millionth time.
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# ? Dec 24, 2020 05:11 |
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Trump being sued by a Coomer lol
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# ? Dec 24, 2020 05:11 |
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Dissapointed Owl posted:Exciting times, America! Dems on bipartisanship: Fool me once, okay please don't do that again. Fool me twice, I still have hope you won't do it a third time. Fool me three times, alright that's enough! I give up just keep fooling me!
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# ? Dec 24, 2020 05:17 |
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Response to point 1: They committed crimes. They used their positions in government to steal public money from the government. Ivanka and Jared shouldn't have even been involved in the administration in any capacity in the first place, so... yeah, that's a self-own on their part. Response to point 2: What he calls "normal" religious people have really showed that everything they claim to value, and indeed everything they rigidly demand from the rest of us peons, is ultimately fungible. I'd say the only real and consistent value they seem to have is being anti-abortion, but even that's marred by hypocrisy because of the way they stood by while Trump forcibly removed children from their parents and imprisoned them separately - and in some cases placed them for adoption without their parents' consent! These people love hypothetical - and in the case of QAnon, FICTIONAL - children, but when it comes to real children, they have displayed a type of callousness and cruelty that makes it impossible to take their concerns about the well-being of "the unborn" seriously. Religious people being revealed as hypocrites is a trope and a cliche, but the entire American religious-conservative complex just demonstrated that it's true on a massive scale that cannot realistically be denied. GRAB 'EM BY THE PUSSY, RAW-DOG A PORNSTAR, CHEAT ON YOUR WIFE, BUT NO SEX BEFORE MARRIAGE, AND DEFINITELY DO NEVER BE GAY!!!!
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# ? Dec 24, 2020 05:19 |
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Heath posted:Let's check the Mueller Countdown! (Clock reads -652 days) oh. Oh no
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# ? Dec 24, 2020 05:20 |
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bipartisanship means that they'll use one republican hand and one democrat hand when they pull you balls clean off
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# ? Dec 24, 2020 05:23 |
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TheAardvark posted:bipartisanship means that they'll use one republican hand and one democrat hand when they pull you balls clean off But at least the democrat as he/she has a deathgrip on one of my nuts will be half heartedly whispering lies in my ear to try and comfort me that they tried to fight for my balls but in the end couldn't get the republicans to come to the table to save my balls and there was nothing they could do!
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# ? Dec 24, 2020 05:32 |
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free hubcaps posted:if trump's attempts to reform US libel/defamation laws due to his extremely thin skin had gone through I'd be way more optimistic about republicans actually facing consequences for their seditious bullshit, oddly enough. Only the Trump campaign has the funds to settle out of court. Think they'll be magnanimous enough to cover Rudy and Sidney? cracker posted:Legitimate question, has there ever been a precedent of someone receiving a pardon and then somehow getting boned on not being able to plea the fifth? To me it just sounds like another this time the system will work before nothing happening for the millionth time. Nope. Also, nothing so brazen as what Trump has done (so far), though. Ford pardoned Nixon pretty broadly, but that was a "gently caress it, let's just get him out of here!" move. I doubt Nixon would have resigned without it being promised. George H.W. Bush pardoned a bunch of Iran/Contra people. That's probably closest to Trump in that it was organized crime, but many people would classify it as different and under the umbrella of "national security." (Was it really, though?) Bill Clinton pardoned Marc Rich - that was the most blatantly inappropriate pardon, in that it was basically done for a bribe. Still, history may look at the Iran/Contra pardon as worse/more consequential. George W. Bush commuted Scooter Libby's sentence as soon as he was convicted. This was pretty hosed up. And that was a compromise, Cheney wanted him pardoned. So far Trump has pardoned people for being Fox News celebrities (Joe Arpaio, Dinesh D'Souza), pardoned war criminals that the military did not want pardoned, pardoned personal friends and campaign workers with ties to international organized crime, pardoned two convicted Republican congressmen just because they supported him, and pardoned people related to him (Kushner's dad). He pardoned Joe Arpaio before he served his sentenced, and he commuted Roger Stone's sentence before he served it (and then just now pardoned him in the end). So at this point, the only things Trump hasn't done is obviously pardon someone in exchange for campaign funds (like Clinton), and issue a blanket pardon that preemptively covers "all crimes" from such-and-such date to another date (Ford to Nixon). We know that the FBI is investigating someone who attempted to exchange a bribe for a pardon, and I'm going to guess they stopped it before Trump was able to go through with it. As for the blanket "all crimes between X and Y" or whatever, that's probably coming for Jared and Ivanka at the very least, if not others. SO - Trump is super dirty and VERY PROLIFIC with his corrupt pardons.
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# ? Dec 24, 2020 05:33 |
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TheAardvark posted:bipartisanship means that they'll use one republican hand and one democrat hand when they pull you balls clean off Can't tear off by balls if I've been howling them off into space laughing for the past four years.
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# ? Dec 24, 2020 05:34 |
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There have been a lot of great donald.win dumps thanks to mr. ice cream glove...but I’m waiting for the ones after noon on jan. 20th when Trump is still in Florida golfing and these idiots (mostly) finally realize he has completely abandoned them.
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# ? Dec 24, 2020 05:44 |
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T_D saying that hostility to normal, religious people is... interesting. Do they mean their idea of who the normally religious person is? Or do they mean normal people and religious people? Cause if there's one thing that's become very clear, it's that normal society hates Trump and wants nothing to do with him. That's the point of all their cultural grievance, that right wing beliefs are becoming increasingly deviant. It's why they embrace the idea that they're a counter-culture and the new punk, the new rebels. That they're the most annoying and reprehensible parts of society doesn't escape them, a big part of that website is coping with ostracization. It's where their fear comes from, that people are sick of them and they all know it. It's why Trump is their avatar, he has no respectable friends or contacts and he's a huge rear end in a top hat all the time, but people are forced to deal with him, and they like the idea that they get to force other people to deal with them rather than accept they're being annoying, reprehensible, and society is really sick of them. If Trump can be kicked out(he was) and face consequences(he theoretically can, and NY is going hard), so can they. And it's a lot easier to live in a reality where everyone is forced to deal with you than change yourself to become someone who isn't shunned.
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# ? Dec 24, 2020 05:49 |
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https://twitter.com/willsommer/status/1341967926744801280?s=20
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# ? Dec 24, 2020 05:51 |
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That's worth a barrel of LOL's.
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# ? Dec 24, 2020 05:55 |
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You've activated my Pence Card!! What's it do? (Door slams as Pence leaves the room)
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lol just day after day of these dopes getting mad at the stories they invented
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