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Jimbot posted:Just a general observation. Most Snyder people I see tend to be on twitter and a few of them outright dismiss folks bringing up Gal Gadot's service in the IDF by claiming she was just a fitness instructor, as if that's any kind of defense. The only time you mention Twitter in your post is in regards to Taylor Swift. You should edit it to reflect your clarification or at least try and engage with the thread instead of bringing up the Twitter weirdos. ruddiger fucked around with this message at 01:49 on Dec 27, 2020 |
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WW84 was definitely uncomfortable for me politically and not very good generally IMO. For someone not in the know what's up with Patty Jenkins?
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Darko posted:Yeah I was so confused; it was like Jenkins was using that for temp music, and just kept it? Literally all I could think of is that Zimmer is using that for every flashback in the DCEU or something now. https://twitter.com/PattyJenks/status/1342991922856558592 lol
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# ? Dec 27, 2020 01:37 |
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I don’t care about Gadot’s personal life, and Wonder Woman 2 looks like poo poo.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:I don’t care about Gadot’s personal life, and Wonder Woman 2 looks like poo poo. B b b but you are DC/Snyder was producing!
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ruddiger posted:The only time you mention Twitter in your post is in regards to Taylor Swift. You should edit it to reflect your clarification or at least try and engage with the thread instead of bringing up the Twitter weirdos. Don't worry about it. SuperMechagodzilla posted:I dont care about Gadots personal life, and Wonder Woman 2 looks like poo poo. What on earth were they doing with all that extra time? Movie was set to be released at the end of last year.
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:I don’t care about Gadot’s personal life, and Wonder Woman 2 looks like poo poo. her service in the IDF is kind of relevant considering the film recreates the murder of four kids by the IDF, except she's the good guy and saves them.
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Jimbot posted:Don't worry about it. You should do the same. Twitter is not good for one’s mental health. Anyways, 300 talk reminded me of this sweet little bit from Ebert’s review of the movie https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/300-2006 quote:But to return to those muscles. Although real actors play the characters and their faces are convincing, I believe their bodies are almost entirely digital creations. They have Schwarzeneggerian biceps, and every last one of them, even the greybeards, wear well-defined six- packs on their abs. I can almost believe the star, Gerard Butler, may have been working out at Gold's Gym ever since he starred as the undernourished Phantom of the Opera, but not 300, 200 or even 100 extras. As a result, every single time I regarded the Spartans in a group, I realized I was seeing artistic renderings, not human beings. Maybe, Roger. Maybe.
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I just watched it, I liked it. Pascal was super good.
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Hodgepodge posted:her service in the IDF is kind of relevant considering the film recreates the murder of four kids by the IDF, except she's the good guy and saves them. Is this legit
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Horizon Burning posted:Is this legit At one point WW catches a ride on a missile to rescue a couple of Arab kids who are too distracted by their soccer game to get out of the way of a military convoy she's fighting. I don't actually think anyone was intentionally referencing that time the IDF shot a missile at children playing soccer on a Gaza beach, but it is closeish.
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Patrick Spens posted:At one point WW catches a ride on a missile to rescue a couple of Arab kids who are too distracted by their soccer game to get out of the way of a military convoy she's fighting. I don't actually think anyone was intentionally referencing that time the IDF shot a missile at children playing soccer on a Gaza beach, but it is closeish. they sure pulled the clips fast for a nothingburger the film also features an arab leader who wishes for his country back and all the colonizers gone. his wish is granted and the whole thing is surrounded by an impassible wall. this leads to bad things. i'm not prepared to give this the benefit of the doubt e: a surviving edit: https://mobile.twitter.com/LK_Compu...4widget%3DTweet Hodgepodge fucked around with this message at 05:40 on Dec 27, 2020 |
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They wouldn't be DMCAing these clips if it weren't the case
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Is this literally just Prosperity Gospel: The Movie
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crossposting this nice summary from the cspam pop culture thread:gradenko_2000 posted:it's already been mentioned that that child rescue scene is an inversion and revision of history given that that was filmed at the same beach where the IDF murdered Palestinian children in real life, but then also there's:
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I think I'd rather have boring ol Beavis instead guys
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Wouldn't the eventual elimination of that wall and resulting relief for the people regaining access to the water (and the city/country at large) be a rebuke of other countries' use of walls as population control?
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Space Fish posted:Wouldn't the eventual elimination of that wall and resulting relief for the people regaining access to the water (and the city/country at large) be a rebuke of other countries' use of walls as population control? if the movie had jewish people in the 1930s conspire to put germans in concentration camps and then wonder women freed them, would that be a rebuke of genocide? of course not. it would literally be nazi propaganda. you can't just reverse the actors and moral culpability and pretend it's all okay. if i punch you and then write a story in which you punched me, i'm not rebuking the idea of violence, i'm blaming the victim. e: although in this case it would be closer to the jewish people putting themselves in camps Hodgepodge fucked around with this message at 06:45 on Dec 27, 2020 |
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Wonder Woman 1984 Writer: Not Zack Snyder Story by: Not Zack Snyder Director: Not Zack Snyder Cinematography: Not Zack Snyder Starring: Not Zack Snyder Take this poo poo to the Pattydome.
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# ? Dec 27, 2020 06:42 |
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Or in this case, Bialyan propaganda. What's their fictional track record on the world stage?
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ruddiger posted:Wonder Woman 1984 Produced by Zack Snyder
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CelticPredator posted:Produced by Zack Snyder 1 of 16 producers, drat, you got him.
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Didn’t know I was getting him
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CelticPredator posted:Didn’t know I was getting him So why not mention the other 15 producers? E: it’s really 16 producers including Deborah Snyder, and since this this is the Snyderdome I roller her into Zack’s involvement, but I’m acknowledging both of their involvement for the sake of transparency. ruddiger fucked around with this message at 06:59 on Dec 27, 2020 |
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Because I think it’s fair for people itt to discuss Wonder Woman 1984
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Not a whole lotta discussion regarding producing among 16 others that I can see but keep believing the dream, friend. E: at least teagone acknowledged Geoff John’s involvement, which is a lot more than I can say about the guy who erased Patty Jenkins role in the film. E2: I’m not fixing the name misspelling because gently caress Geoff Johns. ruddiger fucked around with this message at 07:33 on Dec 27, 2020 |
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ReleaseTheJenkinsCut!
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# ? Dec 27, 2020 07:34 |
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I kind of agree that this shouldn't be treated as the DC Cinematic Universe Thread for DC Cinematic Universe Films Enjoyers.
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Jimbot posted:ReleaseTheJenkinsCut! Release the Snyders' Cut
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Nothing about the movie WW84 or the timeline under which it was made suggests Zack and Deborah’s credit is anything more than a carryover from casting Gal in the first place and introducing the character, and being involved in the development of the first one. The way Spielberg still gets credits on Transformers movies he clearly has had zero involvement with.
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# ? Dec 27, 2020 07:43 |
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this thread breaks out into dceu chat pretty frequently and even if we all drop it, it will do so again and you probably won't complain unless it rubs you the wrong way for whatever arbitrary reason it does this time.
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Snyder is the grandaddy of the DCEU, as such, I think any DCEU film talk is fair game ITT imo.
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I really enjoyed Zack Snyder’s Shazam, almost as much as George Lucas’ new show, the Mandalorian.
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teagone posted:Snyder is the grandaddy of the DCEU, as such, I think any DCEU film talk is fair game ITT imo. Yep. Sorry but this is the rules.
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# ? Dec 27, 2020 08:39 |
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Patty Jenkins isn’t a good director. I’ll say it
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The REAL Goobusters posted:Patty Jenkins isn’t a good director. I’ll say it
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Jimbot posted:Speaking of which, judging from the WW84 thread, that film has the kind of overt politics youtube and twitter people thinks Zack Snyder and his films have. That thread so far has very little actual criticism of the movie. Most of it is the usual confusion of characterization for plot holes, tactical realism about magic powers, this hilariously atrocious comic was much better, etc. Granted, the politics do sound pretty bad, assuming those interpretations are accurate.
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The REAL Goobusters posted:Patty Jenkins isn’t a good director. I’ll say it I wouldn’t say she’s bad, but based off this I can believe her having what I think of as the Schumacher Problem: the more money you give them and the less oversight, the more they indulge themselves, and the movie suffers for it. Sometimes it works out and people find an ironic appreciation, most of the time you go “oh right, they made that movie, I forgot it existed... I remember it kinda sucking now that you brought it up, though”. Some people do more with less. Not everyone can squeeze a dollar onto the screen the way James Cameron does no matter how much you give him. There used to be a bit more of a filtering system called the “mid budget movie” where directors could teeth themselves on bigger budgets without going “this is equivalent to having infinity dollars” compared to their last movie, but now that just seems equally likely to get you stuck on the Netflix hamster wheel.
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# ? Dec 27, 2020 09:30 |
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my criticism is it should have been gayer
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She made one good movie in 2003 (monster, I guess), spent a decade on random tv show pilots and show running and then made Wonder Woman which was mid at best and even then that might be too much praise for that first movie. Just not an interesting director! This movie proved it to me. E: by bad direction I mean bad direction. Dialogue scenes in the movie were just so wooden and boring, the action scenes all sucked and felt like they had no weight at all except for the one fight in the White House. Movie introduces so many characters and develops none of them.
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