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Ad by Khad
Jul 25, 2007

Human Garbage
Watch me try to laugh this title off like the dickbag I am.

I also hang out with racists.
non-international transfers have been free for like 15 years here, btc had nothing to do with it

quote:

"I'm waiting for the day that one of these regulators comes down hard on bitcoin. Grown men are going to weep when that happens. You'll never see a loss of capital like that ever in your life. It will be brutal," he said.
O'Leary added: "This whole market, even if Bitcoin were to go up, another 2000% is completely irrelevant to the institutional client."

Kevin O'Leary doesn't have actual power to dictate canadian fiscal policy but this is about where canada stands on it and has stood on it and was correct in doing so resulting in us getting to laugh at all the Quadriga morons getting their bits coin stolen

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Gobbeldygook
May 13, 2009
Hates Native American people and tries to justify their genocides.

Put this racist on ignore immediately!

divabot posted:

that's a terrible lying nocoiner lie and you should be ashamed of yourself !!

it;s also too many questions about where their cp money came from
The urban institute put out a mostly bad and stupid report about the underground commercial sex economy (asking cops "do you think things are bad?" is not research) but chapter 9 is a dive into child pornography. Based on interviews with convicts, child pornography (which is referred to as "the hobby") is like a bleak version of the Warez scene.

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
🧙🐀🧹🌙🪄🐸

Flawless Victory posted:

Nah, I'm saying they had some weight back in the summer of 2015, after mt gox crashed btc from $1,100 down to ~$160 and I was hodling at a loss for a few months (I went all in at $255). These days your arguments are a sad joke. You lost this battle a long time ago, you just lack the self-awareness to realize it and/or the humility to accept your utter, total defeat.
What do you think my arguments are and when do you think they will be/were refuted?

Somfin
Oct 25, 2010

In my🦚 experience🛠️ the big things🌑 don't teach you anything🤷‍♀️.

Nap Ghost
The cp issue is one of the big things that breaks btc. With normal money that exists, each dollar is its own object and you don't inherit the legacy of everything that dollar has been used for. A dollar is just a dollar.

Btc has child porn in its history and in order to use it you have to be okay with that.

kw0134
Apr 19, 2003

I buy feet pics🍆

Splicer posted:

What do you think my arguments are and when do you think they will be/were refuted?
Look, you nocoiner, number go up and that proves buttcoins are correct and good forever

Ad by Khad
Jul 25, 2007

Human Garbage
Watch me try to laugh this title off like the dickbag I am.

I also hang out with racists.

Somfin posted:

The cp issue is one of the big things that breaks btc. With normal money that exists, each dollar is its own object and you don't inherit the legacy of everything that dollar has been used for. A dollar is just a dollar.

Btc has child porn in its history and in order to use it you have to be okay with that.

not only do you have to be ok with btc's bad uses in the past, you have to be ok with btc's bad uses in the future, since no one involved in bitcoin has done anything/will do anything to stop this. the only reason btc is used less often for bad purchases now than before is because of a competing altcoin stealing the spotlight.

what happens when a competing altcoin/something else steals the spotlight for btc's other purposes? bitcoin becomes myspace

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Rectal Death Adept
Jun 20, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
Have any of you fools considered that bitcoin is worth more money today?

Also China Railway Group Limited (CRWOF) is currently up eleven thousand percent today. Other things are up only some percent. But China Railway Group Limited is up more percent. That means whatever it is will revolutionize the world and being worth more money proves it is better than everything else.

Amazon is only up 3.5% today. China Railway Group Limited is up 3000 times more better.

Rectal Death Adept fucked around with this message at 22:11 on Dec 28, 2020

Gobbeldygook
May 13, 2009
Hates Native American people and tries to justify their genocides.

Put this racist on ignore immediately!

Ad by Khad posted:

not only do you have to be ok with btc's bad uses in the past, you have to be ok with btc's bad uses in the future, since no one involved in bitcoin has done anything/will do anything to stop this. the only reason btc is used less often for bad purchases now than before is because of a competing altcoin stealing the spotlight.

what happens when a competing altcoin/something else steals the spotlight for btc's other purposes? bitcoin becomes myspace
I don't think there will be another Bitcoin. Bitcoin will be the first and final Bitcoin. You can design cryptocurrencies that are better in various ways (e.g. the greatest joke about Dogecoin is that it's not a joke and is better than Bitcoin), but they're not going to replace Bitcoin. Bitcoin will be the subject of endless pump and dump schemes, drawing in the zaurg's and CNBC's of the world again before inevitably crashing once more, over and over like a Hindu parable. Decades from now libertarians will still be penning screeds about how they're going to use Bitcoin on their seastead and one day the rest of us will bow and scrape before them when our FIAT money system collapses exactly as they prophesied, just you wait.

John_A_Tallon
Nov 22, 2000

Oh my! Check out that mitre!

Gobbeldygook posted:

I don't think there will be another Bitcoin. Bitcoin will be the first and final Bitcoin. You can design cryptocurrencies that are better in various ways (e.g. the greatest joke about Dogecoin is that it's not a joke and is better than Bitcoin), but they're not going to replace Bitcoin. Bitcoin will be the subject of endless pump and dump schemes, drawing in the zaurg's and CNBC's of the world again before inevitably crashing once more, over and over like a Hindu parable. Decades from now libertarians will still be penning screeds about how they're going to use Bitcoin on their seastead and one day the rest of us will bow and scrape before them when our FIAT money system collapses exactly as they prophesied, just you wait.

Counter-argument: e-gold.

Rectal Death Adept
Jun 20, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

Gobbeldygook posted:

I don't think there will be another Bitcoin. Bitcoin will be the first and final Bitcoin. You can design cryptocurrencies that are better in various ways (e.g. the greatest joke about Dogecoin is that it's not a joke and is better than Bitcoin), but they're not going to replace Bitcoin. Bitcoin will be the subject of endless pump and dump schemes, drawing in the zaurg's and CNBC's of the world again before inevitably crashing once more, over and over like a Hindu parable. Decades from now libertarians will still be penning screeds about how they're going to use Bitcoin on their seastead and one day the rest of us will bow and scrape before them when our FIAT money system collapses exactly as they prophesied, just you wait.

This will definitely be true unless there is actually a use case for any cryptocurrency at some point. Bitcoin is propped up by nothing but name recognition in a market of thousands of useless cryptocurrencies. It was the first, and it is "The Cryptocurrency." Anyone looking to get into cryptocurrency hears "Bitcoin" first and foremost. It's name has become synonymous with cryptocurrency. That's why it doesn't matter that almost every coin made after Bitcoin is objectively better at everything it tries to do.

If somehow, at some point, Shitcoin X (SHTX) magically is useful and actually has a point to where people are trading it for a purpose then bitcoin would be immediately irrelevant and the cryptocurrency "market" would be dominated by whatever people were actually trading. Then SHTX would be "The Cryptocurrency" and bitcoin would be a dwindling forgotten relic traded by idiot true believers that can't handle the fact their currency was never actually worth anything other than the brand it carried.

Seriously. If a real company or bank ever created their own crypto bitcoin would be over with. Despite the pedophiles and internet intellectuals that think they would just adopt Bitcoin for some reason. Amazon would just make BezoBucks that you can earn by using amazon devices and spend on their services. They aren't going to put up with their customers waiting days for a $50 transaction to maybe go through on the pedophile's currency of choice they have no control over.

Gobbeldygook
May 13, 2009
Hates Native American people and tries to justify their genocides.

Put this racist on ignore immediately!

John_A_Tallon posted:

Counter-argument: e-gold.
e-gold, pecunix, etc were centralized and could be shut down by kicking in one door. Bitcoin could be crippled by cracking down on on-boarding/exit ramps, limiting it's use to serious weirdos, but completely shutting down the network probably isn't possible without unprecedented global cooperation.

Ad by Khad
Jul 25, 2007

Human Garbage
Watch me try to laugh this title off like the dickbag I am.

I also hang out with racists.

Rectal Death Adept posted:

Seriously. If a real company or bank ever created their own crypto bitcoin would be over with. Despite the pedophiles and internet intellectuals that think they would just adopt Bitcoin for some reason. Amazon would just make BezoBucks that you can earn by using amazon devices and spend on their services. They aren't going to put up with their customers waiting days for a $50 transaction to maybe go through on the pedophile's currency of choice they have no control over.

Facebook wants to do this, but their first attempt was done in a really horribly stupid way and regulators were like "lol no"

It's not a maybe that some sort of digital money will become popular, but it's not going to be bitcoin for many reasons, the biggest of which is Satoshi can come back at any moment and annihilate the market into dust by selling a million+ btc in one shot. As the years have gone by, the number of people who could "annihilate the market into dust" has grown larger and larger, and there are now dozens of people who could dump five digits literally this second if they wanted. They won't because it will destroy the confidence scam, but that's no way for a currency to operate.

If you wanted to compare it to actual forex trading, imagine Jeff Bezos turns on his laptop and decides to instantly sell 400 trillion USD. This is what Satoshi is able to do to bitcoin, right now. He is not the only one who can gently caress the system to death in an instant in this way.

edit: there were a few big hodlers that did threaten to do this back when they were fighting over fork drama, I know Roger Ver and Jihan Wu were two, but ultimately they did not. Roger Ver being a coward comes as a surprise to no one

Ad by Khad fucked around with this message at 23:26 on Dec 28, 2020

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004


Out here, everything hurts.




Just a reminder kids, it's almost time for the Dickening!

http://dickening.com/

https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/935900326007328768

Tick tick, Mcafee.

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
🧙🐀🧹🌙🪄🐸
2nice09.00

Crime on a Dime
Nov 28, 2006
wont somebody think of the banks

ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016

Liquid Communism posted:

Just a reminder kids, it's almost time for the Dickening!

http://dickening.com/

https://twitter.com/officialmcafee/status/935900326007328768

Tick tick, Mcafee.



clearly he's talking about market cap, so obviously he won't have to eat his own dick.

or he'll make some home made spotted dick, whatever the hell that is

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






I think he said something about him not meaning that he himself would eat his dick. If course he meant he would have a hooker "eat" his dick.

Liquid Communism
Mar 9, 2004


Out here, everything hurts.




Either way he's in jail in Spain awaiting extradition on tax evasion charges, so...

Pyromancer
Apr 29, 2011

This man must look upon the fire, smell of it, warm his hands by it, stare into its heart

Liquid Communism posted:

Either way he's in jail in Spain awaiting extradition on tax evasion charges, so...

His dick is in the same jail, so it shouldn't be a problem

Fatkraken
Jun 23, 2005

Fun-time is over.
Unfortunately, the official bet was on biRcoin hitting one million, not bitcoin. He just has to name a limited company Bircoin and give it one million in assets

EorayMel
May 30, 2015

WE GET IT. YOU LOVE GUN JESUS. Toujours des fusils Bullpup Français.
Didn't McAfee already make the same bet and then go "lol no didn't count because :actually: " like 3 years ago?

Waltzing Along
Jun 14, 2008

There's only one
Human race
Many faces
Everybody belongs here
Where has this massive influx of $$ into BTC come from in the last month? Wall Street? Tether?

It can't be normal people because normal people don't have tons of $ to throw in the garbage on a gamble right now.

Ad by Khad
Jul 25, 2007

Human Garbage
Watch me try to laugh this title off like the dickbag I am.

I also hang out with racists.
There are a few scummo capitalist firms like SkyBridge using the crazy euphoria in the markets rn to try to fleece retail investors into getting into btc the same way they try to fleece anyone into buying any finance product they can. Bitcoin is basically being treated like a techbro stock

Scaramucci in particular has been using his position at CNN to make a lot of noise about btc, he founded SkyBridge, it's kind of identical to how Ron Paul would argue for the gold standard because he was heavily invested in gold

orange juche
Mar 14, 2012



Waltzing Along posted:

Where has this massive influx of $$ into BTC come from in the last month? Wall Street? Tether?

It can't be normal people because normal people don't have tons of $ to throw in the garbage on a gamble right now.

Tether

Rectal Death Adept
Jun 20, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

Waltzing Along posted:

Where has this massive influx of $$ into BTC come from in the last month? Wall Street? Tether?

It can't be normal people because normal people don't have tons of $ to throw in the garbage on a gamble right now.

bitcoins key demo was never normal people. It has always been overpaid computer janitors that have four figures of disposable income, per month, to throw around.

That unique composition of stupidity and falling rear end backwards into six figure salaries has been the primary driver behind most of bitcoins actual involved money. Not fake stuff like market manipulations on Mt.Gox or tether printing or whatever.

I'd bet that a bunch of Tesla stock profits, since it's up 700% this year, have been plowed into bitcoin by the type of person that thinks both of those things are good ideas and got lucky.

John_A_Tallon
Nov 22, 2000

Oh my! Check out that mitre!

Gobbeldygook posted:

e-gold, pecunix, etc were centralized and could be shut down by kicking in one door. Bitcoin could be crippled by cracking down on on-boarding/exit ramps, limiting it's use to serious weirdos, but completely shutting down the network probably isn't possible without unprecedented global cooperation.

It barely works now. Crippling it is all that's needed to make it less attractive than the next big criminal thing.

TruthAboutTether
Dec 29, 2020

by Fluffdaddy
The idea that tether will cause Bitcoin to collapse is one of those half-baked conspiracies that is an unholy spawn born from parents of paranoia and shitcoin propaganda. There was a lawsuit here in the US where one of the gov agencies, I forget which, sued bitfinex (who issues tether) for issuing unbacked tether loans to itself.

Following that lawsuit, it was revealed tether only had a backing of 74%. Bitfenix was basically printing their own money out of nowhere and then using that to purchase Bitcoin. They were ordered to stop that and carried on with their business.

Some people believe if tether were to collapse, for some reason bitcoin would too. This conspiracy revolves around th eidea there is no real demand for Bitcoin, it's all just tether and bitfinex making up money and pumping it.

Some people believe that if tether were to collapse, for some reason bitcoin would too. This conspiracy stems from the fallacious idea there is no real demand for Bitcoin, it's all just tether and Bitfinex making up money and pumping it. This is obviously absurd on its face, there is a ton of bitcoin demand, and were tether to fail people (who formerly held tether) would run TO bitcoin, not away from it.

TruthAboutTether
Dec 29, 2020

by Fluffdaddy

John_A_Tallon posted:

It barely works now. Crippling it is all that's needed to make it less attractive than the next big criminal thing.
Uh huh.



Looks like it's working just fine to me. In fact, it appears to be growing and maturing by the month.

gary oldmans diary
Sep 26, 2005
my outputs! very glad that it was 2014 in 2014 though


https://i.imgur.com/W1uOJPU.mp4

gary oldmans diary fucked around with this message at 22:25 on Dec 29, 2020

Flowers for QAnon
May 20, 2019

TruthAboutTether posted:

The idea that tether will cause Bitcoin to collapse is one of those half-baked conspiracies that is an unholy spawn born from parents of paranoia and shitcoin propaganda. There was a lawsuit here in the US where one of the gov agencies, I forget which, sued bitfinex (who issues tether) for issuing unbacked tether loans to itself.

Following that lawsuit, it was revealed tether only had a backing of 74%. Bitfenix was basically printing their own money out of nowhere and then using that to purchase Bitcoin. They were ordered to stop that and carried on with their business.

Some people believe if tether were to collapse, for some reason bitcoin would too. This conspiracy revolves around th eidea there is no real demand for Bitcoin, it's all just tether and bitfinex making up money and pumping it.

Some people believe that if tether were to collapse, for some reason bitcoin would too. This conspiracy stems from the fallacious idea there is no real demand for Bitcoin, it's all just tether and Bitfinex making up money and pumping it. This is obviously absurd on its face, there is a ton of bitcoin demand, and were tether to fail people (who formerly held tether) would run TO bitcoin, not away from it.

Yeah, that court case is still going on. The SDNY is going to wreak them.

Dewgy
Nov 10, 2005

~🚚special delivery~📦
i have less than no idea how the hell i’m supposed to read that graph, but it looks drat cool

Ad by Khad
Jul 25, 2007

Human Garbage
Watch me try to laugh this title off like the dickbag I am.

I also hang out with racists.

Ghost titty strikes again

TruthAboutTether
Dec 29, 2020

by Fluffdaddy
Bitcoin can't be stopped. Nothing can kill it. Some of us have known that for 7 years, and acted accordingly:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-NwFOAS0ZA

And we've been very, very richly rewarded for our foresight.

TruthAboutTether fucked around with this message at 22:31 on Dec 29, 2020

TruthAboutTether
Dec 29, 2020

by Fluffdaddy

Flowers for QAnon posted:

Yeah, that court case is still going on. The SDNY is going to wreak them.
Good! I hope they do, one less shitcoin parasatically siphoning wealth away from the financial singularity!

John_A_Tallon
Nov 22, 2000

Oh my! Check out that mitre!

TruthAboutTether posted:

Uh huh.



Looks like it's working just fine to me. In fact, it appears to be growing and maturing by the month.

That graph is something an insane person would believe in, and something a scammer would make.

gary oldmans diary
Sep 26, 2005
:rolleyes:

Flawless Victory posted:

I went all in at $255
dude who got in on the known pyramid scheme we had already been mocking it for years thinks he has keen insight. getting in at 255 just makes you look like a moron from both ends

EorayMel
May 30, 2015

WE GET IT. YOU LOVE GUN JESUS. Toujours des fusils Bullpup Français.
Seraph84 is going to lose interest in bitcoin in 8 years, don't worry

TruthAboutTether
Dec 29, 2020

by Fluffdaddy

gary oldmans diary posted:

dude who got in on the known pyramid scheme we had already been mocking it for years thinks he has keen insight. getting in at 255 just makes you look like a moron from both ends
Oh, you cut me deep.

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
🧙🐀🧹🌙🪄🐸

TruthAboutTether posted:

Uh huh.



Looks like it's working just fine to me. In fact, it appears to be growing and maturing by the month.
Define "spent"

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gary oldmans diary
Sep 26, 2005
if youre falling back to an "but i still have some money" gif in stead of having any defense of your intelligence then apparently so

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