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Well this is unreadable now because everyone has their own pet twitter personality and they all have the same general level of authority and respectability but they're all saying different things.
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Jan 3, 2021 20:21
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Thorn Wishes Talon posted:When the vaccines were announced in... late November? all my friends were like "oh great, we will be back to normal by late Spring!" We’re already over 500k administered per day, so we’d have to slow down from here to only do 30 million by March.
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Jan 3, 2021 20:24
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Regarde Aduck posted:Well this is unreadable now because everyone has their own pet twitter personality and they all have the same general level of authority and respectability but they're all saying different things. yeah just skimming these 'threads ' makes me understand that some dudes are mutating the virus on purpose to simulate vaccination techniques versus a mutated virus when he should be knocking on old folks doors and stabbing them in the arm
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Jan 3, 2021 20:27
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Thorn Wishes Talon posted:When the vaccines were announced in... late November? all my friends were like "oh great, we will be back to normal by late Spring!" I'm hoping it ramps up once Biden is in office. It's pretty apparent Trump is dragging his feet on literally everything considering that all the places with the vaccine have no marching orders or really anything.
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Jan 3, 2021 20:39
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Buckwheat Sings posted:I'm hoping it ramps up once Biden is in office. It's pretty apparent Trump is dragging his feet on literally everything considering that all the places with the vaccine have no marching orders or really anything. I also hope that, but Biden hasn't really stated any actual plan to ramp up vaccine delivery, his "we'll deliver 100 million doses" promise is about par for where we're going to be at anyway and a lot of non-Trump poo poo is also driving the car into one tree after another. E.g., the Democratic governor of NY just threatened to fine medical staff a million dollars and strip them of their licenses if they put a needle in the wrong arm.
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The Oldest Man posted:I also hope that, but Biden hasn't really stated any actual plan to ramp up vaccine delivery, his "we'll deliver 100 million doses" promise is about par for where we're going to be at anyway and a lot of non-Trump poo poo is also driving the car into one tree after another. E.g., the Democratic governor of NY just threatened to fine medical staff a million dollars and strip them of their licenses if they put a needle in the wrong arm. yea I have no idea why anyone thinks Biden will improve this, he's released no plan other than a vague 'just do it' thing which is basically the Trump plan. He has no solution to the looming issue of 'what's going to happen if millions of vaccine doses go bad before we can even give them to anyone because we have no top level support and vague 'uh give it to people who, ya know, REALLY need it first' and bullshit like 'if you give those vaccines to elderly people before I say you may I'll fine you' resulting from it.
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Jan 3, 2021 20:58
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Regarde Aduck posted:Well this is unreadable now because everyone has their own pet twitter personality and they all have the same general level of authority and respectability but they're all saying different things. A thread rule against embedding Twitter posts might be a good idea. It's doomsayers cancelling out anti-doomsayers and nothing is gained.
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Jan 3, 2021 20:59
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That's not accurate, parts of the plan were in the press briefing. https://twitter.com/Transition46/status/1344021204265558018?s=20 Here is the transcript: https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/joe-biden-speech-transcript-on-covid-19-vaccination-efforts-falling-far-behind But it's more concisely laid out in the COVID-19 section of the Transition website here: https://buildbackbetter.gov/priorities/covid-19/ It includes specifics such as: quote:Stand up a Pandemic Testing Board like Roosevelt’s War Production Board. It’s how we produced tanks, planes, uniforms, and supplies in record time, and it’s how we will produce and distribute tens of millions of tests.
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Jan 3, 2021 21:03
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LifeLynx posted:A thread rule against embedding Twitter posts might be a good idea. It's doomsayers cancelling out anti-doomsayers and nothing is gained. Or you can always, you know, click the tweet, look at the author's credentials and read the follow-ups. Embedding is a useful way to summarize information.
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That's cool, but we were talking about vaccine delivery.
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These stories are going to continue to come at a 1:1 ratio of terrible rollout states and otherwise I bet
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Jan 3, 2021 21:14
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Jealous Cow posted:We’re already over 500k administered per day, so we’d have to slow down from here to only do 30 million by March. I know but I think this is optimistic because once we've vaccinated the low-hanging fruit (i.e. people who work at hospitals and clinics, people who live in nursing homes... i.e. people whose identities and locations we already know), it'll become only more chaotic. I hope I'm wrong though!
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Jan 3, 2021 21:16
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How exactly is Biden supposed to speed up vaccine manfucturing.
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cr0y posted:How exactly is Biden supposed to speed up vaccine manfucturing. Our current woes seem to be more on the distribution logistics side than manufacturing, but either way, my point is that I would not expect February or March to be less of a shitshow with vaccine deployment because Trump is gone and I would definitely not be making any nonrefundable travel plans earlier than next Christmas.
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We don't have a problem with manufacturing it really seems like the problem is getting shots into arms. Which Biden could solve by saying active duty corpsmen etc.. trained on giving shots then sending them en masse to the states, something that is not being done except on a state level with National Guard helping out in some states. There'ss a lot Biden can do.
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Jan 3, 2021 21:26
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cr0y posted:How exactly is Biden supposed to speed up vaccine manfucturing. Perhaps some kind of industrial policy other than let everyone do whatever the gently caress they want all the time?
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Jan 3, 2021 21:26
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He is not currently the president, that's January 20.
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Jan 3, 2021 21:27
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The problem really seems getting shots in arms and that's only going to be solved with a mass influx of people capable of giving the shot and then coordinating with the states for those people to get in position to give shots.
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Jan 3, 2021 21:29
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Pick posted:He is not currently the president, that's January 20. Goalposts breaking the sound barrier in here today
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Jan 3, 2021 21:30
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Obama actually had some competent bureaucrats and everyone thinks that Biden is going to be a third Obama term due to his hiring so I imagine there's going to be some improvement
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sleep with the vicious posted:Perhaps some kind of industrial policy other than let everyone do whatever the gently caress they want all the time? I might be wrong but I'd imagine the pharma companies are making as much as humanly possible as fast as they possibly can. This isn't the type of thing that you can say "Hey ford start making vaccines" if that's what you mean?
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Jan 3, 2021 21:44
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Biden plans on using the DPA to boost production. https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2020-12-28/biden-to-invoke-defense-production-act-to-ramp-up-coronavirus-vaccine-production Pfizer has asked for this. I think the Trump admin has only used it to force workers back into pork processing plants.
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Jan 3, 2021 21:48
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I feel like there might be some policy differences between the guy that says "covid deaths are made up" and "fighting covid is a top priority".
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Jan 3, 2021 21:56
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Really just having the federal response go back to standard levels of bureaucratic incompetence will be a delightful relief from the current approach of active sabotage. There will still be plenty of active sabotage to go around at the state and local levels.
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Jan 3, 2021 22:00
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brugroffil posted:Biden plans on using the DPA to boost production. Reminder that Trump's idea of invoking the DPA was to say "I DECLARE DEFENSE PRODUCTION ACT" like Steve Carell and then get confused when people explained to him that you have to actually give specific orders to companies now and never get around to that part
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Pick posted:That's not accurate, parts of the plan were in the press briefing. the question was about getting vaccines in human bodies not testing
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haveblue posted:Reminder that Trump's idea of invoking the DPA was to say "I DECLARE DEFENSE PRODUCTION ACT" like Steve Carell and then get confused when people explained to him that you have to actually give specific orders to companies now and never get around to that part As mentioned above, he made a bunch of pork plant workers get back to their production line.
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Thorn Wishes Talon posted:I know but I think this is optimistic because once we've vaccinated the low-hanging fruit (i.e. people who work at hospitals and clinics, people who live in nursing homes... i.e. people whose identities and locations we already know), it'll become only more chaotic. The thing causing the issues now is a combination of: 1) complex eligibility requirements And 2) no coordinated mechanism to identify and track eligible recipients Once the eligibility requirements are relaxed it’ll start to look like the annual flu vaccine process.
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The Oldest Man posted:I also hope that, but Biden hasn't really stated any actual plan to ramp up vaccine delivery, his "we'll deliver 100 million doses" promise is about par for where we're going to be at anyway and a lot of non-Trump poo poo is also driving the car into one tree after another. E.g., the Democratic governor of NY just threatened to fine medical staff a million dollars and strip them of their licenses if they put a needle in the wrong arm. Cuomo appears to be obsessed with 100% vaccinating nursing home residents before moving on to vaccinate anybody else. Clearly he's a little upset about having killed so many of them back in March. He might not be wrong. Time will tell if the strategy of "make sure the most vulnerable are vaccinated first" is better than the Florida-style strategy of throwing open the gate to anyone over age 65. The best strategy would of course be Israel's, aka "don't take a loving holiday off during a pandemic and vaccinate your entire population right away."
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Green Nail Polish posted:Cuomo appears to be obsessed with 100% vaccinating nursing home residents before moving on to vaccinate anybody else. Clearly he's a little upset about having killed so many of them back in March. Threatening medical providers with a million dollar fine and loss of their license for vaccinating the wrong person is straight up a cudgel to use against his political enemies and it will 100% result in vaccine doses expiring on the shelf. Launch Cuomo into the loving sun.
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Tesseraction posted:Oh God I'm laughing so loving hard at this. Like, yes no poo poo it's horrible and I'm sure this person feels horrible and this is a major issue, but jesus christ 'the one bit of attempted christmas cheer we got actually may have turbo-blasted Covid like a loving t-shirt cannon of plague' is just the most Covid era story.
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Tesseraction posted:Oh God Nightmare fuel
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'we regret to inform you that the delightful christmas tree that was hugging people may have been air blasting Covid through the halls, please report for testing right away if you enjoyed our christmas cheer'.
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sexpig by night posted:I'm laughing so loving hard at this. Like, yes no poo poo it's horrible and I'm sure this person feels horrible and this is a major issue, but jesus christ 'the one bit of attempted christmas cheer we got actually may have turbo-blasted Covid like a loving t-shirt cannon of plague' is just the most Covid era story. Major agree.
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sexpig by night posted:I'm laughing so loving hard at this. Like, yes no poo poo it's horrible and I'm sure this person feels horrible and this is a major issue, but jesus christ 'the one bit of attempted christmas cheer we got actually may have turbo-blasted Covid like a loving t-shirt cannon of plague' is just the most Covid era story. Yeah seriously. The air blower must have made some noise, I'm sure people were standing around saying "uhhh is this a good idea?" but stayed for the free cake and ice cream. I'm not a ghoul, I feel sorry that 7% of the population is going to die, but at least we're laughing all the way to Hell. Gynovore fucked around with this message at 22:58 on Jan 3, 2021 |
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Green Nail Polish posted:Cuomo appears to be obsessed with 100% vaccinating nursing home residents before moving on to vaccinate anybody else. Clearly he's a little upset about having killed so many of them back in March.
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An ITU doc in Wales (worth following if you can stand Twitter) https://mobile.twitter.com/WelshGasDoc/status/1345138570613436416
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