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Mr Hootington posted:Tell us the company so we can insider trade too i'm gonna insider trade so loving hard. "worked a lot of overtime this week, gonna put it towards some put contracts because they can't afford this kind of payroll expenditure"
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wish my company gave me stock but we're owned by private equity lol least our company isnt being hollowed out for scraps and we're actually more valuable during a lockdown.
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ram dass in hell posted:It's both. Both things can be and are bad. Sounds like you feel confused over what would be the best decision for yourself if you were in a position where you felt delivering food is the most reasonable long-term option for you. Ask yourself: in an environment where you need to fight to survive, would it feel better to judge yourself and maintain your ideals while experiencing discomfort for an unknown period of time, or would you want to acknowledge and minimize your negative feelings? What feels more likely to guarantee your survival from the perspective of that individual? Imo, suppressing your negative feelings in the short-term is a difficult thing to do even in the face of reasonable ideals. I hope you'd want to give that benefit of time to other workers and channel your angry energy to the jerks that put those workers in that position in the first place
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Well the factory has started getting quotes for new orders. Nothing has changed but people seem to want to buy poo poo again.
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veepfake posted:Sounds like you feel confused over what would be the best decision for yourself if you were in a position where you felt delivering food is the most reasonable long-term option for you. Ask yourself: in an environment where you need to fight to survive, would it feel better to judge yourself and maintain your ideals while experiencing discomfort for an unknown period of time, or would you want to acknowledge and minimize your negative feelings? What feels more likely to guarantee your survival from the perspective of that individual? Imo, suppressing your negative feelings in the short-term is a difficult thing to do even in the face of reasonable ideals. I hope you'd want to give that benefit of time to other workers and channel your angry energy to the jerks that put those workers in that position in the first place Times are tough out there, tgotta make sure I can get mine. Scab logic in action, reframed as "giving the benefit of time to other workers".
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Mr Hootington posted:Tell us the company so we can insider trade too S-1s are public so spit it out and we can go down in flames too I mean, you might be able to buy in pre-offering but the rest of us can only jump in on IPO day with the WSB degenerates FistEnergy has issued a correction as of 17:35 on Jan 5, 2021 |
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is jack ma still missing
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actionjackson posted:is jack ma still missing Worried you are next?
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punished milkman posted:i feel like there is a whole genre of “private equity firm with extremely ominous name” where they just openly revel in how evil they are i like Blackstone. oh dear what evil sorcerer lives in Castle Blackstone?! 
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actionjackson posted:is jack ma still missing apparently he is "laying low" also lol at this scab logic discussion, everyone sucks
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Some people are complete idiots and formed families that they are then responsible for.  Folks get horny, I don't blame 'em, though this another perfect example of why horny is prohibited.
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Tubgoat posted:Some people are complete idiots and formed families that they are then responsible for. Ah, so it's bad to criticize people for having kids, but good to encourage the availability of contraceptives?
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please don’t attack workers, it’s leftist practice 101
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human garbage bag posted:Ah, so it's bad to criticize people for having kids, but good to encourage the availability of contraceptives? Exhaust our strategic orphan reserves first, then we can make more (kids, not orphans).
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it must be really hard to organize gig workers. i mean at a factory you meet each other in person every day, go to the pub after work to bitch about how lovely your bosses are, maybe have a couple of people who are actually friends outside of work. you get yelled at on the floor together, collectively cementing your hatred of the bosses. gig work is like pure isolation by design. i don't know how you get angry at an uber driver who doesn't join in a strike, the whole system is designed to prevent solidarity
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JAY ZERO SUM GAME posted:please don’t attack workers, it’s leftist practice 101 Does this extend even to people crossing picket lines? Leftist practice 101 to not attack them?
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talking about "scabs" when no one is striking (outside the people mentioned in brazil) is kinda dumb and pointless. start worrying about scabs when there are people on the picket line.
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Dreylad posted:talking about "scabs" when no one is striking (outside the people mentioned in brazil) is kinda dumb and pointless.
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anime was right posted:wish my company gave me stock but we're owned by private equity lol believe me your company IS being hollowed out by the private equity firm, you're just making them so much money that they keep you on life support
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PERPETUAL IDIOT posted:Does this extend even to people crossing picket lines? Leftist practice 101 to not attack them? also everyone at raytheon has a family to support!
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Dreylad posted:talking about "scabs" when no one is striking (outside the people mentioned in brazil) is kinda dumb and pointless. Nobody's striking (at the moment) in public schools, but guess what you are if you teach at a union-busting charter? Same thing with the people working to deliver these groceries that used to be union, even if their captured union doesn't have a strike vote.
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Dreylad posted:talking about "scabs" when no one is striking (outside the people mentioned in brazil) is kinda dumb and pointless.
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ram dass in hell posted:also everyone at raytheon has a family to support! furthermore amazon warehouse workers should be barred from unions because they chose to work making an evil company richer two companies make a deal loving over thousands of workers, a mass of people who won't be getting as many rights and your first thought is gently caress them they are responsible for this and somehow morally equivalent to people who make murder machines, it's a dead end liberal moral judgement because if the problem is there's a mass of bad people taking these gig work offers the solution is them waking up better one day and not taking lovely offers anymore, a nice fantasy but just that. these people were not hired as strike breakers and i wouldn't be surprised if door dash made a bulk human meat deal from their existing driver base in the name of union busting, get real and help them organize.
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ram dass in hell posted:also everyone at raytheon has a family to support!
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JAY ZERO SUM GAME posted:this is a bad analogy, and you are a bad poster no, it's not. you're on some weird puritan poo poo about how having a job, any job, regardless of how you got it or what the job is, is a good thing and solidarity somehow requires forgetting that capitalism employs workers to do evil poo poo all the time, so that you can castigate others for being mean to the poor workers who did nothing wrong. Turn on your monitor.
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people are ethically compromised by their need to not starve to death, it’s one of them there ideology things that makes capitalism as a whole evil rather than a collection of bad actors, goofy
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saying deliveries groceries is the same as building targeting systems for the us military is beyond stupid
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What if you deliver groceries to the people who work at Raytheon?
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thalweg posted:What if you deliver groceries to the people who work at Raytheon? only the janitors, and only if they’re unionized
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thalweg posted:What if you deliver groceries to the people who work at Raytheon? put them against the wall imo
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They're not the same, that's not what I'm saying and you're arguing against it because you can't defend your previous position of desperation justifies doing bad poo poo
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Raytheon engineers are highly educated professionals who could go work for any other civilian engineering firm on the planet for a like 15-20% pay cut and one fewer vacation to Europe every year. Grubhub drivers are nobodies who can go do nothing and get evicted. Come on, gently caress off.
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raytheon officials have a moral obligation to defect to the swamp maoists and build them a stealth bomber
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the prop 22 thing basically created an underclass of indentured servants right? and it’s electorally locked in now that nothing short of a complete revolution with a new constitution can resolve it?
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Jel Shaker posted:the prop 22 thing basically created an underclass of indentured servants right? and it’s electorally locked in now that nothing short of a complete revolution with a new constitution can resolve it? yes theoretically the california supreme court or a federal court could rule it unconstitutional (like what happened with prop 8, the gay marriage ban). or a new ballot prop could undo it. the latter would probably be impossible bar a revolution that undid the insane concentration of money that allowed 22 to be rammed through Shear Modulus has issued a correction as of 20:29 on Jan 5, 2021 |
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I'm a leftist because I know it's more important to find someone to blame rather than find someone to organise.
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ram dass in hell posted:no, it's not. you're on some weird puritan poo poo about how having a job, any job, regardless of how you got it or what the job is, is a good thing and solidarity somehow requires forgetting that capitalism employs workers to do evil poo poo all the time, so that you can castigate others for being mean to the poor workers who did nothing wrong. Turn on your monitor. puritan my rear end, those who make the decisions be the ones held accountable, you're just making targets for your imaginary wimpy liberal scolding ram dass in hell posted:They're not the same, that's not what I'm saying and you're arguing against it because you can't defend your previous position of desperation justifies doing bad poo poo you're implying delivery app workers are responsible for a business deal the companies made, the workers have no more responsibility over that than amazon workers have over their working conditions it's not a question of morals, or a question of necessity/desperation, it's a class question, and it's not good well meaning people come together, it's workers of the world unite, if the historical labor movement were to follow your logic parents who put their kids in factories would be banned from fighting for the end of child labor
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bagual posted:puritan my rear end, those who make the decisions be the ones held accountable, you're just making targets for your imaginary wimpy liberal scolding The only way to hold those responsible accountable is to shake the foundations they are resting on, and they've done a bang up job of building that foundation out of hostages. It's a pickle of a situation
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