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My favorite part of the gunfight is when they walk out of the bank, Val Kilmer is in a good mood, he looks up, sees the cops, and his entire demeanor and body language changes. Instantly. No moment of hesitation or doubt. He just start shooting. Rockin and rollin as Pacino said in the beginning of the movie.
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i know its been said already (several times) but that scene in Heat is elevated so high by the sound of the gunfire alone. its so unique and it feels real (because it sort of was).
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priznat posted:God I loving hate I loving Love Science I loving Love Scientist Man! 
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Jose Oquendo posted:My favorite part of the gunfight is when they walk out of the bank, Val Kilmer is in a good mood, he looks up, sees the cops, and his entire demeanor and body language changes. Instantly. No moment of hesitation or doubt. He just start shooting. Rockin and rollin as Pacino said in the beginning of the movie. Yah so many little touches in that flick. I also like the scene with Wes Studi swapping his shotgun shells out for breaching rounds to shoot out the door hinges. And the drive-in scene where deniro just shoots thru the windshield because of course that makes sense but never really see people do that in movies/shows. Man I felt bad for the getaway driver dude(Haysbert!), you get some slices of his life then everything gets lovely, then it gets worse 
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A while ago I had this Michael Mann book (I'm not even sure where it's at now) but I scanned a few pages for TFR once upon a time.   
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Basticle posted:A while ago I had this Michael Mann book (I'm not even sure where it's at now) but I scanned a few pages for TFR once upon a time. Do you know the name of that book? I fuckin want it. Like right now.
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Weirdo posted:
God that's such a good scene!
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Jose Oquendo posted:Do you know the name of that book? I fuckin want it. Like right now. Michael Mann by F.X. Feeney published by Taschen (a high end German art book publisher) It's out of print so the only one on amazon is $112 and theres one on ebay for $64 but this website has a used copy for like $26 shipped from Germany *edit* theres a new, listed as "Sealed" one for $1699 on ebay 
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Heat also has the finest piece of acting Pacino's ever done: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvTpEoi0tzE I think someone said once that he was coked up throughout this movie and I believe it!!! Hackers film 1995 posted:oh gently caress. you bastard! 
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Basticle posted:Michael Mann by F.X. Feeney published by Taschen (a high end German art book publisher) It's out of print so the only one on amazon is $112 and theres one on ebay for $64 but this website has a used copy for like $26 shipped from Germany Thanks goon. I ordered that one from Germany!
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Olewithmilk posted:Heat also has the finest piece of acting Pacino's ever done: I haven't read that, but I did read that Pacino said he played his character in Heat as though he was on cocaine a lot of the time, so maybe an interviewer just misunderstood the context 
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Jose Oquendo posted:Thanks goon. I ordered that one from Germany! I hope it's not too late or a problem but it's entirely possible that copy is written in German, idk  *edit* checked the ISBN, that's the German-language version, oops
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Sydney Bottocks posted:I haven't read that, but I did read that Pacino said he played his character in Heat as though he was on cocaine a lot of the time, so maybe an interviewer just misunderstood the context I've gotten MUCH dumber during lockdown so I think I just forgot it was his character.
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He’s talkin about Ashley Judd too, star of several TNG episodes *Mike perks up*
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Basticle posted:I hope it's not too late or a problem but it's entirely possible that copy is written in German, idk Thanks for looking out for me. I cancelled it. It was either that or learn german.
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priznat posted:God I loving hate I loving Love Science Agreed. "Science gently caress yeah" people sure are passionate about what they believe to be the concept of science. Too bad they aren't passionate about actually learning any science unless it's dumbed down by a twee tv show. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7CJrnaauHM
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You're a fan of science, huh? Name every thing.
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super sweet best pal posted:Agreed. "Science gently caress yeah" people sure are passionate about what they believe to be the concept of science. Too bad they aren't passionate about actually learning any science unless it's dumbed down by a twee tv show. And then they get convinced they are experts in it after watching a 2minute youtube clip, and it’s really annoying.
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They also fail to realize that science requires skepticism. They always want to champion a scientific theory as immutable fact. Not to say there are some scenarios where that is pretty much the case, but they treat every research paper as unquestionable fact.
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Yeah there’s definitely an internet crowd that worships at the altar of all of the superficialities of science but doesn’t really understand any of it. Star Trek: Discovery is the extreme example of this, because everything in it could be debunked by reading a few Wikipedia articles. Their stupid “Spore Drive” is the biggest example of this. Like some writer stumbled across mycelium and was like “my god the whole universe could be connected by fungus, gently caress yeah science, holy poo poo this is so deep!” How can loving fungus propel a spaceship? What does it feed on in the vacuum of space? How can it bring people back from the dead? Do they realize that spores and mycelium are two completely different things? It’s so loving stupid, an elementary school student could torpedo the whole concept. You might as well just say The Force now exists in Star Trek. But Kutzman and company masturbate to this poo poo and pat themselves on the back over how they’re “inspiring women to enter STEM fields”. colonelwest fucked around with this message at 22:34 on Jan 8, 2021 |
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Cant wait for the next Star Trek science consultant: a life hack Twitter feed.
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Discovery is no more disinterested in actual science than any other Star Trek show my loving god people they took Spock’s brain out you absolute weirdos. Discovery has flaws but you’re all pointing at traditional, long standing aspects of Trek that have always existed since the beginning.
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spock: "i loving love logic!"
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Want these hack frauds to do a re:view of HEATEndless Trash posted:Discovery is no more disinterested in actual science than any other Star Trek show my loving god people they took Spock’s brain out you absolute weirdos. Discovery has flaws but you’re all pointing at traditional, long standing aspects of Trek that have always existed since the beginning. TOS didn't allow women captains, which I had totally forgotten until my last rewatch. I'd wager that was a suggestion of Majel Barrett, like not making Troi three-breasted. Weirdo fucked around with this message at 22:46 on Jan 8, 2021 |
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Endless Trash posted:Discovery is no more disinterested in actual science than any other Star Trek show my loving god people they took Spock’s brain out you absolute weirdos. Discovery has flaws but you’re all pointing at traditional, long standing aspects of Trek that have always existed since the beginning. Star Trek had disinterest in science, yes. Having someone who literally says “I loving love science” as the science advisor goes beyond disinterest and into contempt.
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Gutcruncher posted:Star Trek had disinterest in science, yes. Having someone who literally says “I loving love science” as the science advisor goes beyond disinterest and into contempt. no it doesn’t
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Basticle posted:Michael Mann by F.X. Feeney published by Taschen (a high end German art book publisher) It's out of print so the only one on amazon is $112 and theres one on ebay for $64 but this website has a used copy for like $26 shipped from Germany I bought a copy of this ages ago, FYI it's only current to Miami Vice for all you diehard Public Enemies or Blackhat fans out there. The only Mann film I haven't seen is The Keep which is a supernatural Nazi horror movie?? And apparently, not very good. Cacator fucked around with this message at 23:06 on Jan 8, 2021 |
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I'm something of a scientist myself.
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Endless Trash posted:no it doesn’t That's a good point. Star Trek has always been the softest of soft sci-fi. They were only really "hard" sci-fi when compared to the literally-a-fantasy Star Wars franchise. I think that a lot of the nerd-wankery about Star Trek's science came more from the nerd culture wars of the 80s and 90s. When your nerd tribe's main distinction from the other nerd tribe (with the bigger budgets, more iconic characters, and cooler special effects) was that yours was more scientific, you absolutely ran that poo poo into the ground.
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I will admit I did have the enterprise-D handbook but even as a kid I knew the scientific stuff was all bullshit. I just liked the technical diagrams.
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Endless Trash posted:Discovery is no more disinterested in actual science than any other Star Trek show my loving god people they took Spock’s brain out you absolute weirdos. Discovery has flaws but you’re all pointing at traditional, long standing aspects of Trek that have always existed since the beginning. To be clear, I'm making fun of the notion of a "Science of Star Trek" show because the science of Star Trek is a complete joke, not specifically because of Discovery.
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Endless Trash posted:Discovery is no more disinterested in actual science than any other Star Trek show my loving god people they took Spock’s brain out you absolute weirdos. Discovery has flaws but you’re all pointing at traditional, long standing aspects of Trek that have always existed since the beginning. A lot of the sins of Abrams/Kurtzman Trek began in the late Berman-era. But, Star Trek in its heyday (especially TNG) had a ton a of real science in it even though it was never hard sci-fi. Warp Drives, antimatter reactors, even weird stuff like Romulan spaceships powered by black holes were all influenced by real physics. The show also consistently espoused rationality and adherence to the scientific method. Even when it took giant leaps into speculative/fantasy tech they created rules for it. People like Michael Okuda spent huge amounts of time mapping out the layout of the Enterprise D and how all of its systems functioned, making an entire technical manual that’s 192 pages long. Discovery is just science fantasy written by idiots, with magic mushrooms and a universe powered by love. But the people behind it don’t have a single shred of self-awareness.
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infernal machines posted:To be clear, I'm making fun of the notion of a "Science of Star Trek" show because the science of Star Trek is a complete joke, not specifically because of Discovery. Lawrence Krauss wrote Physics of Star Trek 25 years ago. There have been endless articles in science magazines about depictions of scientific theories on the show over many decades. Also, this show is going on YouTube. So it’ll join the other trillion hours of YouTube content devoted to this very thing. Nothing new here.
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colonelwest posted:A lot of the sins of Abrams/Kurtzman Trek began in the late Berman-era. But, Star Trek in its heyday (especially TNG) had a ton a of real science in it even though it was never hard sci-fi. Warp Drives, antimatter reactors, even weird stuff like Romulan spaceships powered by black holes were all influenced by real physics. The show also consistently espoused rationality and adherence to the scientific method. Even when it took giant leaps into speculative/fantasy tech they created rules for it. People like Michael Okuda spent huge amounts of time mapping out the layout of the Enterprise D and how all of its systems functioned, making an entire technical manual that’s 192 pages long. Kirk and Spock have a dragon ball z battle with satan, but the idea that the multiverse is connected somehow similar to a plant/fungus/tree (something many cultures have believed) is just too beyond the pale. Okay.
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Today on I loving Love Star Trek Science we're going to discuss the scientific basis of Q.
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Cacator posted:The only Mann film I haven't seen is The Keep which is a supernatural Nazi horror movie?? And apparently, not very good. there are a couple really cool things about that movie (specifically some effects and soundtrack) but mostly it is a bore.
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I've always thought it was depressing that books as lovely as the Martian and Ready Player One got adapted by all-time directors then remembered Jaws and the Godfather aren't great books.
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Groovelord Neato posted:I've always thought it was depressing that books as lovely as the Martian and Ready Player One got adapted by all-time directors then remembered Jaws and the Godfather aren't great books. "But the book is always better than the movie"
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Groovelord Neato posted:I've always thought it was depressing that books as lovely as the Martian and Ready Player One got adapted by all-time directors then remembered Jaws and the Godfather aren't great books. The Martian doesn't deserve to get lumped in with Ready Player One, what the gently caress Why do you always think such stupid thoughts?
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Legin Noslen posted:The Martian doesn't deserve to get lumped in with Ready Player One, what the gently caress The Martian was not a good book, and the only thing that elevated it as a movie was the presence of Matt Damon. edit: it wasn't as bad as RPO obviously.
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