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Brunom1 posted:Hmm... On this matter, there's something that springs to mind. Do we know if Hololive's auditions are a "One per Gen" thing? I'd imagine that, considering the likely massive amounts of candidates that they would've gotten for EN Gen 1, it's not impossible that they have a backlog of entertainers that were just as good as the HoloMyth girls - but there were only 5 slots available. Has that ever happened on the JP gens? I'm going to assume that by the 3rd or 4th gen they would have already a healthy backlog of talents, I'm not sure. I know at least Nene had to apply 3 or 4 times until she got the role.
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Lily Catts posted:Holy poo poo I didn't know Liliana had another personality who took over during her Tekken stream during the road to unlock online play, and bailed out just as she got a match online You should watch her Good Cop Bad Cop stream.
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Both Gen4 to Gen5, and ID-Gen1 to Gen2 were 8 months apart. If that continues, then Gen6 will be in April and En Gen2 will be May.
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Misanthropic Void posted:Has that ever happened on the JP gens? I'm going to assume that by the 3rd or 4th gen they would have already a healthy backlog of talents, I'm not sure. I know at least Nene had to apply 3 or 4 times until she got the role. In Nene's case those applications were basically all one after the other during the same audition period, not across different gen auditions. She'd send an application, wait 2 weeks to see if she got a reply, then send out another.
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Lyer posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgKO87LyJQo She's having problems despite how buff her pc is. Apex Legends is truly one of the worst games to stream without a two pc setup.
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Whelp Apex didn't get her but her internet did, so she's done for now. In other news, Flare is still playing GTA V and has gotten to Trevor, so this is going to be good.
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Okay, Rushia asking chat about that one snack she was craving, finally learning the name of it, then having chat buy it out from under her as she was checking out on Amazon is just priceless. https://youtu.be/Z2uGpqgKlpw
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uh is it standard for idol companies to debut new members into perpetuity? I never watched any idol anime and don’t particularly follow any of these pop groups I understand Niji has something like 100 talents, and Hololive/Holostars is smaller and structured differently, but I feel like expecting or wanting a 6th wave of Hololives is wild. The cast as it is seems manageable and comprehensible. More EN people would make sense and it could arguably be its own money printing machine as old YouTube channel giants splinter and disintegrate like the Yogscast and Rooster Teeth or whatever content tax: is Rushia’s whole bit being loud, and then shy, and then loud? loud https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6C4fUVHrRo quiet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SybLZ5Y8hvE e;fb
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Ame is doing a stress test, if you want to see scuff and tech issues live now's your chance.
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junan_paalla posted:Ame is doing a stress test, if you want to see scuff and tech issues live now's your chance. so, an EN stream then
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As far as Hololive goes, no one knows if they want to go the Niji route where they have hundreds of streamers. The talents themselves have said they like the family feel of Hololive and the collaborative nature of the streams definitely are a major selling point, so from what we can gather right now, probably not endless generation releases. What number they feel is good, who knows, but another EN generation is probably on the docket.
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wolfs posted:uh is it standard for idol companies to debut new members into perpetuity? I mean the industry is still pretty new as a whole, but we're definitely not near the cap yet. Every new Hololive generation has been exploding in popularity more than the last, while older ones also balloon in popularity. There's no reason for them to -stop- debuting new generations when it's literally printing money for them.
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wolfs posted:uh is it standard for idol companies to debut new members into perpetuity? For groups to add new members usually happens as other members leave, big groups like Morning Musume or the AKB48 universe of groups will add members constantly as they find new talent (or potential talent in the AKB sense, hence the AKB Cafes acting as training enviroments). Hololive's approach is more akin to companies that are always debuting new groups, whose member lineups are expected to be more static over time. You're not expected to follow every group under the company's banner, just the groups and members you like. Remember that Hololive is only up to I think 42 members, so they've got a way to go until they're even close to how many members are in the AKB stable of groups yet.
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njsykora posted:AKB48 so, 6 more? 
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Mazerunner posted:so, 6 more? Try 400 more. there are 12 groups under the AKB48 model.
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That is even assuming that they don't explore local markets directly like South Korea, Germany, France, latin america, etc. there is still room to grow and the diference is that the talents don't graduate once they are slightly above 18 years old.
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The bigger difference between huge idol groups and V-Tubers/Hololive is that since this isn't a real idol group, they're not suffering from 16 hour a day high intensity practices, management controlling every aspect of their lives, and a very different type of perception from the public eye. No beauty standards, no getting "graduated" for being too old, none of the traditional toxic music industry/idol things that lead to early retirement, major health issues, or in the worst cases death. Some of those things still exist to a lesser degree in the V-Tuber sphere, but I would gander that becoming a streamer for years on end is much easier when you're also behind a 3D avatar than traditional companies or Twitch streamers too, since you get to retain and pretty high amount of animosity when you turn the stream off. Stress, burnout, and pressure from the public will still happen but at a much slower pace than any idol group meaning there doesn't have to be a never-ending supply of new stars for Cover or Niji but at some point they're going to end up either hitting diminishing returns or V-tubing will just be the next step of regular twitch streaming/content creation and will survive pretty indefinitely.
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wolfs posted:uh is it standard for idol companies to debut new members into perpetuity? Rushia's deal is that she's menhera (she has MENtal HEAlth issues) so she switches from lovey dovey into extremely needy into jealous into murderous and back at the drop of a hat. It's a fairly new JP fetish personality. (for more info just google Riamu Yumemi) trucutru fucked around with this message at 19:46 on Jan 13, 2021 |
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pnumoman posted:Okay, Rushia asking chat about that one snack she was craving, finally learning the name of it, then having chat buy it out from under her as she was checking out on Amazon is just priceless. Normally her antics would be pretty funny but somehow this one hits differently. Its like I'm watching candy being stolen from a child repeatedly. I know that she's partially feeding chat to do so and chat is obliging on symbiotic level but all she wanted was to order some cookies. I actually went to check Amazon Japan and they are practically cleaned out. There's one seller that still has puchi pastels in stock. https://www.amazon.co.jp/-/en/dp/B07BQM8M1Y/ I wonder how good they are. trucutru posted:Rushia's deal is that she's menhera (she has MENtal HEAlth issues) so she switches from lovey dovey into extremely needy into jealous into murderous and back at the drop of a hat. So its Tsundere + Yandere shaken and stirred and served over ice.
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trucutru posted:Rushia's deal is that she's menhera (she has MENtal HEAlth issues) so she switches from lovey dovey into extremely needy into jealous into murderous and back at the drop of a hat. Revolver Bunker posted:So its Tsundere + Yandere shaken and stirred and served over ice. That's not really what menhera is and actually kinda trivializes what it's supposed to represent: a stylistic manner of expression built around depression and mental illness, which are often ignored in Japanese society. Riamu specifically doesn't even really do what you described; her character suffers from depression and mostly hates herself and other idol otaku, which is definitely a mood. Obviously, it's taken to something of an extreme with her and, in some cases, Menhera-chan, but "bipolar switching between tropes" isn't representative of its subculture, at least how it was just a few years ago.
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Takoluka posted:That's not really what menhera is and actually kinda trivializes what it's supposed to represent: a stylistic manner of expression built around depression and mental illness, which are often ignored in Japanese society. Riamu specifically doesn't even really do what you described; her character suffers from depression and mostly hates herself and other idol otaku, which is definitely a mood. Obviously, it's taken to something of an extreme with her and, in some cases, Menhera-chan, but "bipolar switching between tropes" isn't representative of its subculture, at least how it was just a few years ago. I'm not talking about the subculture. I am talking about the "menhera" mental instability stereotype. Maybe that wasn't the case a few years ago but now the term has evolved and Rushia's antics can be described by it, as you'll see in her own chat. Revolver Bunker posted:So its Tsundere + Yandere shaken and stirred and served over ice. She's just "unstable" as gently caress for comedic (and SC milking) purposes. And she's drat good at it. vvv sure, no prob vvv trucutru fucked around with this message at 21:56 on Jan 13, 2021 |
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trucutru posted:I'm not talking about the subculture. I am talking about the "menhera" mental instability stereotype. Maybe that wasn't the case a few years ago but now the term has evolved and Rushia's antics can be described by it, as you'll see in her own chat. Hmm. That's actually really bad, but that's a discussion for another time, I guess.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gQQY_p6-ws Marine's become even better at impressions. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fj9jUHbkqQQ And Coco's forced to read superchats in a rather unusual way.
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Takoluka posted:That's not really what menhera is and actually kinda trivializes what it's supposed to represent: a stylistic manner of expression built around depression and mental illness, which are often ignored in Japanese society. Riamu specifically doesn't even really do what you described; her character suffers from depression and mostly hates herself and other idol otaku, which is definitely a mood. Obviously, it's taken to something of an extreme with her and, in some cases, Menhera-chan, but "bipolar switching between tropes" isn't representative of its subculture, at least how it was just a few years ago. trucutru posted:I'm not talking about the subculture. I am talking about the "menhera" mental instability stereotype. Maybe that wasn't the case a few years ago but now the term has evolved and Rushia's antics can be described by it, as you'll see in her own chat. Takoluka posted:Hmm. That's actually really bad, but that's a discussion for another time, I guess. I think I understand both sides of this now and it makes more sense to me on the how and why. I don't know how much of Rushia's character is her actual personality so I think I'll drop the subject. In a hour or so Haachama is going to work off that scorpion fish burger she had with some Ringfit. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_OyYodQumQ
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1aCCdvq9Yg Polka also has a minecraft stream in a few minutes, isn't it like 6am over there? Respect to Haachama for waking up early and working out in the morning. E: I really dig this BGM Polka uses Lyer fucked around with this message at 23:06 on Jan 13, 2021 |
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i miss coco’s old screechy voice sometimes
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Amelia used her superchat money to buy her Aunt a car. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-fNzj2DkUk
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Honestly all the Rushia stuff just feels like a horribly abusive relationship between her and chat, and it's always made me very uncomfortable, even if it's "part of the joke."
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wolfs posted:i miss coco’s old screechy voice sometimes ”Aahhhh Minnnnaaaaaaaaaaaa" I can hear it in my head
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From being in her chat every now and then Rushia just seems very sweet most of the time and her chat adores her. Them buying all those cookies she wanted did seem a bit mean though, it wasn't like how Haachama's fans bought out all the types of those preserved bugs she was talking about since that was after the stream.
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Mr.Flibble posted:Amelia used her superchat money to buy her Aunt a car. Nice of Ame, I'm guess that was as a thanks for helping raise her and her siblings.
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https://twitter.com/watsonameliaEN/status/1349479210587357184 https://twitter.com/watsonameliaEN/status/1349479211551973377 https://twitter.com/watsonameliaEN/status/1349480499547303936 Korone Voice: "I not understand"
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Hiro Protagonist posted:Honestly all the Rushia stuff just feels like a horribly abusive relationship between her and chat, and it's always made me very uncomfortable, even if it's "part of the joke." Her chat does often suck but Rushia is in total control, the chat likes it, and she makes more $$$ per SC than anybody else (last time I checked). If anything I don't like the part where she goes "You guys love Rushia and won't leave her for any other woman, right?" and the like because it seems (to me) like too direct a call to get more SCs. Stairmaster posted:I will protect riamu Even after hearing her otahen single? I think she's trying to murder your ears.
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Brunom1 posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gQQY_p6-ws
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_akXkJFKGeM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRQ6fw_rCEk Now we have two full perspectives for Coco, Kanata, and Aki's visit to a cozy little bar. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cHPZpMiUxw Meanwhile, in Pekoland...
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Several streamers in Hololive, even Korone, like to do the "no watching any other girls" schtick and I don't think it's motivated by wanting to monopolize their viewers' wallets. And Rushia was absolutely leading her audience on to buy those snacks from under her because you can walk into nearly any supermarket or convenience store and buy them without issue, not to mention a selection of other online shops. I was watching that moment live and she got so many "pity" SCs from that bit. She knows what her audience wants.
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