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Just ran by Target... they had an LG OLED BX on display with probably the worst burn in I've ever seen on a device. They weren't displaying a static picture either, it was some standard LG demo loop. This is giving me serious second thoughts about getting one. I assume the CX and BX are both similar from a burn in perspective?
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Could have just been a case of them having it at a backlight of 100 on account of it being a floor model. Burn-in scales exponentially with brightness so a display at max brightness might only have 700 hours before displaying burn-in whereas a set that has it at 50 (pretty standard for most home viewing cases) wouldn't start to see burn-in until about 4000 hours.
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Hdtvtest channel said a Big Deal for oled and burn in is when you turn them "off"/standby they do compensation or something cycles to help prevent it..unlesss the power is just hard cut off so it can't run, eg in a store where they flip the big power switch for the department off at the end of the day. PSA never buy a display model oled.
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Compensation cycle is not for burn in, it's for Image Retention. The backplane of the display can hold a residual charge from a static image. The compensation cycle is meant to level out the residual voltage across the backplane so you have consistency in how each pixel performs. Now, I guess you could argue that if IR isn't erased, then IR that isn't cleared could eventually cause the pixels to wear differently and cause burn in. However, pulling power isn't going to do that necessarily. In fact, removing power for a prolonged period of time can be pretty effective in removing IR due to the fact that all residual charge in the set ends up draining out. I'm not 100% sure what the mechanism is behind the prolonged compensation cycle that you can run from the menu (or runs automatically after like 4000 hours), but I suspect it's just a more rigorous and cycles the backplane between min and max values to level set everything. Burn in is simply wear and it's cumulative. Nothing more, nothing less. Higher the OLED Light, more accelerated the wear. Red wears the worse so red and yellow are bad. Showing a loop over and over can absolutely cause burn in on an oled on a long enough timeframe depending on what it's comprised of. Considering that Target's main color is red, I'm guessing a 5 second graphic looped once every few minutes for a year might have been enough to do it in.
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Jan 13, 2021 02:50
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Ah cool 'preciate it, good to know.
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bull3964 posted:Compensation cycle is not for burn in, it's for Image Retention. You know a lot about TVs. Great explanation. I don't feel so nervous about getting one now.
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Here’s my C8 showing a red screen after a pandemic mostly spent playing Fallout 76 in HDR. That’s just the lower left corner, there’s a few bits like that on the right side too. Or at least, there were. I ran the pixel refresher today, and it took care of everything except the dark vertical line, which is greatly faded now. First thing I did was go into F76 and disable the power armor hud and change the non-power-armor hud to 25% opacity. I got the tv in June of 2018, so it’s not even 3 years old. Any chance LG would do anything to help me? I don’t have any kind of extended warranty, just whatever came with the TV. And I guess I could check the credit card I bought it with to see if there’s any additional warranty there. But I’m pretty sure none of these warranties cover burn in anyway, unless you happen to luck out and get a CSR that’s in a good mood?
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Jan 13, 2021 06:28
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Where did you buy it from?
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Check with LG first as they've been known to be generous if Burn In is the issue. Maybe try 2-3 CSRs if the first doesn't go through.
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Disappointing Pie posted:Got our Hisense AndroidTV this morning. For someone very used to Roku this is different. There is a hisense app call remotenow that allows you to control the TV with your phone. Need to make sure content sharing is enabled on the TV.
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Good news, after consumer complaints, Sony (re) added VRR to the X900H spec page. In addition, LG will be offering an even cheaper OLED sku with the A1; a 60Hz panel with HDMI 2.0. Mister Facetious fucked around with this message at 19:35 on Jan 13, 2021 |
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Mister Facetious posted:Good news, after consumer complaints, Sony (re) added VRR to the X900H spec page.
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Jan 13, 2021 20:08
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kuddles posted:It was never removed from the spec page. It was removed from a page talking about current feature support and as usual, the internet created QAnon-level speculation and outrage before even hearing an official clarification. Then what of youtube videos from more prominent TV reviewers alleging customers calling in/chatting with Sony support and receiving confirmation that it was removed at the time?
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How anyone thinks that tier one call center support folks, most of which are outsourced contractors, have any actual inside knowledge of anything is ridiculous.
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Mister Facetious posted:Then what of youtube videos from more prominent TV reviewers alleging customers calling in/chatting with Sony support and receiving confirmation that it was removed at the time? Those same support agents literally just pull up the website and read back the information to you. They don't have any roadmap plans or anything.
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Jan 13, 2021 21:44
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Vizio M556-H $398 shipped
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Mister Facetious posted:In addition, LG will be offering an even cheaper OLED sku with the A1; a 60Hz panel with HDMI 2.0. A1 seems like a great bedroom TV until you realize that you can get a cheapo TCL for like $250.
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Anyone try the Vizio P-Series X? I see that a new firmware was released that looks promising for hdmi 2.1 features. I see the 85" on sale for $2999 and while I'm still leaning LG, I've heard good things about their TVs. https://www.theverge.com/2021/1/11/...refresh-rate-4k Silly Burrito fucked around with this message at 16:24 on Jan 15, 2021 |
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Jan 15, 2021 16:20
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I recommended a lot of friends to buy Vizios when they were the darlings of the pre-TCL budget tv market and most had trouble, some serious.
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I've only owned two Vizios but both had reliability problems and Vizio was annoying as hell about the warranty. They exited the Canadian market recently and I wasn't sad to see them go. TCL/HiSense seem to have taken their market position at the lower to mid range anyway and I wouldn't trust them at the high end if that's where they're aiming to go.
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I won a TCL Series 4 in work that I've hung outside as my previous outdoor TV fried after a few years. Seems perfectly fine for the money, but I had to laugh that the remote bundled with it feels cheaper than the Roku one I got with the $30 Express I bought a few years ago.
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The only TV that has lasted more than 7 years for me has been a Sony DLP that I actually changed the bulb on a couple of times, but other than that worked perfectly. Both a top of the line Samsung and a loving $3000 Sony LCD went to poo poo after a few years. I visited my parents for Christmas and a Sony Trinitron that my best friend gave me before he left for college that had been sitting in the attic with a SNES still plugged into it fired up with no problems. My current TV is a $250 HiSense that looks better than the (previously mentioned) Sony that died. I guess what I'm saying is I don't think I'll ever spend a bunch of money on a TV again.
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Gonna touch wood so I go home and all my TVs are still working, but I haven't had a problem with a TV dying unexpectedly since I had one of those JVC HD CRTs they were doing for a small amount of time. I sold on my Sony Rear Projection and my Panny Plasma and I believe they lasted a good chunk longer (so past the 7 year benchmark) and my OLED is going to be 5 this year. The aforementioned TV I talked about that died lived on a mount outside in Florida, so it's death after 3 years isn't unexpected. I'm going to get a cover for the new one though just to help it a little.
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I've been reading this thread a long time and I'm ready to go LG CX 65" as early as next week. I'm coming from a 40" Sony XBR4 that I bought 13 years ago. It still works great too; never had any problems. Since everyone is talking about their broken TVs, is the five-year Best Buy warranty the way to go or are there better options?
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Best Buy warranty is pretty good for they also cover burn in.
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GreenNight posted:Best Buy warranty is pretty good for they also cover burn in. What about Costco? They have a deal with the CX right now where you can get a three year extended warranty from State Farm for free.
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Supposedly Costco warranty does not cover burn in.
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I'd be weary of any warranty that alleges to cover burn-in. There's probably a lot of strings attached and it might be hard to actually file a claim for it if the need ever arises.
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Scan a copy of the warranty, whichever way you go; I'll add a google drive link to the FAQ for the fine print.
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Corben Goble-Garbus posted:I've been reading this thread a long time and I'm ready to go LG CX 65" as early as next week. American McGay posted:I'd be weary of any warranty that alleges to cover burn-in.
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Jan 16, 2021 02:06
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Weary = tired, exhausted Wary = cautious, suspect
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FilthyImp posted:I'd wait for the C1. New UI, next-gen image processor, auto scene detection, etc. The CX was kind of meh. How long after announcements do these typically release? Just started getting interested in a new set and I was close enough to new announcements I thought I’d wait.
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End of Q4, and summer, but everything in 2020 was delayed, sooo v v
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rustyshackelford posted:How long after announcements do these typically release? Just started getting interested in a new set and I was close enough to new announcements I thought I’d wait. Last year the 2020 pricing and availability was announced mid March so that's probably a reasonable estimate for the 2021 panels.
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FilthyImp posted:I'd wait for the C1. New UI, next-gen image processor, auto scene detection, etc. The CX was kind of meh. Really that big of a difference? Figured I'd have to wait until ~April to buy a 65" C1 for closer to $2400 when I could get the CX for $1950 next week.
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Corben Goble-Garbus posted:Really that big of a difference? Figured I'd have to wait until ~April to buy a 65" C1 for closer to $2400 when I could get the CX for $1950 next week. The software might end up offering some QoL features but ultimately should have no impact on picture quality. The press release made no mention of actual improvements to key stats like peak brightness, so it looks like CX -> C1 is another incremental upgrade like C9 -> CX was. If you want something more substantial, that's possible this year, but you'll have to get the G1 instead of the C1 and there's no word yet on how much of a premium that'll cost.
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TITTIEKISSER69 posted:Weary = tired, exhausted
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Well, I just got weary of seeing such frequent misuse.
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I am wary of the interaction between forums user TITTIEKISSER69 and forums user KOTEX GOD OF BLOOD
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I am noticing audio sync issues with Disc playback running a Sony UBP-x700 through a Denon AVR s750h into a TCL R635. Streaming - both in the native Roku apps and the blu-ray player - works fine. However, when playing blu-rays, the audio sync is noticeably off. I have tried running the video directly to the tv and letting the receiver handle just audio processing, but that didn’t resolve the issue. When both video and audio are sent straight to the TV, there’s no problem, so I’m guessing the receiver is the cause. I was able to use the built in audio delay function to more or less get things in line, but the delay is approximately 300 ms, which seems really high? Can anyone guess whether this is an actual hardware problem, or just a function of the technology?
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