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Outpost22 posted:Hmm I guess you do need the maidens clothes in the long path, just not as a disguise. Or maybe Alexander is in to that sort of thing, I won't kink shame. They're not "needed" per se, they just get used up automatically to lock you out of the short route (and get you a hair if you missed it.)
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Straight White Shark posted:They're not "needed" per se, they just get used up automatically to lock you out of the short route (and get you a hair if you missed it.) Without them you die there and can't do the long route, so yeah I'd say they are in fact needed. edit: Now I'm questioning myself, but I think Alexander burns to death before the spell can go off if you don't have the clothes to beat out the flames. double edit: and you can't even get this far without getting the clothes, since the beast's curse would finish you otherwise. I should think before posting. Mr. Baps fucked around with this message at 04:42 on Jan 14, 2021 |
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Snorb posted:Yeah, he had to wear a dress to fool an ATM camera in Space Quest IV so he could steal a bunch of money from a debit card. More or less complicated than making a fake mustache out of syrup and cat hair or order to disguise yourself as a guy who doesn't have a mustache?
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Truthkeeper posted:More or less complicated than making a fake mustache out of syrup and cat hair or order to disguise yourself as a guy who doesn't have a mustache? Let's see... buying a replacement pair of pants so you can get a job to earn enough buckazoids to buy a dress so you can rob an ATM so you can buy a computer plug that turns out to be completely loving optional because it turns out you can just rely on Gary Owens' audible "You hear an electronic hum approaching from (ahead of you, your left, your right, behind you)" warnings to duck the security robots at the end of the game... Still less complicated, and didn't result in the death of the Sierra-style adventure game!
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Also Guybrush Threepwood had to dress like a lady in Monkey Island 2. I'm thinking at this point what 90s adventure game protagonist didn't dress in their opposite genders clothes?
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Crossdressing humor was prevalent in the 90's, mostly just a source of immature cheap laughs than any sign of progressivism. Alexander's voice actor even does the exaggerated high-pitched falsetto. The 90's, especially for gaming, was a period that was really insecure about masculinity. Some might say that the games industry still is.
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I think Rincewind was protagonist of some Discworld adventures around the time and he wears robes pretty much all the time.
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GuyUpNorth posted:I think Rincewind was protagonist of some Discworld adventures around the time and he wears robes pretty much all the time. And multiple NPCs snigger about him wearing a dress in both Discworld 1 and 2.
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Outpost22 posted:Also Guybrush Threepwood had to dress like a lady in Monkey Island 2. I'm thinking at this point what 90s adventure game protagonist didn't dress in their opposite genders clothes? Gabriel Knight wouldn't be caught dead wearing a dress. The entire reason he does the cat hair moustache thing is so he can drive around on a manly Harley motorcycle instead of a purple moped.
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Jan 15, 2021 16:56
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It was a nice touch that we see the screen that we see when we die here. It makes sense for it to be here.
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Yeah, definitely don't remember this!
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grandalt posted:It was a nice touch that we see the screen that we see when we die here. It makes sense for it to be here. I figured we'd be coming here just because of the death screen. Be a bit odd to have something like that in a series like this and not use it for actual gameplay.
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The bone xylophone was and is a supreme dick move. "I forgot what" much younger me screamed when I played this game last.
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kw0134 posted:The bone xylophone was and is a supreme dick move. "I forgot what" much younger me screamed when I played this game last. My first two thoughts when I got to this screen as a kid were 1. I want that key 2. I want to play those bones like a xylophone so this wasn't really an issue for me.
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I love the xylophone scene, and I love how in Monkey Island 2 there's a scene with the same tune used as a clue for a puzzle later in the game.
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Yeah I think the first thing I did here was xylophone. This part of the game is so good 
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Same. Saaame. We've been seeing the xylophone all game long every time I've posted dead.gif. So that's plenty of time to see it and think "that looks like something that can be used..." Also in case anyone is wondering, here's someone's recording of the original scene.
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Neurion posted:I love the xylophone scene, and I love how in Monkey Island 2 there's a scene with the same tune used as a clue for a puzzle later in the game. When I did a joke video dubbing over this scene with lines from Mask of Eternity, I used that very tune here. I'd link it, but it covers the entire Land of the Dead portion of the game, so it's way too early.
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DoubleNegative posted:Also in case anyone is wondering, here's someone's recording of the original scene. Anyways, I'm reasonably sure you don't actually NEED the handkerchief. Not sure about the skeleton key.
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It's a really strong sequence.
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This was one of my favourite parts to play and the strongest thing I remembered from this game.
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Man, who knew that Alexander would visit somewhere out in the Styx like this? 
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I'm sure there are tons of places in the game where they have special messages for many of the items you can use, including some that you'd never be expected to have at that point, but the Lord of the Dead's challenge really stands out for me. The bottle of milk is another particularly amusing one, and there are lots of other interesting interactions. Probably some I've never found.
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DoubleNegative posted:
 This is the best part of the game, and maybe all of Sierra gaming. The setting, the solutions, the script and narration, it all just comes together right here. Also I’d never seen Alex’s death animation when the Lord of the Dead touches him, that’s amazing. Alex’s hair is immortal
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Zounds! That sounds serious!
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Quackles posted:Man, who knew that Alexander would visit somewhere out in the Styx like this? 
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DoubleNegative posted:There's a game over you can get here that I only just learned about literally tonight. If you wait too long, Charon will leave and you get killed and then punished with an especially bad pun. To get that, you'd have to be really ignorant of mythology because everyone and their grandmother knows what to do here. Quackles posted:Man, who knew that Alexander would visit somewhere out in the Styx like this?
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I dunno why, but I distinctly remember a Queen of the Dead next to the Lord. Maybe I'm mixing things up with another game. Maybe I've been playing too much Hades lately.
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MagusofStars posted:Hey now, you can't tease us like this and not mention what the terrible pun is. May I direct your attention to this site which seems to be a comprehensive "the many deaths of Alexander" guide.
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DoubleNegative posted:May I direct your attention to this site which seems to be a comprehensive "the many deaths of Alexander" guide. I was flipping through the deaths because I vaguely remembered the Lord of the Dead killing you if you linger too long (he does), and found this little snippet if you fail the Gate's riddle:  Which definitely seems to be pointing at the page clipping from the black widow's web as a clue.
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There's a death missing; after Gate wakes up and calls to Alexander, he can jump into the River Styx (and as expected from such a stupid stunt, this costs Alex his life.) The only real difference between any other dip in that Exxon water and this one are two lines. NARRATOR: Unable to think of any other way around the fierce Gate, Alexander decides to brave the River Styx. GATE: You may cheat me of your flesh, human, but you can't cheat Death of your soul!
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DoubleNegative posted:May I direct your attention to this site which seems to be a comprehensive "the many deaths of Alexander" guide. That’s great 
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I believe you can talk to the Lord of the Dead after making the challenge, where Alexander offers to tell his tale of trying to find Cassima - and the Lord interrupts with basically 'do you know how many tragic love stories I've heard?'
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Actually, now I'm curious what other inventory objects (besides the mirror and the book) get a reaction from the Lord of the Dead.
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Snorb posted:Actually, now I'm curious what other inventory objects (besides the mirror and the book) get a reaction from the Lord of the Dead.  It's a pretty good sequence.
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It won't let you try most of them actually. edit: The narrator just says "The lord of the dead is unlikely to be moved by that"
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Gate Absolutely my favourite. Avatar-worthy.
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 XIX - Princes Have no Sense of Humor DoubleNegative fucked around with this message at 21:32 on Jan 21, 2021 |
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Se-cret tunnel! 
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