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nah they just believe they are freedom fighters because foreign countries are lack and white but domestic politics are complicated
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I'm more inclined to think the American liberal anti-communist in TYOOL 2021 leans more heavily towards Team Evil than Team Stupid, and when the "democracy advocate" they helped lionize openly outs themselves as another right wing weirdo, they just play dumb.
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is this the same guy who was supposed to do leftist reforms in mexico?
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he’s right. this is the same social media that pushed coup propaganda around venezuela and bolivia and deplatforms government accounts because they’re disliked by the state department. you either put up a great firewall like china, or create non-us social media outlets
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And I swear I heard people saying he'd be the Mexican Maduro.
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uninterrupted posted:he’s right. this is the same social media that pushed coup propaganda around venezuela and bolivia and deplatforms government accounts because they’re disliked by the state department. I was thinking about this a lot and honestly I can see where you're coming from. I think I'm just more preparing for my own friends to call me on the groupchat since I advocated for MORENA a lot a while back 
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MORENA is good but AMLO has been deeply disappointing as a president. hes been an austerity president and not even being completely ravaged by a pandemic has changed that
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I did get a laugh out of how completely unenthused the secretary of international relations sounded by the whole idea “Given that Mexico, through our president, has spoken out, we immediately made contact with others who think the same,” Ebrard said, noting they had heard from officials in France, Germany, the European Union, Africa, Latin America and Southeast Asia. “The president’s orders are to make contact with all of them, share this concern and work on coming up with a joint proposal,” Ebrard said. “We will see what is proposed.” basically yeah im only doing this because the president asked me to so im just gonna half rear end it
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I mean you can say he’s right for the other social media’s that got banned or whatever but that begs the question of why he ignored that stuff and cares now. I’m gonna guess real politic arguments if he is going to use the right wing media machine to his advantage! but they are about to dump Trump as he has no use
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Jan 15, 2021 23:29
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the PRI (corrupt legacy technocrats) PAN (middle-class northern catholics) and PRD (supposed leftists) are forming an electoral alliance against MORENA for the midterms. frankly shocked they can all work together, but lol at the PRD, what happened there
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I don't follow Mexican politics as much as I should, so I feel like I only hear when AMLO does dumb stuff. He seems to be making the right enemies though?
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the new coalition only strengthens the idea that pre-morena politics was an unideological good old boy's club imo
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Atrocious Joe posted:I don't follow Mexican politics as much as I should, so I feel like I only hear when AMLO does dumb stuff. He seems to be making the right enemies though? Granted, I wonder how much of it is just filtered through English language press. I think there has been some clear f'ups on the part of AMLO but also good calls. He is was really poo poo on for ending the drug war, but it was an already lost conflict that was only getting civilians caught in the crossfire. Likewise, his focus on the Mexican oil industry was justified, Mexico is going to be using oil for decades to come and needs more domestic refineries. In addition, he has actually increased a lot of social benefits to the average people and I think that is what pisses off the Mexican political establishment the most. His handling of COVID sucked and his austerity measures went too far, but there has been some necessary changes as well. Also, I think AMLO's soft stance on Trump communicates that he actually fears the Biden administration more, and looking at Biden's appointments...he may have a point. His approval rating also has recovered from its 2020 lows and Morena will probably still keep a majority, although it will be close. The PRD is mostly a shell party at this point and is polling in the 2-4% range after AMLO ditched it.
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AMLO is ABSOLUTELY correct to fear the Biden Administration more, he was actually one of the few people who was actually good at sucking up to Trump (probably because ultimately most people trying to suck up to Trump are trying to actively get him to care about something, and that goes against his base nature, and AMLO was instead sucking up to trump to basically get him to ignore Mexico, and ignoring poo poo he's not interested in IS his base nature) and that's not a strategy you can trust to work with anyone except Trump.
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Overall, the Trump administration's legacy in Latin America seems like it'll be pretty mixed. Trump and the people he empowered to make policy obviously wanted to strengthen political reaction across the region, but they made a lot of missteps. Lenin Moreno's heel turn and Bolsonaro's election were definitely defeats for progressive forces, but I'm not sure how much Trump contributed to either moment. Bolsonaro's victory seems most attributable to the lawfare started under Obama, and Moreno pivoted pretty early in Trump's term. Trump's aggressive policy of regime change and sanctions has definitely killed thousands of people, but it seems to largely have failed. The Cuban, Venezuelan, and Nicaraguan governments don't seem like they'll be going away anytime soon. MAS was able to return to power in Bolivia, which was a huge blow to reactionary forces. As the thread discussed, AMLO seems to have been able to keep US leadership uninterested in Mexican affairs, a big accomplishment considering Trump ran on demonizing Mexicans. Mexico was even able to fly Evo Morales out of Bolivia before the coup government could arrest him.
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Bolsonaro's victory hinged on the Antipetismo that was cultivated by the Brazilian media for almost two decades. That same media and the Brazilian oligarchy would have rather wanted one of their own from the PSDB or another of our "Liberal" parties who put a moderate social progressive patina while letting the entire country to be looted by the elites, but had to settle with him due to the sweeping wave of the New Right, just like the Republican Party machine had to put up with Trump. The two buffoons are symptoms of the same phenomena, and one did not result on the other.
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I heard AMLO’s still got high favorability bc dragging his feet on implementing leftist policy aside, he at least doesn’t seem actively evil like the ghouls he replaced; is that about right?
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not allying himself with the cartels means in general there have been fewer corruption scandals and dead journalists
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FrancisFukyomama posted:I heard AMLO’s still got high favorability bc dragging his feet on implementing leftist policy aside, he at least doesn’t seem actively evil like the ghouls he replaced; is that about right? yeah hes managed to hold on strong despite being totally despised by the media and the social networks. a big part of it its his personal style, the austerity hes applying to the goverment also applies to himself, and so he lives a very modest life and has scorned many of the luxuries and privilegies of power, like refusing to live in the presidential residence. tho i really dont give a poo poo about his personal style or him making the right enemies or whatever nonsese when people are loving starving in the streets and dying horribly in overcrowded, underfunded hospitals due to the complete lack of covid relief or even a plan to get out of this mess
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babypolis posted:yeah hes managed to hold on strong despite being totally despised by the media and the social networks. a big part of it its his personal style, the austerity hes applying to the goverment also applies to himself, and so he lives a very modest life and has scorned many of the luxuries and privilegies of power, like refusing to live in the presidential residence. what do you think of Clara Luz Flores Carrales
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i say swears online posted:what do you think of Clara Luz Flores Carrales i have no real opinion about her, other than her candidacy for MORENA seems pretty opportunistic. I remember my mom had some opinions about her, but i dont remember if they were good or bad, ill ask her next time i see her (shes way more knowledgeable about mexican politics than i am)
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it's really interesting but definitely something surface-level for me. when headed through i saw a lot of PT wall murals and was like "yeah they're cool" i enjoyed tracking el bronco's campaign last election
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i say swears online posted:it's really interesting but definitely something surface-level for me. when headed through i saw a lot of PT wall murals and was like "yeah they're cool" yeah i wish i paid more attention to it sometimes, but for one its usually depressing as hell, even more depressing than american politics. but the real reason is that theres like no good information sources. the mexican media is straight up garbage and its not like theres a forum full of thousands of psychos with the same mental problems as me who discuss mexican politics all day long
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that's a really good point. every time i saw a local paper i could look up the party that controlled it. much more direct than the states usually
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babypolis posted:the austerity hes applying to the goverment also applies to himself Isn't he laundering money through Pemex?
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hopefully Ecuador can have the same success through elections that Bolivia did in returning the left to power. In both cases the left never even lost an election to begin with~ Maybe this time they won't accidentally elect Judas again, should they win
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https://twitter.com/kgosztola/status/1351635431666941957 This is abhorrent.
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why can't they just move on from guaido. like setting aside how hosed up regime change is why do they want him and not some new person who is less of a joke
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Fast Luck posted:https://twitter.com/kgosztola/status/1351635431666941957 monstrous poo poo
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Jose posted:why can't they just move on from guaido. like setting aside how hosed up regime change is why do they want him and not some new person who is less of a joke Hes a loser who everybody hates but has impeccable credentials so they see a lot of themselves in him
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Epic High Five posted:Hes a loser who everybody hates but has impeccable credentials so they see a lot of themselves in him But he looks great in the pictures, so young and dynamic! That's like 80% of what being a President entails, right? Horseshoe theory posted:Isn't he laundering money through Pemex? Source please. I follow both the pro and anti-AMLO news, and this is the first time I've heard of this. It would go contrary to what he's been doing in his life since, well, forever. I'm not particularly worried about Biden regarding how he will treat Mexico, since it seems more probable that he'll want to deal first with making the U.S. government function again, the dumpster fire of their COVID handling, and all those potential domestic terrorists who will rally behind Trump.
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https://twitter.com/J_LIVRES/status/1351721197936013313 venezuelan emergency oxygen supplies arriving in Manaus to supply hospitals dealing with the new covid wave, there have been cases of mass death in respirator wards, covid and non-covid, as oxygen ran out last week
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Kal-L posted:I'm not particularly worried about Biden regarding how he will treat Mexico, since it seems more probable that he'll want to deal first with making the U.S. government function again, the dumpster fire of their COVID handling, and all those potential domestic terrorists who will rally behind Trump. Biden spent decades making the US government "not function" in the ways that Trump exploited. Biden's COVID response is to maybe vaccinate less than a third of the country and then slam all the kids back into schools, giving them permanent blood vessel, heart, and lung damage for the rest of their lives. Biden's already planning to back the Nazis in the Ukraine again.
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