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bawfuls posted:I’ve seen ballots I generally agree with in the past. But the details are ultimately irrelevant because everyone will have a different subjective view on these things. What would be improved by 6 guys at the HoF deciding instead of 400 writers? It would still be the subjective opinion of a small group of people. Oh absolutely, but I guess what I'm asking is how a Hall of Famer can be measured at all; I understand everyone has their own rules, and if there's enough crossover, deciding on a HOF-er is a good decision when you can get so many crazy people to agree. The problem is that so many writers don't publicize how they decide or how they vote. I'm fine with blank ballots as long as we understand why. I had my own feelings on what a HOF-er is, but after a while, it just didn't matter when you had people enshrined who were clearly not up to the high bar just a few years previous.
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Yeah the categories of BBWAA voter now appear to be: -extremely self important -trolls looking for attention -old guys carrying out a crusade over steroids -people complaining about having to make subjective decisions -people who say they don’t care/the process is bad so they refuse to participate Presumably there are a few who just vote and don’t make a big stink about it?
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Pitchers and catchers in three weeks! Or maybe not!!
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Caring about steroids at this point is extremely silly since Selig is in the hall Maybe I get it 10 years ago
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bawfuls posted:Presumably there are a few who just vote and don’t make a big stink about it? I think there's plenty, especially among the sabermetrics crowd. Christina Kahrl's 2020 ballot (I'm pretty sure she posted her 2021 ballot too, but I can't immediately find it): https://twitter.com/ChristinaKahrl/status/1212788546983153673 And Jaffe's 2021 ballot: https://blogs.fangraphs.com/jay-jaffes-2021-hall-of-fame-ballot/
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Poque posted:Dan Le Batard was the only good HOF voter ever
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Sydin posted:https://twitter.com/CheapSeatFan/status/1354072693734334466 This feels like an appropriate time to link Defector's write up of how lovely the Ricketts family is. I loving hate the Cubs owners. https://defector.com/the-ricketts-kids-dont-know-how-to-care-for-their-toys/ quote:Todd did plenty of kvetching of his own, at one point writing, “…my kids live in the same neighborhood and go to the same school as Tom’s kids and I don’t want them to have to constantly explaining that there are equal owners when they are told that their uncle owns the Cubs.” When describing how Tom reacted to this complaint on a phone call, Todd wrote, “I have to say, I was shocked and disappointed with aggressive, hostile tone in which Tom responded. In fact, I would call it an ‘uninvitation’ to be part of this process.”
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The Pussy Boss posted:Pitchers and catchers in three weeks! Or maybe not!! Schroedinger’s Spring Training Featuring the Schroe-Dinger Machine, where the ball is both a home run and a long fly out.
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Bird in a Blender posted:This feels like an appropriate time to link Defector's write up of how lovely the Ricketts family is. I loving hate the Cubs owners. Could be worse, could be owned by a Dolan
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GPTribefan posted:Schroedinger’s Spring Training When is ball technically a homerun? Once it lands over the fence? What if a ball was hit into stable orbit, would the game be put on hold indefinitely?
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more falafel please posted:I think there's plenty, especially among the sabermetrics crowd. Christina Kahrl's 2020 ballot (I'm pretty sure she posted her 2021 ballot too, but I can't immediately find it): That jaffe article is good
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more falafel please posted:I think there's plenty, especially among the sabermetrics crowd. Christina Kahrl's 2020 ballot (I'm pretty sure she posted her 2021 ballot too, but I can't immediately find it): how do you do sabermetrics stuff and leave off Clemens
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I guess maybe she cut him because of the grooming grossness? Its hard to see any other reason to include Pettitte and PED guys but not Clemens.
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elentar posted:how do you do sabermetrics stuff and leave off Clemens https://twitter.com/ChristinaKahrl/status/1212792717341810693
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Sydin posted:https://twitter.com/CheapSeatFan/status/1354072693734334466 This isn't even net spending, right? Like the Yu trade alone would put the NL Central in the negative?
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https://twitter.com/GDubCub/status/1354547961150238721 https://twitter.com/GDubCub/status/1354545090543427586 https://twitter.com/JesseRogersESPN/status/1354549472169250819 lmao cubs wouldn't even offer deferred money what a joke. Not that I think Lester is going to have some huge bounce back year or anything but way to slap one of your all time greatest FA signings of franchise history in the face.
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Still! Clemens is top ten in all-time WAR, he's as inner-circle as any pitcher
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Sydin posted:https://twitter.com/CheapSeatFan/status/1354072693734334466 Someone needs to hire a bouncy house company to setup one in Jed Hoyer's parking spot, again, because this team is a bad joke. My dad pointed out that the incentive for Hoyer is not to win in year 1 but in the last year's of his contract and I hate it when he's right. I'm really excited about drafting the next Cory Spangenberg. (I spelled that poo poo right on the first try) tadashi fucked around with this message at 02:08 on Jan 28, 2021 |
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bawfuls posted:Which is why she left him off to help give votes to more borderline candidates who need the support to stay above 5% But she also voted for Bonds, so I don't think that holds?
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Sydin posted:lmao cubs wouldn't even offer deferred money what a joke. Not that I think Lester is going to have some huge bounce back year or anything but way to slap one of your all time greatest FA signings of franchise history in the face. Lester is 4 years removed from his last sub-4.0 FIP season and is 36, I can't blame the Cubs for not being all that interested
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Bwahahaha. So did the NL Central just agree to a race to the bottom? Interesting strategy with two guaranteed playoff spots in that idiotic playoff bracket. Could totally see a .495 cardinals team bullshitting their way to a ring.
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There is a single pitcher on the Cubs projected to have a FIP under 4.00 under any of the projection systems Fangraphs lists lol.
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:But she also voted for Bonds, so I don't think that holds?
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Hand Knit posted:https://twitter.com/ekoreen/status/1354618994528030720 https://mobile.twitter.com/bnicholsonsmith/status/1354620368934330379 They are not.
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bawfuls posted:She had space for one but not both? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Maybe the aforementioned grooming is more important to her than roids when it comes to the character clause
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Hand Knit posted:https://twitter.com/ekoreen/status/1354618994528030720 He's a solid swing man/ back end starter guy, it won't be anything big but it might not be total nobodies (edit: ok they are nobodies). Lmao at his stats from last year though, gotta be some of the worst luck I've ever seen. 37.8% HR per fly ball percentage! The inflated .341 BABIP and 59% LOB percentage almost seem normal in comparison. The spread between his ERA (9.65), FIP (7.76) and xFIP (4.15) is also something else. Either its low sample size craziness or he became the pitching equivalent of Job last year.
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