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Mostly got my controls set up for tanking and it's fun! Just been messing around in quick missions. It feels very atmospheric when an enemy is shooting rounds into your hull and you haven't spotted them yet. I've been using my joystick for turret control and W/A/S/D for driving and that seems to work well so far.
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Did they finally introduce native joystick controls for the turret, or are you using an app like joy-to-key?
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Jan 23, 2021 14:30
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Trillhouse posted:Helpful tip for new tank module owners: The Escape menu has an additional option when you're in a tank: "Station Notes". It gives you a rundown of the controls for that position in the tank, as well as a bunch of details for that specific tank. So it will explain how the range-finder works in whatever tank you're using (since most of them operate differently), what the different gauges do, etc. It's pretty useful if you're trying to learn the specifics of a new tank, even if the basic controls are all the same. Holy gently caress, why don't they have that for the planes? It's such a pain in the rear end figuring out like, which radiator controls each one operates, or what trim types each plane supports, etc.
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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:Holy gently caress, why don't they have that for the planes? It's such a pain in the rear end figuring out like, which radiator controls each one operates, or what trim types each plane supports, etc. ....When you're right, you're right. Planes absolutely need something similar. Theres this mod that I like a lot. It helps. But trying to figure out which binds control which trim or radiator, or how much you even need to use it, is infuriating.
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Jan 23, 2021 17:22
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Gewehr 43 posted:Did they finally introduce native joystick controls for the turret, or are you using an app like joy-to-key? It's native now. Yeah the "Stations Notes" section is really useful as a quick reference guide. Would love if they added something like that for planes that had hot-keys and maybe even some basic engine parameters.
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Jan 23, 2021 17:51
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How do you command your driver while in command position? The F commands seem to do nothing?
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Jan 23, 2021 17:55
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I've hungered for a good WW2 tank MP sim for, well, forever really. Are goons playing consistently in tank battles? Much of a Euro TZ presence?
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punishedkissinger posted:How do you command your driver while in command position? The F commands seem to do nothing? Hop into the driver's seat, hit A to turn on Autopilot, and THEN he'll listen to you. Even with the Autopilot realism checkbox off, that's still how it works. If he's not listening to you when you click on the ground and tell it to move there, tell him to "Move according to Mission" or whatever F1 on the Movement menu is. Then he should listen to your clicks-and-move-to-areas. The other movement commands seem to override the ability to pay attention to your "go to ground" order until you tell him to pay attention to the mission again. I'd slaughter for a clickable wheel for this poo poo instead of the loving F row, though. Squiggle fucked around with this message at 19:34 on Jan 23, 2021 |
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Jan 23, 2021 19:26
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Squiggle posted:Hop into the driver's seat, hit A to turn on Autopilot, and THEN he'll listen to you. Even with the Autopilot realism checkbox off, that's still how it works. Thanks! I also figured out how to drive from the commander position. Had to do a bit of remapping to make it comfortable though.
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Jan 23, 2021 19:35
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Having one of the Thurstmaster throttles with the paddles for pedal/rudder control is a godsend for the tanks - I've got acceleration/reverse on the throttle itself, the finger paddles for turning, and one of the thumb HATs manages my visor adjustments so I can keep my other hand on either the stick for the gunner-work or mouse for the other seats.
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Jan 23, 2021 19:49
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It's funny using rudder pedals to control the tank after using them for warbird rudders. Anything but the slightest touch during a takeoff in a P51 send you careening off the runway, but tanks control like...tanks. You have to jam it all the way to turn at any reasonable speed. Tank drifting is fun too.
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Jan 23, 2021 19:56
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Do the scripted campaigns actually branch at all?
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Jan 24, 2021 02:51
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While the 'old' maps aren't optimised for tanks, more multiplayer servers like Finnish Virtual Pilots allow tank spawns, for a fun combined arms experience
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Jan 24, 2021 06:01
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Having a lot of fun with this. Started a career as a VVS pilot during the battle of Moscow and earned 3,000 Rubles by downing three Bf-109s and blowing up a truck on my first mission using a noble I-16. What are some good YouTube channels to learn more about landing, dogfighting, and so on? The Desert Wings expansion is for Cliffs of Dover, the old game, right? Would love to do some North African battles but if it's for the old game I can pass.
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Jan 24, 2021 20:02
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The Air Combat Tutorial Library by Reqiuem is pretty much the YT channel for that stuff.
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Jan 24, 2021 20:03
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https://youtube.com/c/SheriffsSimShack I really like Sheriff for tutorial videos. He has some really good info about convergence settings.
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Jan 24, 2021 20:17
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Yeah both of the above are nice and what I've used as well.
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Jan 24, 2021 20:33
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Simply play three thousand hours of War Thunder until you are familiar with basic flight mechanics 
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my kinda ape posted:Simply play three thousand hours of War Thunder until you are familiar with basic flight mechanics 
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Jan 25, 2021 08:52
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In Career mode, can I "finish" a mission in the air or (if I don't want to manually land) do I have to turn on autopilot and wait for 10 minutes as it takes me to the runway to land?
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Jan 25, 2021 23:43
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DrPop posted:In Career mode, can I "finish" a mission in the air or (if I don't want to manually land) do I have to turn on autopilot and wait for 10 minutes as it takes me to the runway to land? I believe so long as you hit finish over friendly territory it will be fine. You may get a point reduction if you care about that, but you can continue your career like normal. If you hit finish over enemy territory you'll be captured.
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Jan 25, 2021 23:46
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I think of it more that you get a bonus if you land, but yeah as long as you're over friendly territory and I THINK not within some specific threat-range of enemy fighters, you can Finish out. If the button's green, you get credit.
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Jan 25, 2021 23:47
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Ok thanks! I did that on one and it said my plane was destroyed where I finished the mission (over friendly territory), but IDK whether that actually has any kind of effect.
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Jan 26, 2021 02:32
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DrPop posted:Ok thanks! I did that on one and it said my plane was destroyed where I finished the mission (over friendly territory), but IDK whether that actually has any kind of effect. Might have been shot up so much it counted as an airframe loss? I'm not sure if that's actually a thing in the game as I have not played the single player.
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Jan 26, 2021 04:09
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Does IL-2 have soft body physics for Flying Circus like rise of flight?
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Like, they get shot up different since they're plywood and canvas and they fall apart in realistic places? It does! Ugh, I set up Paul Wilson's Campaign Generator wrong; I had a great first mission scouting the front lines in a P-38 with a P-47 escort, got into a fight, downed a 109, lost an engine, completed the mission and flew aaaall the way back to base, landed, aaaand the text mission log option hadn't stuck so there was no result to import back into PWCG. It was a LOT of flying, and I felt so demoralized that I hadn't saved it, that I just gave up for the night. But now that I see what it's doing, PWCG is pretty great. Does it wind up giving any high altitude patrol missions, though? Everything in my trial runs was 5000-feet-or-less, but they were all attack and front-line missions with Bulge-style weather, so...that kind of makes sense. Squiggle fucked around with this message at 18:45 on Jan 28, 2021 |
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Yes, high altitude missions are part of PWCG. If you don't like the mission it generates, just hit scrub mission at any point during the briefing and you'll get something else. Gamey, but better than a ground attack mission at 2am in a P-47.
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I picked up Stalingrad, Kuban and bodenplatte on the present Steam sale. I haven't played iL2 since 1946, over a decade ago and I'm really excited to try it out. I managed to buy the T16000m hotas and rudder pedals, and am in an order queue for a 3080 gpu - overall just really stoked to get stuck in. Is there a goon server or a public server recommendation for multiplayer? I'm based in the UK.
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Squiggle posted:Like, they get shot up different since they're plywood and canvas and they fall apart in realistic places? It does! I mean that wings and plane bodies bend, for example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4p2CVnkJ_yI&t=112s If not, not a huge issue. Just something that really impressed me about rise of flight.
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TescoBag posted:I mean that wings and plane bodies bend, for example: Here's a video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mpiUk7xTUk&t=42s
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General Ledger posted:Is there a goon server or a public server recommendation for multiplayer? I'm based in the UK. There are a bunch of very active servers, just take into account that all of them will have more or less expert settings. In my experience:
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Noosphere posted:There are a bunch of very active servers, just take into account that all of them will have more or less expert settings. In my experience: Thank you very much for this
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General Ledger posted:Thank you very much for this You're welcome ! I'm flying most evenings (euro time).
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I'm often flying around 20.00 GMT on Wings of Liberty, my callsign is [DSB]Fusek.
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What's the current line of thinking on entry level HOTAS setups? I'm looking to buy one for casual flying, but turns out I picked literally the worst time in history to do so because mostly they're all sold out everywhere. The Thrustmaster T16000M would've been my first pick, but they're sold out and won't be in stock until April. The set with the pedals in addition to the throttle and joystick is available in extremely limited numbers, but for pretty high prices (230€ for the set). The other realistic option would be the Logitech X52 or the X52 Pro, which are also available in limited numbers and seemingly retail price (133€ and 189€ respectively). Honestly right now the X52 is looking like the best pick due to the low price, but does the X52 Pro offer enough added value to make up for the price difference? Or is the T16000M better to a point where just getting the set with the pedals is worth it?
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I have an x52 pro, no idea difference over the x52. Joystick and twist worked great. Grip was a bit floppy on the shaft. Throttle and dial pots got jittery. Too few hats. I modded on 2 extra hats and buttons to my stick. T16000000000 has enough hats on the throttle, but next to none on the stick. Might be OK for Il-2, but having more on the stick lets you use a shift key to add extra bindings to the hats on the stick. Keyboard is pretty useful, given all the functions you might need. If you don't want to invest in a Virpil, probably best to settle on whatever you can find in stock, in your price range, that you think you'll be satisfied with (even something used).
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Yeah, don't neglect the second hand market. I got an X52 Pro in decent condition for 50 chf. Joysticks are like sports equipment: people will buy them and then bounce off the game, so they will try to sell for low prices, just to be rid of the things.
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Shaman Tank Spec posted:What's the current line of thinking on entry level HOTAS setups? I'm looking to buy one for casual flying, but turns out I picked literally the worst time in history to do so because mostly they're all sold out everywhere. In TYOOL the x52 is not a great purchase for any price over 50-70 dollars. Please do not do it. As far as T160000 HOTAS goes, The 230 euros is a good value for the set, and well worth it. You will not be disappointed in any way. Depending where you are, but I'm going to guess that almost any European Country has still that same 230 euro set with T16000 Hotas and pedals, so don't look at just your own country. Like Italian Amazon, showing one left: https://www.amazon.it/THR-T-16000M-...11929191&sr=8-4 So if just looking at a stick, also look in other countries. X52 is not nearly as good as the 16000, and the difference is night and day. It is worth it to wait. The X52 is overpriced for what it is today's environment of widely available options. Vahakyla fucked around with this message at 15:10 on Jan 29, 2021 |
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Seconding the 2nd hand market as smart. X52 Pro vs standard; from what I hazily remember the standard had low quality plastic that cracked and broke off where the pro didn't - mind you this was the first generation production Saitek sticks from like a decade+ ago. I bought my old Pro then and it was luxurious and cool. For a year. Then it (1st gen Saitek, with the PS/2 connectors  ) got bad. Sticky buttons, non functioning buttons, jitter and drift, broken leds and on and on.The throttle, somehow, had almost no issues and I still us it. The stick, not so much. For the price of the modern X52s you can get the VKB Gladiators when they're in stock. Even the simplest of the VKBs are nicer than most every other stick you can buy, and that's before comparing sticks on the same price level. Gladiators are the Toyota Landcruiser (Honda Cub? Old diesel Mercedes?) of joysticks. People consistently recommend the T16000 as a good basic stick, so that seems like the safe choice for good-enough-stick-want-it-now.
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For new folks, come join the AirGoons discord: https://discord.gg/aDTKseXB8K We're mostly North America based, but there are some UK pilots who have been looking for wingmen. We don't usually have organised flights, but there's often one or more flying on a midweek evening. Teamwork is like cheating in flight sims! Alternatively, many of the large servers have their own discords for voice comms, and the game also now has SRS integration for radio comms
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