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One of those Youtube cinema essay people pointed out how Spielberg is lowkey one of the best "single shot" directors. They aren't as long as the famous scenes in Children of Men or True Detective but a movie like War of the Worlds will have a scene that goes on for like 45 seconds and you don't even realize the camera hasn't cut away the whole time. Spielberg uses it to ramp up the tension and dread but it keeps you invested in the story since you're not thinking about it being a one take.
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Stumbled on this article the other day: https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/the-expanse-the-challenges-behind-filming-winnipesaukee.html/ Apparently the Winnipesaukee set was three different locations, all of which are part of the shootout. The flyover is somewhere in Ontario, I think; I forget where the exterior scenes were filmed but the personnel entrance/hangar door was built in place where there was already a garage door for that house; the tunnel to the shuttle was a tunnel under Ontario Tech University; and the interior hangar scenes with the shuttle were all filmed in a wind tunnel somewhere. There's at least one semi-obvious cut in the shootout just after Amos closes the metal double-doors and the camera pans quickly left to point down the tunnel to the hangar. I noticed the first cut there when watching the episode on the first go-around, but missed the second cut. It was still a pretty impressive set piece--there were a lot of moving parts to include, they were firing actual blanks, and apparently it was -34°F each night they filmed.
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Baron Fuzzlewhack posted:Stumbled on this article the other day: https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/the-expanse-the-challenges-behind-filming-winnipesaukee.html/ Yeah, I didn't want to burst any bubbles, but I think there are about 3 sneaky cuts in there.
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That's similar to Charlie Work. It's two different sets. There's the interior set which is the bar, and then an exterior set which I think is actually in Philly. So they had to do creative cuts when Charlie goes from from inside to outside and vice versa.
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Jan 31, 2021 02:53
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Cojawfee posted:That's similar to Charlie Work. It's two different sets. There's the interior set which is the bar, and then an exterior set which I think is actually in Philly. So they had to do creative cuts when Charlie goes from from inside to outside and vice versa.
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TychoCelchuuu posted:Can't they just cut from inside to outside like 99% of films and TV? I don't see why they'd have to be creative. "Interior and exterior are two different sets" is the typical way of filming. It's more spectacular to do oner's, even simulated oner's. That said, every time I see a shot of excessive duration extended thanks to digital shot stitching, or one of those ugly whip pans, or "sneaky" zooms into the smalls of people's backs, I get disappointed. Regardless of whether the sequence works or not, it just ends up feeling like a failure. (There are always exceptions, e.g. if the shot's already been going for ten minutes, as in Rope.) Neither of The Expanses two big oner's were achieved without digital trickery, but I thought last year's was quite good regardless. And I appreciated the effort here; it's one of the few moments where I felt the Earth bound story was as viscerally gruelling as it needed to be.
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Possible cuts at: 38:41 (headshot guy and quick pan) 39:04 (quick pan from still of treeline - set change to garage entrance) 39:21 had a regular cut to work in the close up pyrotechnic affect of Amos taking shrapnel 39:46 has another set change cut 39:54 quick pan cut 39:57 another quick pan cut 40:07 camera blockage by Errich is another possible cut 40:41 another quick pan cut and back <edit> Open Source Idiom posted:Neither of The Expanses two big oner's were achieved without digital trickery, but I thought last year's was quite good regardless. Woa - what was the single shot in S4? I didn't even notice. gfarrell80 fucked around with this message at 03:28 on Jan 31, 2021 |
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TychoCelchuuu posted:Can't they just cut from inside to outside like 99% of films and TV? I don't see why they'd have to be creative. "Interior and exterior are two different sets" is the typical way of filming. Because one of the points of that episode was to have long continuous shots. Then it aired and just happened to have similar drums to Birdman and everyone thought they were just ripping off Birdman.
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gfarrell80 posted:Woa - what was the single shot in S4? I didn't even notice. Bobbie's action sequence in the final episode.
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Open Source Idiom posted:Bobbie's action sequence in the final episode. Ah yes! Yep, had a bit of trickery in that one too but it was very well done.
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Baron Fuzzlewhack posted:Stumbled on this article the other day: https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/the-expanse-the-challenges-behind-filming-winnipesaukee.html/ Muskoka is basically just Ontario's Winnipesaukee. Lots of rich people have cottages up there, regular people too. Friend of mines parents decided to move up there full time, not realizing that Unlike the GTA, no one comes along and plows the roads during the winter.
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Jan 31, 2021 03:43
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The only way I know of Winnipesaukee is through What About Bob. Bill Murray as Bob randomly and compulsively popping up during the episode would've saved it for me, can't lie. Baby steps to the escape shuttle.
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What, like similar to his role in Zombieland?
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twistedmentat posted:Muskoka is basically just Ontario's Winnipesaukee. gesundheit
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TheOmegaWalrus posted:The only way I know of Winnipesaukee is through What About Bob. Glad I am not alone on this one.
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I liked the not-so-subtle 2001 homage on the shuttle's control panel between Erich and Clarissa. Another thing I just learned: Erich's stump isn't CG. Jacob Mundell really was born without a left hand.
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Props to them for not armwashing the role and giving an unknown a chance.
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Dick Jones posted:I liked the not-so-subtle 2001 homage on the shuttle's control panel between Erich and Clarissa. This too: https://twitter.com/WebKarls/status/1355510765864837122
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Dick Jones posted:Another thing I just learned: Erich's stump isn't CG. Jacob Mundell really was born without a left hand. His acting is atrocious unfortunately
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Jan 31, 2021 13:12
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I thought he was pretty good
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Yeah, that dude rules and is one of the best parts of this season. Plays the total prick role really, really well.
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Opinions are opinions and in my opinion he’s a good actor.
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Anita Dickinme posted:Opinions are opinions and in my opinion he’s a good actor. Yeah he's absolutely selling me on a character who isn't evil at core, but has had to climb through a mountain of adversity to get to to the only opportunity open to him in this world, which is head of a crime syndicate. He's playing ruthless-but-good-to-those-around-him very well.
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Cojawfee posted:Because one of the points of that episode was to have long continuous shots. Then it aired and just happened to have similar drums to Birdman and everyone thought they were just ripping off Birdman. THe Expanse's writers and directors are not very competent so I suspect they did just rip off Birdman.
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Panderfringe posted:THe Expanse's writers and directors are not very competent so I suspect they did just rip off Birdman. Lol Imagine typing this out and thinking before you press the post button "this is a good post, people will be glad I made it" 
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Why wouldn't you rip off Harvey Birdman Attorney at Law
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TychoCelchuuu posted:Can't they just cut from inside to outside like 99% of films and TV? I don't see why they'd have to be creative. "Interior and exterior are two different sets" is the typical way of filming. The best version of this is the one-shot in Hard Boiled where they run into an elevator for a minute and the crew rapidly changes the set behind the doors while it's "moving"
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Azhais posted:Why wouldn't you rip off Harvey Birdman Attorney at Law Spin-off of the expanse where all the villains are on trial for their space crimes
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Didja get that thing I sent’cha *hand terminal beeps*
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Panderfringe posted:THe Expanse's writers and directors are not very competent so I suspect they did just rip off Birdman. dude, I agree with you that this season is a mess and I actually hate the source material (Book 5) it was based on, but to say that the writers and directors are incompetent is a stretch. Johnny Truant posted:Lol Social media apps should have a mandatory confirmation 5 minutes after the initial post asking whether you are sure you still want to post it. TommyGun85 fucked around with this message at 19:29 on Jan 31, 2021 |
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Panderfringe posted:THe Expanse's writers and directors are not very competent so I suspect they did just rip off Birdman. There have been some terrible and stupid takes posted in this thread before but my god dude
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The Klowner posted:His acting is atrocious unfortunately 
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Infidelicious posted:Generally you're not trying to eat people meat, and maiming / wounding them to render them combat ineffective is acceptable. JFC this is a presumptuous take.
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CLAM DOWN posted:There have been some terrible and stupid takes posted in this thread before but my god dude Dude's just been shitposting for a while now, I think. The Klowner posted:His acting is atrocious unfortunately Any particular reason why his acting doesn't vibe with you? I've thought it was really good, but I also haven't had any issues with any acting this season and there's been a few instances where people have mostly agreed that some things were kind of wooden, so I'm genuinely curious.
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My wife commented on him being a pretty poor actor, but I thought he was fine given the role he was playing like other people in this thread have said. People have different standards for what constitutes good and bad acting -- I think I tend not to judge too much because I've watched a lot of sci-fi.
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The character struck me as someone who has had to be ruthless in order to become powerful, but it's all an act and he probably has trouble being ruthless with people he cares about. Because of that perspective on the character, although at times he seems unconvincing, for me that's actually part of the character. I wonder if that's what people are picking up on. This way of viewing the character isn't explicitly stated so someone else could easily see him as someone who's meant to be a threatening mob boss and consider it poor acting that he's often unconvincing. For me though, it works really well.
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The actors are really good for the most part. It's just Marco that sucks rear end. Just bring back David Straitharn to play Marco in season 6.
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Mu Zeta posted:The actors are really good for the most part. It's just Marco that sucks rear end. Just bring back David Straitharn to play Marco in season 6. He was really amazing in his "Frenemy" role as Asford https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ck44vfyUBaE
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Erich just feels a bit too young for the role. To me he reads like a young hotshot who thinks he's king poo poo, and is about to get smacked down severely. He's not as hard and grizzled as everybody seems to be treating him. When he's slightly outside that mob-boss persona he's loving great though - his bits with Peaches in the cockpit own, as does his "I'm gonna be a lot nicer to her in future"
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