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Neodoomium posted:Someone teach Michael Cole a different exclamation than "You gotta be kidding me" OH MYYYYY!!!
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When they try to give Cole something new to say it always ends up being one of those corny pre-written exclamations for big spots FOR THE LOVE OF MANKIND
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Feb 1, 2021 20:43
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Feb 1, 2021 20:46
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Astro7x posted:Like cool, Damien Priest came in as a rookie and took out Miz, Morrison, Kane, and Elias. The kind of rookie who's been wrestling since 2005 and has been in major promotions since 2015, and has been in NXT since 2018. I really hate how WWE treats people's accomplishments outside of WWE.
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Feb 1, 2021 20:50
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Astro7x posted:Damien Priest came in as a rookie He's 38
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Feb 1, 2021 20:56
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I haven't watched since Mania, and pretty much the only WWE content I've watched for a few years now are RR/EC/WM, but I always catch the Rumble match because it's usually fun. This wasn't fun. It was boring safe booking. The women's one was better, but had so much filler in it. WWE still sucks. Is Akira Tozawa seriously relegated to a background extra for a comedy belt? gently caress.
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Feb 1, 2021 20:58
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Gotta spend a lifetime grinding the cartilage out of your knees before you’re ready for the bigtime
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Rarity posted:He's 38 Why, that's even younger than the Redneck Rookie AJ Styles!
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Erebus posted:When they try to give Cole something new to say it always ends up being one of those corny pre-written exclamations for big spots The worst thing he does is spit out awful nicknames. I know that’s from Vince, but still. No one actually says/said EATER OF WORLDS or APEX PREDATOR or BEAST INCARNATE or LUNATIC FRINGE but him, do they
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Feb 1, 2021 21:06
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Hasn't that been Vince's thing forever? I feel like someone (maybe Bryan and Vinny on their Superstars/SNME retro reviews) keeps commenting on how commentary will call people like Ronnie Garvin and Pez Whatley "talented young newcomers" and similar things even as they're pushing 40 and into the second or third decades of their careers. I grant you that these guys were never in line to main event or probably even contend for the IC title, but it's the same "actively ignore the world outside the WWF even when it is blindingly obvious" mentality.
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Feb 1, 2021 21:07
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Edge & Christian posted:Hasn't that been Vince's thing forever? I feel like someone (maybe Bryan and Vinny on their Superstars/SNME retro reviews) keeps commenting on how commentary will call people like Ronnie Garvin and Pez Whatley "talented young newcomers" and similar things even as they're pushing 40 and into the second or third decades of their careers. I just remembered Carlos Colon at the ‘93 Rumble, who must’ve been around 50, being called a youngster by Gorilla Monsoon.
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Feb 1, 2021 21:11
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Rarity posted:He's 38 loving WHAT? Lmao I thought that guy was actually a "young up and comer". I guess he still technically is by WWE standards.
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Edge & Christian posted:Hasn't that been Vince's thing forever? I feel like someone (maybe Bryan and Vinny on their Superstars/SNME retro reviews) keeps commenting on how commentary will call people like Ronnie Garvin and Pez Whatley "talented young newcomers" and similar things even as they're pushing 40 and into the second or third decades of their careers. That's more Vince wanting WWF/WWE to be the only world so nothing else counts. In terms of top level pushes in the past Vince wanted young guys. He tried to move on from Hogan when he was only 36 at Mania 6 and just as recently winded Cena down so much that Cena went to Hollywood.
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Red posted:I just remembered Carlos Colon at the ‘93 Rumble, who must’ve been around 50, being called a youngster by Gorilla Monsoon. If I know anything about old men, it's that they'll call anyone even slightly younger than them a kid or a young man or something similar. You hit a certain point and everybody else is young.
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Feb 1, 2021 21:20
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There was a point that Edge and Priest were squaring off and Cole yelled "EDGE IS LOOKING AT THE FUTURE OF THE WWE" and it's just an incredibly depressing sentiment.
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Feb 1, 2021 21:21
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remember when michael cole called two black guys a couple of big ol' bulls
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It's often observed, but the level to which WWE has failed at building new stars is genuinely remarkable. There's some degree of a natural progression to midcard title level if people are talented enough, but once they get there, they just sit there in a holding pattern. I looked back at the Wrestlemania 32 seven way ladder match, from five years ago. The seven guys in that match were Zack Ryder, Dolph Ziggler, Kevin Owens, and Sami Zayn, Sin Cara, Stardust and The Miz. The only one of those guys to advance up the card in WWE is Kevin Owens, who went from midcarder to upper midcarder. Every other guy on that list is in the same or a worse spot, apart from Cody who had to leave the company to succeed. Obviously there isn't room at the top for everyone, but midcard titles like this are meant to be proving grounds. If one midcard guy doesn't move up, maybe there was something wrong with that guy. If no midcard guys move up, there's something wrong with your process.
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Seth Rollins posted:remember when michael cole called two black guys a couple of big ol' bulls do we need to check cole’s browser history or vince’s
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Lamuella posted:It's often observed, but the level to which WWE has failed at building new stars is genuinely remarkable. There's some degree of a natural progression to midcard title level if people are talented enough, but once they get there, they just sit there in a holding pattern. Seems relevant: https://twitter.com/BrandonThurston/status/1356308768896774144
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Feb 1, 2021 21:47
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 but instead it's Vince and the chart is age of performer. I guess the word is like "olds" or something I don't know.
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Feb 1, 2021 21:48
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When your demo is people in their late 50 and 60s then Edge is a spring chicken.
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Rarity posted:I think the Alexa gimmick might play better if they hadn't given it to the tiniest woman on the roster? tiny people doing big guy power moves is cool as hell, but WWE had to ruin it! the transformation being interrupted by just getting dumped over the top rope was funny though.
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your friend wicka posted:Seems relevant: 2017 had Goldberg, Jericho, Big Show, Mark Henry, and Undertaker in it and was still on average younger than this year 
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sticklefifer posted:Is Akira Tozawa seriously relegated to a background extra for a comedy belt? gently caress. yes and they put him in a ninja outfit too
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oldpainless posted:IT IS! IT'S BOSS TIME!
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Dropping first or last names for a mononym has always been dumb and bad, but I'm guessing they only got rid of Matt Riddle's first name for SEO purposes because it's harder to Google that he's a sex criminal.
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I’ve brought it up before but it’s really dire how few guys under 30 they have. The main roster age problem is well documented but even NXT has a lot of guys in their mid to late 30s that are just treading water there. Punishment Martinez is even 38 years old and he just got called up. There’s obviously exceptions but usually wrestlers are hitting that combinations of their physical peak and knowledge of how to work in their early to mid 30s and the guys in that age group are just being wasted in the midcard carousel now and little hope of this improving any time soon.
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your friend wicka posted:Seems relevant: I bet 2020 is only down because they didn't have the Saudi shows where they drag out Shawn/HHH/Taker/Goldberg/etc.
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CopywrightMMXI posted:I’ve brought it up before but it’s really dire how few guys under 30 they have. The main roster age problem is well documented but even NXT has a lot of guys in their mid to late 30s that are just treading water there. Punishment Martinez is even 38 years old and he just got called up. There’s obviously exceptions but usually wrestlers are hitting that combinations of their physical peak and knowledge of how to work in their early to mid 30s and the guys in that age group are just being wasted in the midcard carousel now and little hope of this improving any time soon. This is especially jarring when you compare it to how many young guys AEW has. I made a half joking comment in the AEW thread last week that they could do a hell of an 8 man tournament just with their under 25s (Jungle Boy, MJF, Lee Johnson, Alan Angels, Darius and Dante Martin, Marq Quen and Isiah Kassidy) and the more I think about it the less joking it feels.
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The only reason Edge became as popular as he did was because all the Attitude Era stars stepped away from the company.
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Dango Bango posted:I bet 2020 is only down because they didn't have the Saudi shows where they drag out Shawn/HHH/Taker/Goldberg/etc. Yeah I had the exact same thought, I bet 2021 is even older than 2019.
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That was my first WWE PPV in nearly two years and were they always that bad with the ads? I remember they used to show ads during the preshow but I don't remember that many during the actual PPV itself. Was the commentary always that poo poo too? It's barely a step up from the old Smackdown games.
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I still can't get over the 30-second ad read Cole had to do when Rey came out. One of the weirdest things I've heard on commentary – everyone else just shuts down and has to ignore everything going on because they have to read this script and can't break out of it at all. So bizarre.
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I thought Edge and Christian were kayfabe brothers, did they give up on that and now they're just buddies?
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Mons Hubris posted:I thought Edge and Christian were kayfabe brothers, did they give up on that and now they're just buddies? They retconned it to best friends when Christian returned from TNA
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Edge & Christian posted:Hasn't that been Vince's thing forever? I feel like someone (maybe Bryan and Vinny on their Superstars/SNME retro reviews) keeps commenting on how commentary will call people like Ronnie Garvin and Pez Whatley "talented young newcomers" and similar things even as they're pushing 40 and into the second or third decades of their careers. They treated Dusty Rhodes as a "new guy" in '89, despite him main eventing MSG several times against Superstar Billy Graham in a feud for the WWWF title a decade earlier. I remember when Ricky Steamboat returned in '91, they practically treated him as if he'd never been there before. Mons Hubris posted:I thought Edge and Christian were kayfabe brothers, did they give up on that and now they're just buddies? Vince developed another weird quirk in the 2000s, where if people weren't really related, then they couldn't be billed as such. It's why Ryder and Hawkins had to drop the "Major Bros" gimmick.
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