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Expanding the crew to include Peaches, Monica and Bobbie along with Bull would be solid choices. A tighter focus on the story would benefit the series if this is 100% the final season.
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Bull being Roci crew instead of how things went down for him in the books would be really cool. Esp since he is a self righteous dickhead in the full opposite of Holden.
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Feb 9, 2021 05:06
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I labored through season 5. Fast forwarded some of the slow torturous/repetitive parts, but I finally finished. Looking forward to season 6 where Naomi is straining/crying/exasperated on the space toilet with proto-molecule induced constipation for 3-4 episodes.
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Feb 9, 2021 05:10
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Finished the season. Last episode was pretty crazy, but without this thread I would have had zero idea what the ending was even supposed to be. *red swirls swooshing around!* UH OK??? The ending of Alex was also simply not well made. A lot of weird voiced over lines to try to make it work and of course the dismissal of Alex like he was just a loose acquaintance by everyone except Naomi. For anyone who don't know the story of the actors accusations it's gotta be super confusing OVERALL I thought the season was good. About a 7/10. It had some episodes that dragged and some really cool ones.
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Feb 9, 2021 08:54
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The red swirls just require you to remember the huge foreshadowing from the scene with Holden and Fred earlier in the season that probably first seemed like a big deal, then Fred said nah man, just go on a vacation. Then there were 7 weeks until it popped up again.
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Feb 9, 2021 14:12
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I'm definitely failing to remember something so I'll just ask: what is the history between Holden and Peaches?
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Feb 9, 2021 14:59
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Holden got Jules Pierre-Mao, her father, sent to prison for his crimes in season 1 & 2. Peaches murders her way through season 3 trying to kill Holden as revenge until she meets him and realizes how handsome and brave he is. Then in her final act of season 3 risks her life to stop the ring station from killing everyone.
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Feb 9, 2021 15:04
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Clanpot Shake posted:I'm definitely failing to remember something so I'll just ask: what is the history between Holden and Peaches? Peaches' dad is Jules-Pierre Mao who Holden is responsible for getting renditioned. She wanted to kill Holden and got a bunch of suped-up mods that make her a Taz-style flesh tornado for about 10 seconds and stowed away along with the science ships that the Rocinante was escorting to the ring gate.
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Feb 9, 2021 15:06
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Clanpot Shake posted:I'm definitely failing to remember something so I'll just ask: what is the history between Holden and Peaches? Season 4 of the expanse
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Feb 9, 2021 16:32
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Phi230 posted:Season 4 of the expanse Season 3 part 2 actually. Season 4 is Marty.
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ded posted:Bull being Roci crew instead of how things went down for him in the books would be really cool. Esp since he is a self righteous dickhead in the full opposite of Holden. He seems crucial for maintaining some degree of tension now that the rest of the crew is on the same page as Holden. Naomi loves him and Amos is using him as a moral center. I suppose Peaches could argue with him, but her continued presence is by sufferance and I'd expect her to take a while to get to that point. Naomi would still argue with Holden, but I think the show needs Bull to actually push the drama. Or the showrunners could just make it one big happy ship and externalize the conflict next season. Those who didn't like this season might be comforted by the fact that it looks like our main cast have more or less gone through their character development arcs. It looks like the focus will be on secondary character arcs (Peaches, for example, or Bobbie adjusting to life on the political side of things) and plot lines next season.
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Feb 9, 2021 17:51
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To be fair, Amos has 100% been on Holden's side since he told Miller to gently caress off early in season 2, and that only got stronger. There hasn't been much tension between the crew since Naomi came back in late season 3. And none after the Donnager besides the Naomi thing(aside from that very brief and weird Amos and Cortezar bromance, and the incident Amos talked about in the airlock). Really the crew is a family and has been.
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Feb 9, 2021 18:23
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Clanpot Shake posted:I'm definitely failing to remember something so I'll just ask: what is the history between Holden and Peaches? In addition to what others said she's the main reason the Roci entered the ring gate in the first place. They were forced to go there in desperation when everyone was going to launch weapons at the Roci including Drummer. Anyone that doesn't remember peaches ya'll shoudl re-watch season 3 again because that was like peak scifi drugs for me. It was also designed as a sort-of series finale because they weren't sure if season 4 was happening at the time. Mu Zeta fucked around with this message at 18:52 on Feb 9, 2021 |
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Feb 9, 2021 18:50
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Who's this lady holden is hugging at the end of this season? I vaguely remember her crying in a spaceship (I fast forwarded those bits) but my memory of the previous seasons is hazy. Also when the camera shows the house the show takes place in, why is the background always black with little glowing dots and why is there sometime blue fire coming out of the end of the house? Was this covered in a previous season I forgot? Holden calls the big handsom guy "family" but I don't remember how they're all related. Is that his brother or something? I think I remember a guy with a hat in the early seasons, did anything ever happen with that character? I always look at my phone when the talky bits happen so I might not have been paying attention.
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Finished the new season yesterday, liked it a lot. Better than last season by a mile I liked that it went back to internal politics and all, away from spectacular alien stuff for a bit. I like the crazy alien stuff, but when is one crazy alien thing happening after the other, it starts lose effect, and S4 was a bit too full of it Alex was written out because of that whole mess the actor got involved into right? His death come out of nowhere, it was very weirtd
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Feb 9, 2021 19:33
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Sounds to me like S5 works real well as a binge, not so much as a weekly drop.
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Feb 9, 2021 19:40
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Elias_Maluco posted:Alex was written out because of that whole mess the actor got involved into right? His death come out of nowhere, it was very weirtd Yeah, it was clunky as hell but at least it's done with
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Feb 9, 2021 19:41
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Baronjutter posted:
His name is Charles. He's in charge.
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Feb 9, 2021 19:49
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Data Graham posted:Sounds to me like S5 works real well as a binge, not so much as a weekly drop. Yeah thats what I did and I enjoyed it a lot I cant stand watching things weekly anymore, I just wait for it to finish and watch in my own rythm (usually 2 or 3 episodes per day) Chalks posted:Yeah, it was clunky as hell but at least it's done with Its a shame. It was my favorite character. Why the actor had to be an rear end in a top hat
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Feb 9, 2021 20:01
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I sort of bought into the "weekly episodes fosters more discussion" but the discussion each week is mostly people forgetting everything that happened the previous episodes. Works fine for real simplistic shows like Mando where you can totally stare at your phone half the episode and still understand what's going on, but for something like the Expanse that can be very subtle and dense you really need to be paying full attention and have perfect memory of that one minor thing a character mentioned offhand 5 episodes ago which also only makes sense in relation to a thing that was mentioned 3 seasons ago. This season in particular really works better binged.
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Feb 9, 2021 20:27
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Baronjutter posted:I sort of bought into the "weekly episodes fosters more discussion" but the discussion each week is mostly people forgetting everything that happened the previous episodes. Works fine for real simplistic shows like Mando where you can totally stare at your phone half the episode and still understand what's going on, but for something like the Expanse that can be very subtle and dense you really need to be paying full attention and have perfect memory of that one minor thing a character mentioned offhand 5 episodes ago which also only makes sense in relation to a thing that was mentioned 3 seasons ago. This season in particular really works better binged. I mean, The Expanse worked for 3 seasons with weekly release. The Wire worked for 5.
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Feb 9, 2021 20:59
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Weekly works fine. I just wish the creators could have told us interesting things would stop happening between episodes 4 and 10 so I could have stopped watching for a while and blown through those in one go.
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Feb 9, 2021 21:26
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Would this season have seemed worse too me if I spent more time in this thread? I didn't read this thread that often and I liked the season.
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Feb 9, 2021 21:49
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Baronjutter posted:Who's this lady holden is hugging at the end of this season? I vaguely remember her crying in a spaceship (I fast forwarded those bits) but my memory of the previous seasons is hazy. Nah, hat guy fell in a plot hole.
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Bip Roberts posted:Would this season have seemed worse too me if I spent more time in this thread? I didn't read this thread that often and I liked the season. 1. don't post 2.
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Bip Roberts posted:Would this season have seemed worse too me if I spent more time in this thread? I didn't read this thread that often and I liked the season. Probably. The week between episodes gives people time to stew and pick apart all the little inconsistencies and things they didn't like. Funny how that never seems to work in reverse though 
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Bip Roberts posted:Would this season have seemed worse too me if I spent more time in this thread? I didn't read this thread that often and I liked the season. Nah I've been reading the thread the whole time and I'm pretty sure this has surpassed season 3 as the best season, although it's pretty dang close
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Baronjutter posted:Who's this lady holden is hugging at the end of this season? I vaguely remember her crying in a spaceship (I fast forwarded those bits) but my memory of the previous seasons is hazy. Your post made me laugh so hard. Thank you goon. Bip Roberts posted:Would this season have seemed worse too me if I spent more time in this thread? I didn't read this thread that often and I liked the season. Still good. There are many good posters in this thread and 0 nazis so far so ... yay. Biggest lesson is the same as real life: whatever people say then take with a bit of salt and make your own opinions. Some guys you will read and be like "oh that's a good point" while others you wonder if you are watching the same show. I always enjoy watching with goons as a good portion of them come up with things I wouldn't have considered, bring nice insider tips and make some funny puns. Still think these forums posts are better than 90% of the internet so far. Faint praise I know, but check Youtube comments or reddit for true horror. Cannon_Fodder posted:His name is Charles.
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I powered through everything in like a week and I have to say that when you do that... Season 5 ends as abruptly as when that dude got splattered all over his space livestream.
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Say what you want about that guy, he was deffo memorable. Big fan of this slingshot racer concept deal. It's loving awesome.
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Bedshaped posted:Holden got Jules Pierre-Mao, her father, sent to prison for his crimes in season 1 & 2. Peaches murders her way through season 3 trying to kill Holden as revenge until she meets him and realizes how handsome and brave he is. Then in her final act of season 3 risks her life to stop the ring station from killing everyone. Wait, when did she meet him?
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Kaedric posted:Wait, when did she meet him? She doesn't for a long time. She simply knows he's responsible for jailing her dad so she sets off to avenge daddy. She begins by masquerading as a maintenance contractor, setting a bomb and having it blamed on the Roci via a fake message. The message is planted on the Roci by the blind cameraman (dumb). So, she plants the bomb, the bomb goes off, the message goes off, and now Holden's crew is in deep poo poo so they fly through the ring. She finally comes face to face with him in the brig of Medina Station and he's comforting/reuniting with Naomi.
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Kaedric posted:Wait, when did she meet him? She comes face to face with Holden when they are both locked up on the Behemoth. The Roci crew transfers her there and Holden is already locked up from the Martian skiff with Bobbie on it, They are in seperate cells, but there is a moment where he introduces himself and asks her what she is in for and she just laughs.
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Kaedric posted:Wait, when did she meet him? They get put in opposite cells on the Behemoth
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swickles posted:She comes face to face with Holden when they are both locked up on the Behemoth. The Roci crew transfers her there and Holden is already locked up from the Martian skiff with Bobbie on it, They are in seperate cells, but there is a moment where he introduces himself and asks her what she is in for and she just laughs. I guess it's already the Behemoth by then, my bad.
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On my rewatch, gotten through episode 3. Two little tidbits: It was the quickest throwaway, but Avasarala said that Marco was a racer pilot. OooOOOh, so Naomi totally fell for a flyboy NASCAR driver. I think one of the biggest objections to Marco is how poorly his background is fleshed out. Of the secondary characters, Ashford and Fred had pretty great fully fleshed out backgrounds. They could have done bit better with Marco. Humanizing/grounding him further would have certainly helped out. There's always season 6... Second, the great scene where Alex and the redhead MCRN officer are doing the two-way interrogation over wine on Mars. You don't realize it on first viewing, but once you've seen the whole season, it may have actually been Alex that gave the intel to the rogue MCRN faction that the protomolecule presence is what was needed to activate the ancient tech devices. Seemed innocent at the time, but whoops, loose lips sink ships, Alex.
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Since we know the Marco/Sauvaterre conspiracy was already happening in season 4 the rogue Martians must have already been after the protomolecule back then. That's all Marco had to offer to trade for the navy.
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gfarrell80 posted:On my rewatch, gotten through episode 3. Two little tidbits: I actually think this is part of the point with Marco. Marco cares about Marco, and nothing else. Makes sense then that he'd be a racer pilot cus he'd be able to make a name for himself. Also makes sense he doesn't have the belter tats, or the good backstory that explains their poo poo like Ashford or Dawes. I mean, Marco and bin Laden have their parallels, and the latter grew up privileged as hell in a stupid rich family. For all his big talk Marco is a fake who doesn't actually have the Belt's best interests in his mind or heart. And he's used the justifiable anger and willingness to take radical action to basically piss his name in the snow, but like, really big.
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Zzulu posted:The ending of Alex was also simply not well made. A lot of weird voiced over lines to try to make it work and of course the dismissal of Alex like he was just a loose acquaintance by everyone except Naomi. For anyone who don't know the story of the actors accusations it's gotta be super confusing
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Inferior Third Season posted:If I didn't know about the accusations, I would have just assumed the actor got greedy in contract negotiations or just decided not to come back, and the producers decided to give him an unceremonious death in retaliation. Major characters dying in season finales is not unusual. Yeah, but when is something planned, the character gets a dramatic death, a meaningful ending, stuff like that Alex dies out of nowhere, literally without reason and than gets one or two "oh so sad he died" and that was it. He was one of the protagonists edit: LOST killed a lot of characters for out of screen reasons and I dont remember any of them being so ridiculous as Alex death was Elias_Maluco fucked around with this message at 13:24 on Feb 10, 2021 |
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