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fwiw the Expanded Galaxy Mod does a really good job fleshing out the war - systems fall gradually to the Reapers, major battles are detailed with some push-and-pull between the two sides, more is made of the logistics of war even for the unkillable robot gods
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What if ME3 had been the galactic RTS portion of Spore
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Feb 10, 2021 14:04
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Shirkelton posted:I don't think I could ever murder someone who was a child when I met them. You'd be surprised how fun it can be. My favorite method when it comes comes to murdering video game characters is to yank the power cord out of the pc/console, with the camera focused on the character you want to murder. Bonus points if you say "you're terminated!" or "time to die!".
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Feb 10, 2021 14:10
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Milkfred E. Moore posted:Uh, I mean: Argh! Rarh! Argh!
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Feb 10, 2021 14:28
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TheCenturion posted:You know, I've played through the series multiple times, on multiple platforms, and I've never done a renegade playthrough. 10+ years later and still literally never done an exclusively one or the other playthrough. Always took each situation on its own merits and acted accordingly. I'd typically be sweetness and light to good folks and crewmates, and a complete bastard to scumbags (RIP Fist, RIP unrepentant Exogeni scientists, eat poo poo Terra Firma) and end the game roughly 100% Renegade/80% Paragon. Carrying that into an ME2 import gave enough of a buffer to be able to have all but a couple of P/R check options available, and even if one isn't the other will be so you're never stuck having to pick the less good right-hand side options instead (apart from the lone "I'm a Spectre" renegade one in Thane's interrogation quest, that one's requirement must be sky high. But you can still get the same outcome a couple of minutes later so it's irrelevant anyway). ME3 is so much more lenient on checks anyway that it's barely an issue anymore. I just don't see the point in single alignment runs, it's just mindlessly holding the stick up-right/down-right for every single decision. You're not making a choice at all and it's just boring af. chaosapiant posted:Generally speaking, there’s enough Renegade points to grab that you don’t have to always be an rear end in a top hat or do silly poo poo like murder Wrex. You can play a more pragmatic Shepard rather than a psychopath. Exactly.
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chaosapiant posted:Personally, I find ME more fun to just take each decision as it comes and ignore the Paragon/Renegade meters. Maybe you can’t get the optimal solution to every problem, but I find that more interesting from a role-playing standpoint. I was going to suggest maybe fragment the choices based on the character or species you’re dealing with so if you just don’t care for the quarians you can be renegade towards them without impacting your other choices but then realized I accidentally gamified racism.
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Feb 10, 2021 14:34
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Gonna roleplay a Shepard who loves Batarians but hates everyone else, including humans.
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Feb 10, 2021 15:00
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Whorelord posted:Gonna roleplay a Shepard who loves Batarians but hates everyone else, including humans. will make for a weird bring down the sky
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Feb 10, 2021 15:02
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Won't have to worry about that for the legendary edition at least
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Feb 10, 2021 15:04
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The Klowner posted:Won't have to worry about that for the legendary edition at least it's included in the collection, unless you meant something else.
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Feb 10, 2021 15:06
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Rinkles posted:will make for a weird bring down the sky I'll see that I have to fight Batarians then leave, abandoning Terra Nova to its fate.
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Feb 10, 2021 15:06
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From what I could tell the one DLC to be erased from the annals of history is Pinnacle Station, not that it is much of a loss.
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Feb 10, 2021 15:33
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SettingSun posted:From what I could tell the one DLC to be erased from the annals of history is Pinnacle Station, not that it is much of a loss. I didn't care much for the clanky combat, but I liked hanging out on Pinnacle stations observation lounge because the skybox was pretty.
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Feb 10, 2021 15:42
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Whorelord posted:Gonna roleplay a Shepard who loves Batarians but hates everyone else, including humans. I once did a Shepard who wanted to be a careerist desk pilot at mingling at embassies, and was real mad at first when she somehow got pigeonholed as a special forces war hero
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Feb 10, 2021 15:43
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The last hour of ME3 is like when you drink a whole bottle of Australian wine and eat half a pizza then pass out on your own couch
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Feb 10, 2021 16:08
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Milkfred E. Moore posted:Sort of like how, for all the Catalyst's talk about how Reapers are just a fire and they're just doing what they're doing to preserve organic life, well, they're still the dudes who grafted a human onto a Batarian to use a living weapon. It's interesting how the Reapers changed from game to game. Sovereign does not seem like the same race as Harbinger. Sovereign has a voice like a graveyard and acts like some cthonic techno-horror from before time and Harbinger is "Ooooh, I hates that Shepard!"
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Feb 10, 2021 16:15
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Harbinger is an edgelord reaper.
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Feb 10, 2021 16:21
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Rinkles posted:it's included in the collection, unless you meant something else. Oh whoops I was thinking of SettingSun posted:From what I could tell the one DLC to be erased from the annals of history is Pinnacle Station, not that it is much of a loss.
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Feb 10, 2021 16:22
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One thing I like about the Reapers is that they're played up as unknowable transcendent super monsters but in ME3 most know Shepard by name and several drop what they are doing for a shot at personally killing them.
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Feb 10, 2021 16:33
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You fight against inevitability. Dust struggling against cosmic winds. This seems a victory to you. A star system, sacrificed. But even now, your greatest civilisations are doomed to fall. Your leaders will beg to be harvested. Human, you've changed nothing. Your species has the attention of those infinitely your greater. That which you know as Reapers are your salvation through destruction.
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Feb 10, 2021 16:36
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Codependent Poster posted:Harbinger is an edgelord reaper. Maybe Sovereign is the edgelord, and all the other reapers are like 'jesus christ, are you pretending to be mecha-cthulhu again?"
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Feb 10, 2021 17:02
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look if i was a mecha-cthulhu you can bet i'd be melodramatically hamming it up
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Feb 10, 2021 17:04
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Horrific, cosmic terror beasts are a bad choice for villains in an RPG, because at some point, they've got to fuckin' talk to you.
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Feb 10, 2021 17:05
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The Reapers were weakened down so they couldn't be the same sort of ultimate horror movie threat like they were in the first game, but then they still were too overpowered for the war against them to feel like a real confrontation when they just kinda cut through all defenses and limits and there's not really many good ways for Reapers and the Council races to even interact.
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Feb 10, 2021 17:05
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Sovereign got assigned to the citadel gateway job because none of the other reapers could stand listening to him y'all remember when ME2 had that shot of the reapers at the end and there were a bunch of cool different reaper designs instead of all just a bunch of sovereigns like fat reaper, fat reaper owned
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Feb 10, 2021 17:09
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 You will all be hamburgers, eternally
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Feb 10, 2021 17:12
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Shirkelton posted:Horrific, cosmic terror beasts are a bad choice for villains in an RPG, because at some point, they've got to fuckin' talk to you. That first chat with sovereign in me1 at virmire is incredible. I like harbingers poo poo talking in me2 also before you find out he’s a reaper and not just the main collector.
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Feb 10, 2021 17:17
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It's hosed up that Harbinger only shows up for ten seconds at the end of ME3 and he doesn't even taunt you for old times' sake.
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Feb 10, 2021 17:19
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Funky Valentine posted:It's hosed up that Harbinger only shows up for ten seconds at the end of ME3 and he doesn't even taunt you for old times' sake. Agreed. It’s cool that he’s the one that shoots you and all but definitely would have liked more mess talking from him.
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Feb 10, 2021 17:27
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Funky Valentine posted:It's hosed up that Harbinger only shows up for ten seconds at the end of ME3 and he doesn't even taunt you for old times' sake. I know this hurts you.
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Feb 10, 2021 17:27
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OTOH, much cooler that the leader and first of the giant eldritch god-synths from beyond the stars lands and casually and efficiently wastes you and everyone you care about, and then moves the gently caress on because he is in the middle of a stupendously large battle and has things to do This is something the extended cut hosed up badly, by the way
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Feb 10, 2021 17:29
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Remember when the Normandy just lands in front of Harbinger because fans needed an explicit explanation of 'how did shep's squad get back to the normandy??', in a skybox teeming with alliance dropships. It, uh, has thanix shields!! Actually it reminds me of that Jenny Nicholson video where she points out that, in new Star Wars, literally every new scene has to show the characters arriving via spaceship as if otherwise we'd be confused as to how they could possibly get there. to sell toys, duh
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Strategic Tea posted:Remember when the Normandy just lands in front of Harbinger because fans needed an explicit explanation of 'how did shep's squad get back to the normandy??', in a skybox teeming with alliance dropships. I do remember! It's exceptionally loving stupid! "huh there's the normandy, well that's a stealth ship, can't shoot that no sir, even though it's in atmo and visual range, this doesn't hurt you shepherd"
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Psycho Landlord posted:OTOH, much cooler that the leader and first of the giant eldritch god-synths from beyond the stars lands and casually and efficiently wastes you and everyone you care about, and then moves the gently caress on because he is in the middle of a stupendously large battle and has things to do
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Psycho Landlord posted:I do remember! It's exceptionally loving stupid! he literally turns to watch it go. it's real weird!
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Feb 10, 2021 17:49
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Pattonesque posted:he literally turns to watch it go. it's real weird! "Huh, there's that ship again. Something so familiar about it, gives me a weird vibe. Oh well, I just blasted Shepard to pieces and I've got things to do."
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Feb 10, 2021 17:52
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Doctor Nutt posted:"Huh, there's that ship again. Something so familiar about it, gives me a weird vibe. Oh well, I just blasted Shepard to pieces and I've got things to do." He hadn't even shot you yet!
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Feb 10, 2021 18:14
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Lets all just agree on the Indoctrination Theory (or just end the game when you and Anderson bite it in the Citadel bowels) and pick up from there in ME4
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Feb 10, 2021 18:20
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I don't think the reading of Reapers as unknowable robot-Cthulhus is accurate. Sovereign's boast is that the Reapers have worked out how everything works to the point they can predict the future. reality is rational, the cosmos is deterministic, it's just very specifically that Sovereign thinks humans are too stupid to understand
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Psycho Landlord posted:
I AM THE VANGUARD OF YOUR--WHERE ARE YOU GOING? TAKE ME SERIOUSLY, DAMMIT! I WILL ERADICATE YOUR SPECIES!
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