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Nah not a projection, the show was definitely falling off. Peretti had blatantly lost interest before they wrote her character off, and Boyle's getting flanderized to the point of unwatchability. They did do a great job of maturing Jake at a realistic rate though, and I love the depth they've found in Holt, especially his interactions with Rosa, but it doesn't seem like there's much more to do with any character. I may be alone in really really disliking the way they handled that racism episode, so I think it's smart for them to wrap it up rather than try to figure out a BLM version of the show. It's just not a show that's built for handling heavy subjects.
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I mean then that’s not running out if steam that’s just realizing you can’t succeed in a new dynamic. If none of this happened the show wouod have continued on as before, that’s just what it was
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CharlestheHammer posted:I mean then that’s not running out if steam that’s just realizing you can’t succeed in a new dynamic. The show isn't as good as it used to be, and not for reasons related to any new dynamics.
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Your opinion on what the show is isn’t terribly relevant nor interesting
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CharlestheHammer posted:I mean then that’s not running out if steam that’s just realizing you can’t succeed in a new dynamic. Right, I know they're cancelling it because ACAB - but I'm still GLAD it's being cancelled because it's rubbish now outside of the concept. I'm not projecting anything, I know why it's being cancelled.
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It's not rubbish though, it's still incredibly funny.
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STAC Goat posted:I'm kind of enjoying this thing where the thread has to explain Brooklyn 99 every week. Its like a really low stakes version of a Westworld thread of something. Kind of charming and relaxing. Evergreen.
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CharlestheHammer posted:Your opinion on what the show is isn’t terribly relevant nor interesting Perhaps the same could be said about your opinion.
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They should turn it into a Hogan's Heroes reboot and call it Brooklyn 88.
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CPColin posted:They should turn it into a Hogan's Heroes reboot and call it Brooklyn 88. Eighty-eight, huh? I see what you did there.
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ONE YEAR LATER posted:It's not rubbish though, it's still incredibly funny. You unrefined boor, the show does not live up to our lofty expectations. Which are not nebulous, shut up.
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I don't think it's terribly controversial to say that the show has somewhat lost its luster these past few seasons. They've finished everyone's character arcs as much as they're ever going to get finished (except maybe Holt finally being made commissioner, which they've teased so many times I no longer care much) and there's not a lot left for the cast to do except stand around and repeat jokes from earlier seasons. It's certainly not bad, but it's definitely getting long in the tooth and a little repetitive.
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Brooklyn Nine-Nine couldn't run forever, and now's a good time as any to end it. Hell, Lights Out could've been the series finale and I wouldn't have been mad.
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CharlestheHammer posted:Your opinion on what the show is isn’t terribly relevant nor interesting you are posting in a thread for discussing people's opinions on the show Taear posted:Right, I know they're cancelling it because ACAB - but I'm still GLAD it's being cancelled because it's rubbish now outside of the concept. exactly my feelings. i'd been frustrated by the writing and the lack of enthusiasm from the cast for a couple of seasons now. if anything, ACAB gives the show a chance at a graceful exit, which it well deserves even despite the decline
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I was still having fun watching the show, but it was definitely in a decline. I can think of much worse fates for a show than having a well planned exit due to circumstances beyond their control.
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Lurdiak posted:I don't think it's terribly controversial to say that the show has somewhat lost its luster these past few seasons. They've finished everyone's character arcs as much as they're ever going to get finished (except maybe Holt finally being made commissioner, which they've teased so many times I no longer care much) and there's not a lot left for the cast to do except stand around and repeat jokes from earlier seasons. It's certainly not bad, but it's definitely getting long in the tooth and a little repetitive. I think this is generally spot-on. The thing is, essentially all sitcoms have a shelf-life and an expiration date; run too long and you become a parody of yourself (Flanderisation / The Simpsons is the classic example and was already mentioned, and I'm looking at you, HIMYM and Scrubs and The Office), or they become excessively dour and serious and try to be about Important Things (Frasier and M*A*S*H come to mind). B99 isn't unwatchable by any sense of the word, but they've wrung just about all the water they can out of these characters--I've always thought that when the lead characters in a sitcom start having children, that's usually a sign that the writers are getting hard-up for new ideas--and there's absolutely no shame in ending after an eight-season run, considered that's a hell of a lot longer than a lot of television shows get. I'd much rather the show end now before it turns into some unholy abomination unto the Lord like the final years of Glee or House or Friends.
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Gina leaving would have been a perfect opportunity to add a new character but sitcoms generally shrink in scope over time, there’s a point where everyone who could have has sex with each other has and half the people are married to each other, etc. Late season HIMYM was so dire I don’t mind this show avoiding that fate.
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qirex posted:Gina leaving would have been a perfect opportunity to add a new character but sitcoms generally shrink in scope over time, there’s a point where everyone who could have has sex with each other has and half the people are married to each other, etc. Right. By late-era Frasier, Frasier and Roz had slept together, Niles and Daphne were together then married and were later expecting, Daphne's family became prominent players in the show (  ), Niles had bypass surgery, and Frasier and his dad were both romantically chasing Frasier's childhood babysitter ( ).Quit while you're even remotely ahead.
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When did niles pilot the eva
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Milo and POTUS posted:When did niles pilot the eva It's why he needed bypass surgery.
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qirex posted:Gina leaving would have been a perfect opportunity to add a new character but sitcoms generally shrink in scope over time, there’s a point where everyone who could have has sex with each other has and half the people are married to each other, etc. Jake hasn’t hooked up with Holt and Kevin as an experimental throuple yet, but there’s time.
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The_Doctor posted:Jake hasn’t hooked up with Holt and Kevin as an experimental throuple yet, but there’s time. Gross, those are his dads!
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DukeofCA posted:Gross, those are his dads! But I mean...  ...no... ...could I?  It would be... ...no...
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qirex posted:Gina leaving would have been a perfect opportunity to add a new character but sitcoms generally shrink in scope over time, there’s a point where everyone who could have has sex with each other has and half the people are married to each other, etc.
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FactsAreUseless posted:Parks and Rec managed to extend itself by focusing on some underused characters in its last couple seasons after regulars left, but B99 doesn't have enough spare characters. I feel like there's an alternate dimension where a show called Hitchcock and Scully follows the adventures of the morbidly obese, bumbling, seemingly incompetent detectives who solve way more crimes than they get credit for using their greasy-fingered street dumbs. ("Street dumbs" are like street smarts, except different.) And, the scenes in B99 where they're mentioned or are an active part of the episode? Those scenes exist as-is in Hitchcock and Scully, too. Just with more chicken wings.
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Hitchcockcranz and Sulleystern are Dead
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The Tutor - Coming to NBC this Fall! When college professor Kevin Cozner becomes a private tutor to make some fast cash on the side, his only pupil turns out to be a real handful! Young Nikolaj Boyle becomes the teacher when it comes to Kevin learning how to be a human!
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The_Doctor posted:The Tutor - Coming to NBC this Fall! When college professor Kevin Cozner becomes a private tutor to make some fast cash on the side, his only pupil turns out to be a real handful! Young Nikolaj Boyle becomes the teacher when it comes to Kevin learning how to be a human! It's "Nikolaj"
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The_Doctor posted:The Tutor - Coming to NBC this Fall! When college professor Kevin Cozner becomes a private tutor to make some fast cash on the side, his only pupil turns out to be a real handful! Young Nikolaj Boyle becomes the teacher when it comes to Kevin learning how to be a human! No, Nikolaj.
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Nikolaj! - Coming to CN this fall! However you’re saying it, you’re saying it wrong!
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tarlibone posted:I feel like there's an alternate dimension where a show called Hitchcock and Scully follows the adventures of the morbidly obese, bumbling, seemingly incompetent detectives who solve way more crimes than they get credit for using their greasy-fingered street dumbs. ("Street dumbs" are like street smarts, except different.) And, the scenes in B99 where they're mentioned or are an active part of the episode? Those scenes exist as-is in Hitchcock and Scully, too. Just with more chicken wings. H&S have already become bigger focuses in an attempt to fill the void since Gina left, with mixed success. Aside from the episodes that are just plainly about them, they get more scenes than they used to in regular episodes. People seem to like them well enough so no one's complaining, but if you go back and watch the early seasons they're onscreen way less. Lurdiak fucked around with this message at 09:33 on Feb 23, 2021 |
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It always struck me as weird how small B99's bench is. Like, how did it never turn into the Office? Why are they still using extras on the set? Also, looking forward to them all quitting their jobs one-by-one over the course of the season
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FactsAreUseless posted:Parks and Rec managed to extend itself by focusing on some underused characters in its last couple seasons after regulars left, but B99 doesn't have enough spare characters. Did it? I feel like I missed that, the last season in my head is going off to help Ben run for office? Or someone at least
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Taear posted:Did it? I feel like I missed that, the last season in my head is going off to help Ben run for office? Or someone at least
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Edward Mass posted:Hitchcockcranz and Sulleystern are Dead There will be a deep fake movie of this, by god there will.
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tarlibone posted:I feel like there's an alternate dimension where a show called Hitchcock and Scully follows the adventures of the morbidly obese, bumbling, seemingly incompetent detectives who solve way more crimes than they get credit for using their greasy-fingered street dumbs. ("Street dumbs" are like street smarts, except different.) And, the scenes in B99 where they're mentioned or are an active part of the episode? Those scenes exist as-is in Hitchcock and Scully, too. Just with more chicken wings. I'd love that even if just as a one-off episode. I love the ongoing minor story of H&S secretly being super smart and competent but playing it down to avoid doing work. I want to see them solving crimes and then leading Jake to the clues so that he thinks he solved it and they can just shrug then go eat some wings.
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I was asked what my all-time favourite show was the other day, and I had to stop and think about it for a bit. Originally, I chose Space Ghost: Coast to Coast, but then I realized that, no, it's definitely Brooklyn Nine-Nine. I'm doing a rewatch right now and it's just perfectly delightful. This show was my comfort show through last year when poo poo had just started to go crazy in the world, and while it remains crazy, this show remains wonderful.
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If the world going to poo poo has got you down and you like your sitcoms slightly peppier, can I suggest Ted Lasso
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Total Meatlove posted:If the world going to poo poo has got you down and you like your sitcoms slightly peppier, can I suggest Ted Lasso
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