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Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit
I think I saw two episodes of Dollhouse, can't remember poo poo about it

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Twitch
Apr 15, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
I think I just liked Whedon back in the day because poo poo pandering to nerds didn't come out as much as it does now.

Chubby Henparty
Aug 13, 2007


bitterandtwisted posted:

Before the modern movies, superheroes normies had heard of were the ones with campy live action TV shows and it's amazing to me it took so long for a Wonder Woman movie to be made. Some executive decided loving Green Lantern was a more bankable character.

99% of superheroes I knew about that weren't either movie superman or 60s batman were from the 80s DC action figure range, they were huge and who the gently caress is firestorm

Son of Thunderbeast
Sep 21, 2002

Ghost Leviathan posted:

Wonder Woman also really doesn't have a solid grounding to work from like Superman or Batman, it's hard to even say who her big villains are or think of any iconic storylines

Bringing this around to the thread topic, i can think of one: Egg Fu

maltesh
May 20, 2004

Uncle Ben: Still Dead.

Chubby Henparty posted:

99% of superheroes I knew about that weren't either movie superman or 60s batman were from the 80s DC action figure range, they were huge and who the gently caress is firestorm

As I recall, the last season or so of Super Friends (Legendary Super Powers Team?) in the 80's brought Firestorm and Cyborg onto the team. I think I remember origins for both of them, and then nothing else from that season.

The only other thing think I remember from watching Super Friends as a child was an episode where Aquaman got turned into a giant shark with elephant legs and was attacking buildings. If that actually was an episode, I wish I knew which one it was.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Twitch posted:

I think I just liked Whedon back in the day because poo poo pandering to nerds didn't come out as much as it does now.

I think this was definitely a big factor in his popularity back then.

Nottherealaborn
Nov 12, 2012

Iron Crowned posted:

I think I saw two episodes of Dollhouse, can't remember poo poo about it

The first season was good and kept you asking “ooo where’s this gonna go”, but of course that’s the same question that Whedon was asking himself and never bothered answering.

Kwyndig
Sep 23, 2006

Heeeeeey


Iron Crowned posted:

I think I saw two episodes of Dollhouse, can't remember poo poo about it

Considering the premise was slavery, except Scifi, you got off lucky.

Mister Kingdom
Dec 14, 2005

And the tears that fall
On the city wall
Will fade away
With the rays of morning light

Twitch posted:

I think I just liked Whedon back in the day because poo poo pandering to nerds didn't come out as much as it does now.

I remember being ripped to shreds when I dared to not like Firefly because I wasn't awed by his genius.

Blue Moonlight
Apr 28, 2005
Bitter and Sarcastic

maltesh posted:

The only other thing think I remember from watching Super Friends as a child was an episode where Aquaman got turned into a giant shark with elephant legs and was attacking buildings. If that actually was an episode, I wish I knew which one it was.

Some googling suggests this is Super Friends 3x29 (or 3x15): Journey Through Inner Space, but I’m having trouble finding any :filez: to stream to confirm.

EDIT: I also demand DC acknowledge this fact in the next Aquaman film:

Some DC Fan Wiki posted:

It is stated that Aquaman evolved from a prehistoric fish.

EDIT 2: Found it! PM me if you want to see this nonsense.

Blue Moonlight has a new favorite as of 22:26 on Feb 13, 2021

bunnyofdoom
Mar 29, 2008

Jaxxon: Still not the stupidest thing from the expanded universe.



Didn't we all evolve from fish?

AceOfFlames
Oct 9, 2012

bunnyofdoom posted:

Didn't we all evolve from fish?

I think in the comics they even used that fact to justify Aquaman being able to mind control humans. Seriously.

maltesh
May 20, 2004

Uncle Ben: Still Dead.

Blue Moonlight posted:

Some googling suggests this is Super Friends 3x29 (or 3x15): Journey Through Inner Space, but I’m having trouble finding any :filez: to stream to confirm.

EDIT: I also demand DC acknowledge this fact in the next Aquaman film:


EDIT 2: Found it! PM me if you want to see this nonsense.

I've just finished watching it. Holy crap, it was more bizarre than I believed possible.

I did not expect a Fantastic Voyage rescue plan using the Supermobile to irradiate Aquaman's brain with the "deadliest radioactive isotope known."

Jestery
Aug 2, 2016


Not a Dickman, just a shape

Cleretic posted:

The Bond movies also all just do the exact same continuity, even their one outright reboot, with Craig .

To get persnickety with a bizarre factoid

Connery's final appearance as bond in "Never say never again" was a weird event because it was a reboot staring the original bond as old bond produced by a different production house because of licensing stuff. The story itself being basically Thunderball, which was also a bond flick


It's a weird film from any angle

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

I guess the dam really broke on our boy Josh.

https://twitter.com/Mooseplainer/status/1360697769460047873?s=20

This is Degree Cosby, at least. The whole public persona was just cover to make his transgressions less believable.

Len
Jan 21, 2008

Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!


Is it just autocorrect or am I missing something that Joss keeps getting called Josh when his name is Joseph?

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

I think it's just a petty joke about his ridiculous affectation of a name. The fact that he doesn't go by his cool given name of Joe Hill Whedon is proof that he's irredeemable.

bobjr
Oct 16, 2012

Roose is loose.
🐓🐓🐓✊🪧

https://twitter.com/treytylor/status/1360661970924556291?s=20

I think this was around the same time Charlie Sheen was on drugs and was threatening his wife and kids with a knife, but was treated as some weird hero for it.

fartknocker
Oct 28, 2012


Damn it, this always happens. I think I'm gonna score, and then I never score. It's not fair.



Wedge Regret

Jestery posted:

To get persnickety with a bizarre factoid

Connery's final appearance as bond in "Never say never again" was a weird event because it was a reboot staring the original bond as old bond produced by a different production house because of licensing stuff. The story itself being basically Thunderball, which was also a bond flick


It's a weird film from any angle

Never Say Never Again wasn't really a reboot. The short version is the rights to the story and characters from Thunderball (Which was first a movie idea, then a novel, then a movie) got hung up legal battles for years because Fleming didn't originally credit the other guys who helped with the story (When he made it from the original movie idea into a novel), and then when it eventually was settled the guy who wanted to make it a movie still had to wait a bunch of years as a condition of the settlement. Fleming's estate and Eon, the company that produced all the official Bond movies, basically tried everything they could to block it, but eventually it got made by Warner Brothers, which is why it lacks so many of the trademark elements they didn't have the rights to from the normal Bond movies like the gun barrel opening, the Bond theme, Desmond Llewelyn as Q, and so on. This is also why you'll sometimes see clips of it in places like Disney's Great Movie Ride, or why it's not included in most Bond collections or not always shown on the same channels as part of marathons, because the rights for it are different. It came out a few months after Octopussy, but the main reason people remember it at all is because it was Sean Connery back in the role for a 7th and final time, so while it's not technically an "official" Bond movie, it's close enough that it was pretty much treated as one by fans and pop culture at large (Compared to the 1967 comedy version of Casino Royale, which is mostly an afterthought).

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!

bobjr posted:

https://twitter.com/treytylor/status/1360661970924556291?s=20

I think this was around the same time Charlie Sheen was on drugs and was threatening his wife and kids with a knife, but was treated as some weird hero for it.

There are several late night show interviews like this and it’s bizarre how no one cared

LITERALLY A BIRD
Sep 27, 2008

I knew you were trouble
when you flew in

bobjr posted:

https://twitter.com/treytylor/status/1360661970924556291?s=20

I think this was around the same time Charlie Sheen was on drugs and was threatening his wife and kids with a knife, but was treated as some weird hero for it.

Holy Crows this makes me Smokin Mad

Len
Jan 21, 2008

Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!


I looked up Malcolm in the Middle today because of a thread and Chris Benoit is apparently in the intro

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

It’s horrible to watch a person plead helplessly not to be humiliated after doing a pretty good job of deflecting unwelcome behavior in a way that could be played off as good-humored banter.

That was the same talk show where Bill Cosby was able to demand that all women on the production watch him eat curry from the last page, by the way.

Blue Moonlight
Apr 28, 2005
Bitter and Sarcastic

bobjr posted:

https://twitter.com/treytylor/status/1360661970924556291?s=20

I think this was around the same time Charlie Sheen was on drugs and was threatening his wife and kids with a knife, but was treated as some weird hero for it.

Holy poo poo, that was terrible. She handled it with incredible professionalism and grace that he completely didn’t deserve, and it’s loving terrible that if she had called him out on his poo poo, she would have caught hell for it.

Gaunab
Feb 13, 2012
LUFTHANSA YOU FUCKING DICKWEASEL

bobjr posted:

https://twitter.com/treytylor/status/1360661970924556291?s=20

I think this was around the same time Charlie Sheen was on drugs and was threatening his wife and kids with a knife, but was treated as some weird hero for it.

She handled that like a champion. It's a good reminder that no matter how far we think we've come as a society on issues it hasn't been that long since we were worse. Maybe it was "okay" at the time but it really shouldn't have been.

Nottherealaborn
Nov 12, 2012

bobjr posted:

https://twitter.com/treytylor/status/1360661970924556291?s=20

I think this was around the same time Charlie Sheen was on drugs and was threatening his wife and kids with a knife, but was treated as some weird hero for it.

This is infuriating to watch and makes me much less appreciate being in the studio audience when visiting New York during his final year before leaving the show.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

It seems pretty abnormal for a celebrity on a talk show to break the conceit of the interview and say, “we didn’t cover this in the prep meeting” that they’re not supposed to acknowledge because it ruins the the illusion that they’re having a spontaneous and natural conversation. You’d have to push someone pretty far to get them talking like that because it betrays the role they inhabit as their job, which is pretty clear in the progression of her responses.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Chubby Henparty posted:

99% of superheroes I knew about that weren't either movie superman or 60s batman were from the 80s DC action figure range, they were huge and who the gently caress is firestorm

Firestorm is one of those characters who really needs more exposure just because their (and I do mean their) whole concept is the best kind of bonkers.

The Brave and the Bold episode with them is one of the best.

hard counter
Jan 2, 2015





bobjr posted:

https://twitter.com/treytylor/status/1360661970924556291?s=20

I think this was around the same time Charlie Sheen was on drugs and was threatening his wife and kids with a knife, but was treated as some weird hero for it.

letterman was cheered on for that interview, iirc, because thanks to tabloids airing out lohan's dirty laundry constantly for years and years about failed rehabilitation, relationships, broken promises/apologies, relapses, outrageous partying, every single poor life decision she ever made during an awful period of her life, all while turning her family life into a circus that the entertainment news outlets managed to exhaust public sympathy for lohan, which was initially very high because she showed so much potential in the early 2000s but was then reaching some kind of pseudo-burnout in the early 2010s thanks to a relentless news cycle...the public spectacle of it all had all but rendered her into a walking, talking joke in the eyes of many and letterman's cruelty p much just said what a lot of people where thinking at the time

it's cool that we can now recognize at least one facet of why that whole situation was awful

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

She seems extremely with it during that interview. I don’t know that I would have had the presence of mind to bring things back to her prepared comments about being glad to work again as naturally as she does multiple times there. I don’t know the timeline for her difficulties, but she seems clear-headed there, maybe more so than I’d expect a celebrity to be while selling a new movie.

Pigbuster
Sep 12, 2010

Fun Shoe

bobjr posted:

I think this was around the same time Charlie Sheen was on drugs and was threatening his wife and kids with a knife, but was treated as some weird hero for it.

I remember an extremely bizarre period where Charlie Sheen just kept guest starring in things out of the blue and was getting wild audience reactions even while being blatantly skeezy and not remotely fitting in with anyone else, it made me feel like I was losing my mind. And I think it was after his domestic poo poo came out???

bobjr
Oct 16, 2012

Roose is loose.
🐓🐓🐓✊🪧

Pigbuster posted:

I remember an extremely bizarre period where Charlie Sheen just kept guest starring in things out of the blue and was getting wild audience reactions even while being blatantly skeezy and not remotely fitting in with anyone else, it made me feel like I was losing my mind. And I think it was after his domestic poo poo came out???

He got his own TV show even that got record ratings for the network at the time, only for it to be cancelled soon after because he abused several women in the cast.

Push El Burrito
May 9, 2006

Soiled Meat

Len posted:

I looked up Malcolm in the Middle today because of a thread and Chris Benoit is apparently in the intro

Life is unfair.

Shiroc
May 16, 2009

Sorry I'm late
I remember when I watched Firefly after years of hearing that it was the greatest thing ever and it sucked. One of my friends at the time got really mad at me when I talked about how the treatment of all of the female characters seemed hosed up and bad, especially for 'the strong female character guy'. Guess I'm vindicated now.

ChickenOfTomorrow
Nov 11, 2012

god damn it, you've got to be kind

Antifa Turkeesian posted:

I guess the dam really broke on our boy Josh.

https://twitter.com/Mooseplainer/status/1360697769460047873?s=20

This is Degree Cosby, at least. The whole public persona was just cover to make his transgressions less believable.

grr... argh

christmas boots
Oct 15, 2012

To these sing-alongs 🎤of siren 🧜🏻‍♀️songs
To oohs😮 to ahhs😱 to 👏big👏applause👏
With all of my 😡anger I scream🤬 and shout📢
🇺🇸America🦅, I love you 🥰but you're freaking 💦me 😳out
Biscuit Hider
There were some episodes of Firefly that I enjoyed but yeah I always thought it was kind of an overrated show and no one ever seemed to agree

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar
It's was a pretty generic space cowboy show. But, at the time, there was nothing else like it around. Same with Buffy/Angel.

Now there's so much nerd friendly stuff on TV you couldn't watch it all if you tried and it really shines a spotlight on all the cracks of Whedon's works.

christmas boots
Oct 15, 2012

To these sing-alongs 🎤of siren 🧜🏻‍♀️songs
To oohs😮 to ahhs😱 to 👏big👏applause👏
With all of my 😡anger I scream🤬 and shout📢
🇺🇸America🦅, I love you 🥰but you're freaking 💦me 😳out
Biscuit Hider
Cowboy Bebop was always the better space western

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010


Ignore my posts!
I'm aggressively wrong about everything!

christmas boots posted:

Cowboy Bebop was always the better space western

A random thing that's mostly unrelated to the topic at hand, but that I always remember when Cowboy Bebop comes up (and that's less depressing than talking about how bad Whedon's stuff is to look back on): Back in the early 00s there was talk of a Cowboy Bebop live-action adaptation, and the only thing I remember about it is Keanu Reeves as Spike.

That just stands out to me as a really interesting time capsule of casting. Because if we're completely honest about it right now, an early-00s Keanu Reeves might be one of the best choices to play Spike... but anyone who made that pick in the early 00s would've hosed it up, because that was the era of grossly miscasting Keanu Reeves.

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Mr. Fall Down Terror
Jan 24, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
firefly was unique for the time, but the luster wore off quickly and so did the cult classic appeal. now its just a show with some fun concepts and acting which regrettably would have been better executed in different hands, on a different network

agreeing to disagree about firefly in 2004 was people being like "oh my god, you haven't seen firefly? you need to watch it right now, i can loan you some tapes" and you'd say, even if you had seen it, yeah maybe i'll get around to it sometime and deferring

cowboy bebop is loving great, but it has the standard anime problems all over it and thus not many people will touch it because anime, and rightfully so. faye doesn't need to be so heavily sexualized and fanservicey

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