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Supercar Gautier posted:As far as making Wakanda/BP films without Boseman, I feel like making Shuri the lead is far and away the obvious choice by way of popularity and the tech-genius hook, whether or not the character actually takes on the BP mantle. We'll see if the actor goes further down the Carano hole, though. If anything, the whole Carano deal shows that if things get too heavy, Disney can get rid of someone that brings too much problems for them, and in Wright's case, though she is a good actress (far better than Carano), I think being anti vaxx in these times can be harmful to her career in the long run, so I think she won't double down on that stuff.
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Doctor Nutt posted:I also think Venom did good by having the ex's boyfriend not be an obvious douche, and then when he gets wrapped up in Venom's bullshit he's nothing but helpful to Eddie. Venom did a lot of poo poo right imo.
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sticklefifer posted:I appreciated that Ant-Man did this with Bobby Cannavale's character too, and by the time the second movie rolls around they all get along. I loved how utterly normal Scott Lang's life and problems are outside the super-people stuff. Best moment for me was when he, Hank and Hope were captured and then Cassie called about her soccer shoes. I'm really looking forward to Friday to see how Darcy deals with things. It's pretty clear that when most people in Westview aren't subsumed into the Sitcom Narrative, they're pretty much terrified of Wanda. Darcy... won't be. She's been around Jane and Thor. She helped them save the world (or at least London) from alien elves. I can imagine Darcy freaking Wanda out a little bit by not freaking out. Maybe fan-girling over the sitcom and just being generally curious - like a fan brought to the set of their favorite show. Everyone fucked around with this message at 23:09 on Feb 14, 2021 |
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This episode and most definitely the next one have been trending into the "self-aware/self-conscious" structural trend in family sitcoms (possibly a parallel to Wanda's slowly losing her grip on everyone, definitely a parallel to Vision and others gradually becoming aware of the truth), so it's a toss-up as to whether Darcy gets fully sucked in. And even if she does, Vision may recognize her from his brief sojourn outside the Hex and snap her out of it long enough to learn more.
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If they don't have Darcy appear in some variation of her waitress outfit from 2 broke girls what was even the point
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I feel like Darcy showing up in a waitress outfit for a one-scene gag but not drawing attention to it would skirt the good end of the Fun <---> Stupid line of fictional media/characters recognizing real-world media/actors. The other end of that line is Ocean's 12.
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Supercar Gautier posted:As far as making Wakanda/BP films without Boseman, I feel like making Shuri the lead is far and away the obvious choice by way of popularity and the tech-genius hook, whether or not the character actually takes on the BP mantle. We'll see if the actor goes further down the Carano hole, though. Bring back Killmonger from the dead and redeem him 
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Sanguinia posted:Bring back Killmonger from the dead and redeem him Okoye is the clear choice.
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live with fruit posted:Okoye is the clear choice. You spelled M'Baku wrong.
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Jedit posted:You spelled M'Baku wrong. The guy in the gorilla mask who doesn't even like sea level Wakanda?
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Nakia is an experienced intelligence operative with great knowledge of the outside world and was the one who pushed T'Challa to change and embrace becoming part of the larger world and helping other nations, and she was the River Tribes' Champion at the King Ceremony, AND she was T'challa's romantic interest and could have easily married him and become queen at any time AND she has a built in character arc in taking over sole rule of Wakanda because now she has to operate within the political constraints of the Throne which was something she showed she didn't really understand during the Killmonger crisis. ...there's no way she's gonna be the new Black Panther. 
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Sanguinia posted:Nakia is an experienced intelligence operative with great knowledge of the outside world and was the one who pushed T'Challa to change and embrace becoming part of the larger world and helping other nations, and she was the River Tribes' Champion at the King Ceremony, AND she was T'challa's romantic interest and could have easily married him and become queen at any time AND she has a built in character arc in taking over sole rule of Wakanda because now she has to operate within the political constraints of the Throne which was something she showed she didn't really understand during the Killmonger crisis. She's also the most likely one to dissolve the monarchy, which is something the series has to deal with eventually. But then, if there's no throne, there's no Dora Milaje and Okoye's gonna need a new job.
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sticklefifer posted:I feel like Darcy showing up in a waitress outfit for a one-scene gag but not drawing attention to it would skirt the good end of the Fun <---> Stupid line of fictional media/characters recognizing real-world media/actors. I'm sure she'll just be the Aubrey Plaza character in this week's 2010s era sitcom.
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WandaVision not doing Arrested Development is a missed opportunity.
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Lid posted:WandaVision not doing Arrested Development is a missed opportunity. The finale's GOT to be The Good Place tho, right? I mean: RIGHT?
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good place isn't a family sitcom. These have all been familial relationship sitcoms. It's why you didn't get like Friends or Seinfield.
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The finale's gotta be WandaVison.
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Dexo posted:good place isn't a family sitcom. So It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia is fair game?
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cant cook creole bream posted:So It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia is fair game? I would allow it.
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David Cross as Thanos.
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the netflix punisher is coming in to shoot wanda and blow up her family
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live with fruit posted:She's also the most likely one to dissolve the monarchy, which is something the series has to deal with eventually. Why. There has been no indication that the monarchy is making the citizens of Wakanda unhappy, the only unrest we saw was from another member of the royal family upset about foreign policy
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It's a theocratic dictatorship. I'm going to go ahead and say that what the members of the monarchy see is not necessarily the sum total of public opinion.
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aw hell yeah hit me with the colonizer takes about Wakanda
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Terror Sweat posted:Why. There has been no indication that the monarchy is making the citizens of Wakanda unhappy, the only unrest we saw was from another member of the royal family upset about foreign policy I mean, that absolute power can be obtained by punching someone really good is an issue that probably warrants some sort of re-evaluation of leadership law, even setting aside whether any monarchy is ever okay. (Insert "Killmonger did nothing wrong" memes here)
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I'm kind of wondering how they'll work around how someone else even becomes Black Panther after T'Challa's demise in the story, given that Killmonger burned all the heart shaped herb and T'Challa ingested the last one. They'll probably say that was just one colony in the royal palace, and T'Challa was able to discover another or nurture more due to his spiritual connection or something, but they don't really seem like something that'd be growing wild (or there'd be at least one other Black Panther running around after finding some of them) and there's no reason the palace would have multiple plantations of them but only burn one on the king's orders. It might even tie in to the narrative, with the next ruler needing both to fight for the throne and to find some heart shaped herb to truly become ruler.
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cant cook creole bream posted:So It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia is fair game? It's Always Sunny in Westview. I guess Pietro is Charlie, but who's Frank?
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Boxman posted:setting aside whether any monarchy is ever okay. 
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Boxman posted:I mean, that absolute power can be obtained by punching someone really good is an issue that probably warrants some sort of re-evaluation of leadership law, even setting aside whether any monarchy is ever okay. What's a better system, democratic votes that favor the rich and connected? Weighted parliaments that disenfranchise vast swaths of their constituents? A man jumps into a lake and takes another man's cock off with an ice cream scoop, that happened. He didn't benefit from the gerrymandered redistricting of his region to have an unfair advantage in ice cream scooping that man's cock off, he did it with his own abilities. What I'm saying is that we need more fights to the death to determine leadership, not less.
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The Saddest Rhino posted:the netflix punisher is coming in to shoot wanda and blow up her family Weeds. The ultimate family comedy.
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Lid posted:WandaVision not doing Arrested Development is a missed opportunity. More like the Who?ssos.
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tsob posted:I'm kind of wondering how they'll work around how someone else even becomes Black Panther after T'Challa's demise in the story, given that Killmonger burned all the heart shaped herb and T'Challa ingested the last one. They'll probably say that was just one colony in the royal palace, and T'Challa was able to discover another or nurture more due to his spiritual connection or something, but they don't really seem like something that'd be growing wild (or there'd be at least one other Black Panther running around after finding some of them) and there's no reason the palace would have multiple plantations of them but only burn one on the king's orders. It might even tie in to the narrative, with the next ruler needing both to fight for the throne and to find some heart shaped herb to truly become ruler. Or Shuri will just create a synthetic herb.
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tsob posted:I'm kind of wondering how they'll work around how someone else even becomes Black Panther after T'Challa's demise in the story, given that Killmonger burned all the heart shaped herb and T'Challa ingested the last one. They'll probably say that was just one colony in the royal palace, and T'Challa was able to discover another or nurture more due to his spiritual connection or something, but they don't really seem like something that'd be growing wild (or there'd be at least one other Black Panther running around after finding some of them) and there's no reason the palace would have multiple plantations of them but only burn one on the king's orders. It might even tie in to the narrative, with the next ruler needing both to fight for the throne and to find some heart shaped herb to truly become ruler. With the multiverse about to be a thing, they could always get some from Wakanda in another universe.
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Shuri: "I analyzed Bucky's blood and made an ever better super soldier serum that I've grown into this new plant." Me: "I want to smoke that plant"
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Bleck posted:aw hell yeah hit me with the colonizer takes about Wakanda I mean, the seminal TNC/Stelfreeze run on the comic (both Black creators) which hugely influenced Coogler and the art team on the film was explicitly about reforming the Wakandan government to a constitutional monarchy with an elected council representing the tribes.
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Shuri is going to have to eat some of her brother's flesh to get power, which will also kick off Marvel Zombies in the MCU. In all seriousness though, I'm sure they will have it be a plot point in the movie. Shuri is unsure if she's worthy to inherit the mantle through the movie, she can't replicate the plant, she then somehow sees a vision of her brother, in his spiritual panther form, and she's led to a secret glen of them growing in the wild, which she then takes and transplants some back to grow in the capital. Then at the end of the movie after she takes some, she is fully introduced as the new Black Panther, powers and all. Alternately you can swap out Shuri for any other character who actual takes up the mantle. Teek fucked around with this message at 17:07 on Feb 15, 2021 |
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They’ll discover the Heart Shaped Herb growing on T’challa’s grave. It’s likely all the previous monarchs would have taken the counter drug before dying, as they pass the mantle of Black Panther on to their successor usually before they pass away.
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live with fruit posted:Or Shuri will just create a synthetic herb. Heart-shaped spice.
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