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veni veni veni posted:How someone could adore Demon's Souls and hate Dark Souls is absolutely beyond me, considering it's bar none the slowest game in the series. I kinda agree, but at the same time I've always felt like DeS was 'snappier' than DS, the animations are a bit more accentuated (similar to BB), and I played it as a glass-cannon so I always felt very maneuverable...which is just a less viable strat in DS, so I could see how people might find DS a little 'clunky'. DS3 tho, nothin clunky about that game, especially considering how robust its dual-wield system is, the game is practically as anime as Bloodborne with builds.
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Real hurthling! posted:Just a heads up the free guilty gear strive beta starts for all playstation owners on the 18th. Plus not required I've been playing a lot of DBFZ and I've decided that I'm getting into fighting games this year so I'm super keen.
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Feb 14, 2021 22:39
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looks like there's a class action suit going re: the DS5 stick drift
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Feb 14, 2021 22:40
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:looks like there's a class action suit going re: the DS5 stick drift I had to return one but it was the right stick. Apparently everyone else is getting left? I'm also not sure what the class action is about don't you just return the thing and get a replacement?
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Feb 14, 2021 22:44
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A couple hours into DS3 and I really love it so far, it certainly feels like Bloodborne but it’s Darksouls with a little Demon’s sprinkled in. DS2 had tons of content but some of the bosses (Alonne/Semlter Demons/ twin tigers) had you going through real slogs of annoying enemies to get an attempt in. I dont think I would want to replay it anytime soon.
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Feb 14, 2021 22:44
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JBP posted:I had to return one but it was the right stick. Apparently everyone else is getting left? I'm also not sure what the class action is about don't you just return the thing and get a replacement? someone butthurt
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Feb 14, 2021 22:46
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Every non joycon controller uses the same standard analog part from the same company
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Feb 14, 2021 22:47
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veni veni veni posted:How someone could adore Demon's Souls and hate Dark Souls is absolutely beyond me, considering it's bar none the slowest game in the series. My limited attempts at Dark Souls left me with the distinct impression that it was a game, at its core, about waiting. Waiting to attack, waiting to parry, blocking and waiting for stamina to regen, just the entire game was telling me to play at its speed. Demon’s Souls does not feel this way at all. As a wizard you just spam spells and roll out of the way, as Paladin I just tank through big attacks and shrug them off with regen while i continue my relentless assault. NuDes makes me feel like I can always use my superior mobility to my advantage, Dark Souls always felt like it was punishing me for trying to do anything other than slowly kite skeletons in Undead Burg, then slowly kite zombies in Blighttown, then slooooooowly kite knights in Anor Londo... All the other games let you just cruise through the game at your own pace, IMO, so it feels like I get to play more of them.
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Feb 14, 2021 23:26
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I wouldn't say Dark Souls is bad but Demon Souls is weirder, more experimental, and imho just a more unique experience. It's From's Soviet Kitsch before Begin to Hope.
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Feb 14, 2021 23:36
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Bust Rodd posted:[Pacing in Dark Souls] It's this. You just perfectly articulated what's always bugged me about Dark Souls. Much as I love being a trapper and AI psychologist in games, Dark Souls has no effective trap tools beyond pure reflex, so an entire gameplay loop about kiting and exploiting AI has no real ways to have fun with that. It's just parry-smack ad nauseum. It gets old! There's no way to turn a random goat into Yuri Goatgarin, first ungulate in SPACE...No way to get a new head to wear as a hat by having that same head smash itself silly while you cackle like a loon. They're very good games, I suppose, but there's no real way to make your own fun -- set your own pace if you wanna get all smartypants about it -- so you play how it wants you to play along those very specifically proscribed lines and no other way. To paraphrase a surprisingly rad child, "You can't tell that fish what to do!"
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Feb 14, 2021 23:49
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the problems with the dark souls games is that they lose their elite luster, unlike demons souls, which remains pure
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Feb 14, 2021 23:50
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Casnorf posted:It's just parry-smack ad nauseum. It gets old! Man, I don't feel this way at all about Dark Souls -- there are so many cool strategies based around dodging, using tools, using the environment, etc. Yes, some bosses present a more limited set of options, but you can happily beat the game never parrying or blocking a single time. Hell, you can beat the game killing almost no enemies except bosses, and kill all the bosses with sorcery if that's your jam.
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Feb 14, 2021 23:58
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Only wack losers play Dark Souls games with a shield tbf
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Feb 15, 2021 00:00
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Dark souls owns and anyone saying otherwise is just being unnecessarily nit-picky
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Feb 15, 2021 00:02
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Yeah I dislike using a shield just gimme the biggest home run bat you've got.
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Feb 15, 2021 00:03
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I think it’s Hbomb who argues that even though Souls games are kinda known for blocking that’s actually one of the least fun ways to play the game and I totally agree GREAT CLUB GANG
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Feb 15, 2021 00:04
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Its all good
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Feb 15, 2021 00:06
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whats the shield button you parry with a weapon when i say parry-smack i meant within the context of how i approach games since the items and tools at your disposal are largely there to serve the smack side of things
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Feb 15, 2021 00:14
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I liked Fallen Order more than DS3
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Feb 15, 2021 00:31
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Tbh the corny e-peen swinging from Dark Souls players about never using a shield is probably part of why some people got annoyed with Dark Souls 3. There are a bunch of low poise enemies that do mega fast combos on you that become infinitely easier if you just pull the shield off your back for 2 seconds and let them run out of stamina hitting it.
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Feb 15, 2021 00:38
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After bloodborne I stopped using a shield in souls games, the game just trained me that dodging/rolling was the move so I never pulled it out again. Well except for the first couple hours of Demon's Souls remake, before I remembered that I'd rather be rolling. But I don't begrudge anyone their shields up approach. I hated Fallen Order mainly because the level structure was so confusing and not in ways that I liked. I love From level design, but Fallen Order felt like it screwed up trying to emulate that. Also finding things in the environment felt mostly pointless because most of it was cosmetics, and some of the enemy attacks felt cheap as hell, combat did not feel nearly as fluid as the Souls games. I also realized after Squadrons that all these modern day Star Wars games have really left me wanting and I should probably stop buying them. I'm always really impressed for the first hour or two and then that wears off and I just find myself bored or annoyed.
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Feb 15, 2021 00:46
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Volte posted:How so? In all the ways that they seem similar to me, AC came first, although I haven't played Odyssey or Valhalla. For all that Ubisoft gets dunked on for constantly iterating on the same basic open-world formula, I don't think we'd have BotW as it exists without it. The two main ones that stood out to me, and where they've seemingly doubled down are the semi-randomized weapon drops and the climb-anywhere nature of traversal. The latter was this really interesting blip where multiple devs just simultaneously and apparently independently decided throwing up invisible walls and/or arbitrarily-decided climbable surfaces sucked and all around the same time we got AC Origins, BotW and, to a lesser degree stuff like Horizon Zero Dawn. No complaints there, though, that freedom is something I'm glad more games embraced. Volte posted:Fair enough. I feel weirdly the opposite about Fenyx and Breath of the Wild as you. Fenyx is pretty much always fun since no matter what I'm doing, there's always some interesting little puzzle or task to do, and I really enjoy the combat loop and regularly get into fights just because I enjoy it, while Breath of the Wild is a fine game that I enjoy being in, but nothing about it really enraptures me. The combat in particular seems almost not worth mentioning. I actively avoided fighting everything I could because it was either "use up some of the durability on my weapon to whack or shoot it to death" or "throw objects and bombs at them until they die". I know you can do some crazy tricks with powers as I've seen in various videos, but it seems like it would take an incredible amount of practice to pull some of that stuff off, not to mention putting up with the god awful rune-switching UI mid-combat, with no particular motivation to do that since fighting stuff is basically a net drain on your resources anyway and doesn't really give you anything in return. Oh, I'm in 100% agreement with you on Zelda. I actually stopped playing because I just couldn't settle into a gameplay loop that felt satisfying, especially the combat stuff. It was a bit too open and unstructured, but yeah, the emergent gameplay stuff was just having all those various systems that rewarded "I wonder if A + B = C" thinking. Things like fire propagation and some of the physics tricks seemed like they played a bigger role in BotW than Fenyx. Sorry if it wasn't clear, though, that despite it not feeling as experiment-friendly, I definitely enjoyed my time with Immortals more than Zelda. I just felt like it didn't shy away from its inspirations or roots, and it kept me sated until the end, but I didn't feel the need to go back to it.
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What am I missing??
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veni veni veni posted:Tbh the corny e-peen swinging from Dark Souls players about never using a shield is probably part of why some people got annoyed with Dark Souls 3. There are a bunch of low poise enemies that do mega fast combos on you that become infinitely easier if you just pull the shield off your back for 2 seconds and let them run out of stamina hitting it. It's just more fun to hit things with a two hander idk what this epeen is. Banging on about poise and efficiency seems more epeen than big stick fun.
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Feb 15, 2021 01:01
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Imagine ever letting the enemies get close to you. Signed, Pure sorcery gang.
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JBP posted:It's just more fun to hit things with a two hander idk what this epeen is. Banging on about poise and efficiency seems more epeen than big stick fun. I don't think you understand what that means.
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JBP posted:It's just more fun to hit things with a two hander I knew I had reached full adulthood when I realized I have a favorite hammer. It's the three-pound sledge from harbor freight, for the record. When you hit things with that hammer, they stay hit.
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Feb 15, 2021 01:33
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BeanpolePeckerwood posted:someone butthurt Also lawyers sense opportunities for easy money class actions like a bird senses north and south
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Feb 15, 2021 01:36
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When is Elden Ring coming out so people can complain about it not being Bloodborne enough
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Feb 15, 2021 01:40
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infraboy posted:When is Elden Ring coming out so people can complain about it not being Bloodborne enough why wait
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Feb 15, 2021 01:46
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I hope Elden Ring is an open-world ARPG with crafting and collectibles and horse armor
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Geo Fixer posted:I liked Fallen Order more than DS3 what the gently caress
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Eat My Ghastly rear end posted:what the gently caress Some people just have bad taste there’s no point in rationalizing it.
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veni veni veni posted:I don't think you understand what that means. Given my history with these games, am I trying to show off my epeen when I talk about preferring playing without a shield?
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infraboy posted:When is Elden Ring coming out so people can complain about it not being Bloodborne enough Elden Ring is coming out the same day as Deep Down.
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veni veni veni posted:Some people just have bad taste there’s no point in rationalizing it. I bought an XBone One X awhile back primarily as a 4K blu ray player and it came with Fallen Order. I think it might be the worst controlling game I’ve ever played
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Escobarbarian posted:Given my history with these games, am I trying to show off my epeen when I talk about preferring playing without a shield? I wasn’t trying to single you out personally, but I’ve just always found people creating this stigma against using one of the games most useful tools annoying, because new players go in thinking they aren’t supposed to be using a shield. When realistically, even most people two handing it are carrying a shield on their back and are popping it out strategically sometimes. That’s the whole reason the game lets you put a shield on your back!
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i feel like peoples complex about dark souls players has always been way more prevalent than the players they like to imagine are pointing at them, laughing at them, and taking pictures of them to send to their friends to also point and laugh at edit: its also entirely possible those people have been completely tuned out by me, but it seems like the dark souls crowd are mostly trying to convince new players not to play in a play style a lot of people hate more so than making fun of people for playing the turtle game. i think the hbomberguy dark souls 2 video addresses a lot of the shield issues and people adopted shorthand from it that maybe they go overboard with rabidsquid fucked around with this message at 02:17 on Feb 15, 2021 |
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veni veni veni posted:I don't think you understand what that means. Isn't epeen bragging online about being better
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"if you think im talking about you i am definitely talking about you" you dont have to respond to a strawman and if you arent fundamentally a little insecure about your own enjoyment of things youre not gonna take that strawman personally the question to ask isnt is this guy IMPINGING MY HONOR but why do i think hes talking about me
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