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Southpaugh posted:Considering we've had Shogun 2 which was the sengoku jidai and the two DLCs were the genpei war (late heian) and the boshin war (Meiji restoration/birth of Imperial Japan) they will definitely have us covered. I'd expect any Nippon faction to be v cool. Make Nippon based on the late-Tokugawa/early-Meiji please and thank you. Only instead of importing western weapons and ideas, they're importing Skaven weapons of... Dubious reliability. We know canonically they had contact, supposedly Clan Eshin learned the ways of sneak-sneak stabkill from Nippon.
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Cardboard Fox posted:I just noticed this on my current Tyrion playthrough. This one just has us absolutely wrecking Chaos, Dark Elves, and Orks with no issues. The AI just ripped apart 6 stacks of the Chaos invasion and they didn't even wait for me! Counterpoint: why would you ever not smash everything as Grimgor?
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Feb 19, 2021 21:35
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I really wish the Tomb Kings would do better more often since they love you once you get big and strong.
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Feb 19, 2021 21:39
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The issue with Trade agreements is due to extremely dumb way diplomatic AI is scripted to evaluate them: basically the more Trade Agreement benefits the player instead of AI, the less likely the AI is to sign it. There is some logic there, I guess, but in practical terms it means that if you are rich and have shitload of trade resources, no one will want to trade with you, while if you are destitute and have gently caress-all to trade, you will be the hottest trade partner in the Old World.  Of course, if you know how AI works, it's absolutely possible to game it: aggressively explore in early game and get trade deals with every friendly and neutral faction possible, and THEN expand your economy and develop trade resources. AI won't cancel already existing trade deals (unless your relations to them deteriorate due to other factors, of course), no matter how disadvantageous to them they become.
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Feb 19, 2021 21:41
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Khorne being all melee all the time is hella boring. Please make him the god of goofy war machines. Lemme get this guy on the battlefield.
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Eschatos posted:Khorne being all melee all the time is hella boring. Please make him the god of goofy war machines. Lemme get this guy on the battlefield. Appropriate that his angry gundam is in a wheelchair.
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Feb 19, 2021 21:53
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Goofy warmachines is what Skaven are all about Join the vermintide, friend
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SirPhoebos posted:Counterpoint: why would you ever not smash everything as Grimgor?  This is true. Friends are temporary, but the amount of factions to smash is eternal.
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Arcsquad12 posted:Appropriate that his angry gundam is in a wheelchair. is it a gundam or is it a mutated chaos warrior who khorne gifted with tank treads and a cattle catcher
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Feb 19, 2021 21:55
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Wake me up when we get that one piece of Slayer artillery that's a full-auto giant throwing axe launcher.
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Feb 19, 2021 21:57
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Flavahbeast posted:is it a gundam or is it a mutated chaos warrior who khorne gifted with tank treads and a cattle catcher It's too big to be a chaos warrior. Look st all the skulls. You think Khorne would care about tiny skulls? They're regular skulls.
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Feb 19, 2021 22:10
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Don Gato posted:Make Nippon based on the late-Tokugawa/early-Meiji please and thank you. Only instead of importing western weapons and ideas, they're importing Skaven weapons of... Dubious reliability. We know canonically they had contact, supposedly Clan Eshin learned the ways of sneak-sneak stabkill from Nippon. Gonna buck the trend here and ask for WWII Era Japan. Banzai charges, LMGs, highly mobile infantry, artillery, etc. Good luck balancing it but hey
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Feb 19, 2021 22:22
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:Gonna buck the trend here and ask for WWII Era Japan. Banzai charges, LMGs, highly mobile infantry, artillery, etc. Good luck balancing it but hey The Skaven already do an absurdly good job of covering both Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan.
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Feb 19, 2021 22:25
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Did the Workshop die for everyone else? I can't find a single mod on the search function anymore, even ones I know exist.
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Feb 19, 2021 22:29
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I mean, they don't really do they? Skaven are more nazis in a 50s pulp fiction (or just straight up cartoon) way, than actually Nazi Germany in WW2.
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Feb 19, 2021 22:29
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Telsa Cola posted:The Skaven already do an absurdly good job of covering both Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan. I just hate Skaven ok
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Feb 19, 2021 22:32
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Randarkman posted:I mean, they don't really do they? Skaven are more nazis in a 50s pulp fiction (or just straight up cartoon) way, than actually Nazi Germany in WW2. Maaybe? Racial supremacy (thats like all the races in game though), crazy hosed up warmachines and experiments. Literal Stormtroopers. Im sure others could be listed.
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Feb 19, 2021 22:32
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Their battle doctrine is more ww1, no infantry transports or real tanks.
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*Stares at stormvermin*
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*stares at gas, flame weapons, also overly engineered super weapons*
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Feb 19, 2021 22:34
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Look if Skaven get metal boxes to put their infantry into and out of then they will be ww2.
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Oh look, they are all back stabbing each other... like some sort of night of the long knives
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Third World Reagan posted:Oh look, they are all back stabbing each other... like some sort of night of the long knives While I take your point thats... not exactly limited to the Nazis
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Feb 19, 2021 22:35
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Two skaven sitting under altdorf going, are we the baddies
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Feb 19, 2021 22:36
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The skaven can both be nazis, but also not fight like the nazis did in WW2.
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Feb 19, 2021 22:36
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hmm how unlike this nazi to not be a nazi but yet
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Feb 19, 2021 22:37
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Telsa Cola posted:Maaybe? Oh. I'm not saying their not supposed to be nazis, they definitely are, and on the topic of racial supremacy, I think the Skaven are the only one where you hear them refer to themselves as the "Master Race", so yeah. I'm just saying the wacky science and mix of occult weirdo magic and protoype machinery puts them more in line with pulp fiction nazis than the nazi German military in WW2.
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ive come to personally think that the name stormvermin are ripping off star wars instead of indiana jones, that the skaven in general are lifted from the swords of lankhmar and the secret of nimh rather being a nazi allegory more specifically ive not seen a single source from the original designers that backs up that interpretation as The One True One and it can probably just be read as generic bad guy stuff in general than a strangely restrained portrayal where they managed to not make a single rat sieg heil or have a toothbrush moustache i think its a valid allegorical reading but i have doubts that such a thing was intentional
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Feb 19, 2021 22:41
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I'd just like to point out also that despite being allied, Imperial Japan was very much not Nazi Germany, so the comparison doesn't really make sense anyway
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Feb 19, 2021 22:43
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If we got brigades of rats on bicycles though, that would be cool.
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:I'd just like to point out also that despite being allied, Imperial Japan was very much not Nazi Germany, so the comparison doesn't really make sense anyway The rats are all yukio mishima imo
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Ratchurian Candidate
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:Gonna buck the trend here and ask for WWII Era Japan. Banzai charges, LMGs, highly mobile infantry, artillery, etc. Good luck balancing it but hey That sounds like combining the high mobility and ranged of the wood elves with the pure balls out aggression and charging of the beastmen with a hopefully not trash roster. Pure cheese in army form. I'm 100% down let's do it.
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eshin being imperial japan is... i mean okay. what is pestilens then? italians? they're kind of catholic in aesthetics. but also doing a protestant style reform. is this... is this the most searingly hot allegorical message created by renegades from the church of england, or is it "let's make the rats worship disease and make them literal monks because it seems like a cool idea"
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Feb 19, 2021 22:57
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i think the rats need to do less hard drugs and go to the park
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Tiler Kiwi posted:i think the rats need to do less hard drugs and go to the park I think the rats need to do more hard drugs, the drugs are working out for the rats.
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Tiler Kiwi posted:i think the rats need to do less hard drugs and go to the park You can take their radioactive magic cocaine from their cold, dead, still twitching claws.
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Feb 19, 2021 22:59
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Also no skaven can be WWII-era imperial Japan, they're far too functional, ideologically consistent and not nearly backstabby enough.
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Tiler Kiwi posted:ive come to personally think that the name stormvermin are ripping off star wars instead of indiana jones Tbf the Empire in Star Wars is heavily based on Nazis too.
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Nor do they (and correct me if I'm wrong, I'm not up to the play on Skaven) build fully loving sick mega-battleships
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