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I would be appreciative if people could be careful in navigating the line between, on one side, insights about the political economy and political culture of contemporary Russia and, on the other side, breaking out the calipers to speculate The Fundamental Russian Psyche.
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Hand Knit posted:I would be appreciative if people could be careful in navigating the line between, on one side, insights about the political economy and political culture of contemporary Russia and, on the other side, breaking out the calipers to speculate The Fundamental Russian Psyche. No ones done that last part. It's been pretty well documented and proven about the toxic masculinity and raging homophobia under the current regime.
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Matt Zerella posted:You seem to be extremely upset about one comment that was made about russiagate (probably mine). There's nothing wrong with being skeptical of the story on either side because we very well may never get the full story here. Im sorry but it was a pretty dumb comment in response to this current story. Also, what the gently caress? Saying this maybe is politically motivated is not being skeptical its being willfully ignorant. WeaponX fucked around with this message at 20:07 on Feb 22, 2021 |
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Feb 22, 2021 20:04
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Hand Knit posted:I would be appreciative if people could be careful in navigating the line between, on one side, insights about the political economy and political culture of contemporary Russia and, on the other side, breaking out the calipers to speculate The Fundamental Russian Psyche. How about we talk about how the Toronto Maple Leafs lost to a 43 year old Zamboni driver who works for them?
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Feb 22, 2021 20:05
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stab posted:How about we talk about how the Toronto Maple Leafs lost to a 43 year old Zamboni driver who works for them? Do tell
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Feb 22, 2021 20:06
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Regardless of whether or not these allegations are true, Jim Benning should step down.
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WeaponX posted:Im sorry but it was a pretty dumb comment in response to this current story. Also, what the gently caress? It's really not if you paid any attention to the Pussy Riot protests.
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Feb 22, 2021 20:08
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stab posted:How about we talk about how the Toronto Maple Leafs lost to a 43 year old Zamboni driver who works for them? A happy Ayresaversary to you too. May all your teams be so blessed to make such a contribution to hockey and sports history.
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Feb 22, 2021 20:08
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Matt Zerella posted:It's really not if you paid any attention to the Pussy Riot protests. This was your comment... Matt Zerella posted:People are way too quick to dismiss poo poo coming out of Russia because of BIG BAD PUTIN RUSSIAGATE REEEEEE.. Its still dumb.
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Feb 22, 2021 20:12
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WeaponX posted:This was your comment... I don't think its dumb at all to say everyones been disturbingly quick to dismiss this as purely political RUSSIA OMG PUTIN when its a country that's reclassified fist offenders of domestic abuse to a misdemeanor. I can see there are political and social timings to this (RE: the olympics). But it's not completely out of the question that a young Panarin, growing up where he did, beat the poo poo out of a woman and got it covered up. I legitimately hope I am very wrong (which I usually am!) and that this is purely political. I also think it's very gross to dismiss it outright because of the source and current political climate in Russia.
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Feb 22, 2021 20:25
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Believe insane Russian men who once punched out a team doctor.
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I'm not going to let all these stories about how cool Nazarov is cloud my judgement.
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I'm fairly comfortable with the Leafs' role of constantly being disappointing dunces that find new depths to sink to, I think losing to Ayres is preferable to the reality where they win and the news cycle is dominated with takes on how evil the Leafs are for embarrassing their own employee on national TV, how the NHL is a joke for not having a 'neutral' EBUG on-site, conspiracies about Ayres throwing the game because he's an employee and the accompanying negative publicity towards a good guy, etc. Nicer for the team to just be laughed at like the soft under-performers they are and get a feel-good story about under-appreciated staff.
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Flocons de Jambon posted:I'm not going to let all these stories about how cool Nazarov is cloud my judgement. your honor, the defense would like to enter in "Andre Nazarov vs Krystof Oliwa - Round 8" from Youtube in as Exhibit 19,
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That Ayres game was the most entertaining game of the whole season so the Leafs should be happy to have been a part of it.. even if they were the ones that got posterized.
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xzzy posted:That Ayres game was the most entertaining game of the whole season so the Leafs should be happy to have been a part of it.. even if they were the ones that got posterized. The look on his face as he walked into the canes locker room and they all went nuts was so great. Dude absolutely lived the goddamn dream.
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Matt Zerella posted:I don't think its dumb at all to say everyones been disturbingly quick to dismiss this as purely political RUSSIA OMG PUTIN when its a country that's reclassified fist offenders of domestic abuse to a misdemeanor. Nobody is dismissing it outright. They are dismissing it because of the incredibly questionable timing and source who literally said it was politically motivated. He actually said that. He is also a well-known liar and perhaps, complete psychopath. That is not outright dismissal, that is just very basic logic. It has nothing to do with the psychological geo-political makeup of Russia or whatever you are trying to get at.
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I understand believing women when they accuse powerful men of misconduct, and victim blaming is absolutely inacceptable in any circumstance. That being said, has any woman even come forward, or is it just this shitstain former coach of his claiming he did that? Don't psyche yourself into believing these accusations with a clear political bent just because of the "Russian psyche" or whatever. Until an actual victim comes forward, this is just the word of some guy who hates Panarin because of his politics, and explicitly stated he did this because Panarin "attacked" Putin politically. Right now there's as much "evidence" in this case as there is for Trump seeing "Muslims" celebrating 9/11.
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DildenAnders posted:I understand believing women when they accuse powerful men of misconduct, and victim blaming is absolutely inacceptable in any circumstance. That being said, has any woman even come forward, or is it just this shitstain former coach of his claiming he did that? Don't psyche yourself into believing these accusations with a clear political bent just because of the "Russian psyche" or whatever. Until an actual victim comes forward, this is just the word of some guy who hates Panarin because of his politics, and explicitly stated he did this because Panarin "attacked" Putin politically. Right now there's as much "evidence" in this case as there is for Trump seeing "Muslims" celebrating 9/11. We're probably never going to see the full story here between the politics, Russian and American media, and nhl/rangers (possibly even Chicago and Columbus) PR.
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Let's cloudy this up some more: https://twitter.com/ikhurshudyan/status/1363873195087003653 Isabelle is a Washington Post reporter based in Moscow. e- More: https://twitter.com/ikhurshudyan/status/1363940517243985924 https://twitter.com/ikhurshudyan/status/1363940520473600000 https://twitter.com/ikhurshudyan/status/1363940522834989059 CBJSprague24 fucked around with this message at 21:30 on Feb 22, 2021 |
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CBJSprague24 posted:Let's cloudy this up some more: I don't get the point of what she's saying Basically..."what's he so upset about this is no big deal and probably not the Russian state threatening him I dunno I GUESS something might be going on but sure sounds like Panarin is acting funny!" If we operated under the assumption that the allegations are fabrications it doesn't' seem wild to think that Panarin views this as a veiled threat. poo poo, even if the allegations are true it doesn't seem wild to see it as a threat to his family etc
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Tony DeAngelo steps in to defend his teammate. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDmGhethEoQ
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Zodijackylite posted:Tony DeAngelo steps in to defend his teammate. It's been way too fuckin long since I've watched My Cousin Vinnie.
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Levitate posted:If we operated under the assumption that the allegations are fabrications it doesn't' seem wild to think that Panarin views this as a veiled threat. poo poo, even if the allegations are true it doesn't seem wild to see it as a threat to his family etc Entirely possible the public allegations were accompanied by a privately delivered, more personal threat.
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How about a different Russian, Kirill Kaprizov, sitting on the top of the rookie points board? Not going to lie, hes been quite the player in most games. Great control and hes been jumping on passes and forcing turnovers and then turning them into attacking plays. I havent been this excited about Wild draft picks/rookies in many years. Its kind of nice that hes a couple years older too, much less waiting on development. Also, Calen Addison looked pretty decent mostly. Still a little nervy on a few plays, but over all solid defensively. Hes back to Iowa for hopefully some more minutes.
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Zodijackylite posted:Tony DeAngelo steps in to defend his teammate. Knowing Tony, he's defending the Russians, not Bread.
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Jhet posted:How about a different Russian, Kirill Kaprizov, sitting on the top of the rookie points board? Not going to lie, hes been quite the player in most games. Great control and hes been jumping on passes and forcing turnovers and then turning them into attacking plays. I havent been this excited about Wild draft picks/rookies in many years. Its kind of nice that hes a couple years older too, much less waiting on development. He's 23. It's not as impressive when they're old. If they can remember not having a cellphone, boring.
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https://twitter.com/SabresPR/status/1363960732132519938 that guy
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That drat shootout for a playoff berth vs the flyers.
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Christ, it'd be quicker to list the parts of his leg that still work
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Aphrodite posted:He's 23. It's not as impressive when they're old. Yeah. I expect that the muted media attention is because hes 23 and also because hes in MN. I will take that over someone who can barely remember to get to practice on time because theyre posting on Instagram. Still, hes been good and pretty consistent so far and Ill take that every year. The way he plays, I would expect a point per game average is a decent shout.
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McCabe and Risto were playing the best hockey of their entire careers so far this season, especially together. Risto got bad COVID symptoms and wont be back for weeks, if at all. And then this. gently caress. gently caress!
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:Christ, it'd be quicker to list the parts of his leg that still work In football they call it the "Terrible Triad," it's basically complete destruction of the knee joint.
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