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Oh the Blob is a good one for form rebel, I wish I had included that.
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# ? Feb 28, 2021 01:04 |
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Sign me up as Size Purist Form Rebel. Sorry, Pigmon.
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# ? Feb 28, 2021 01:46 |
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I may be radical kaiju anarchy Edit: how do we classify the Angels in Neon Genesis Evangelion? Gatts fucked around with this message at 01:52 on Feb 28, 2021 |
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Gatts posted:I may be radical kaiju anarchy Those are just kaiju in the Ultraman/UltraSeven style
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# ? Feb 28, 2021 02:10 |
Burkion posted:Beast is pretty much only good for the effects and nothing more. The short story is also one of the best kaiju prose anything in history, for the record. That thing *captures* what it means to be a kaiju story Are there any good kaiju novels?
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# ? Feb 28, 2021 02:28 |
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I find that kaiju status is more contextual. A regular T-Rex is not a kaiju, but the T-Rex in Jurassic Park is a kaiju specifically because she brutalizes a smaller SUV. A kaiju can be any size, but must be giant in relation to something. So, with the T-Rex, you have disparity of scale (since most animals can't flip an SUV), plus the crucial element of monstrosity (since a T-Rex shouldn't be alive in the early 1990s and definitely shouldn't be running loose on the streets).
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# ? Feb 28, 2021 02:49 |
Any person taller than 6'11 is a kaiju.
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# ? Feb 28, 2021 02:52 |
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Vince MechMahon posted:Any person taller than 6'11 is a kaiju. Well....I mean...that may explain Shaq
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# ? Feb 28, 2021 02:53 |
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Gatts posted:I may be radical kaiju anarchy early ones kaiju, later ones cosmic horrors personally for me kaiju should be relatively unaware of the humans around them, so the first few angels stomping aound tokyo and fighting giant robots clearly are kaiju, but the later ones that invades the computer or infects asukas mind is too personal to still be a kaiju mandatory lesbian fucked around with this message at 03:08 on Feb 28, 2021 |
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:a T-Rex shouldn't be alive in the early 1990s and definitely shouldn't be running loose on the streets whoa now, let's not say things we can't take back
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# ? Feb 28, 2021 03:18 |
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It wasn’t until that image but Christine absolutely is a Kaiju
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# ? Feb 28, 2021 03:22 |
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Well a T-Rex definitely shouldn't be hanging out with Whoopi Goldberg
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# ? Feb 28, 2021 03:22 |
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mandatory lesbian posted:early ones kaiju, later ones cosmic horrors Are you suggesting that something can't be both a kaiju and a cosmic horror?
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# ? Feb 28, 2021 03:28 |
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alternatively,
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# ? Feb 28, 2021 03:31 |
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All Angels fit perfectly fine with Ultraman kaiju. Like I said. Ultraman starts with Godzilla as the basic kaiju and goes from there.
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# ? Feb 28, 2021 03:34 |
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Speaking of untraditional kaiju, one element that a lot of the classics share is how they use their monsters to confront a traumatic memory or narrative. Godzilla is the most famous example, but there are more of them. Take this plot, for example, and try to guess which giant monster film I'm describing: A local community's peace is disturbed when some strange creature wanders in. Nobody knows where it came from or where it's going, but it's a scary thing - a monster born out of a terrible event that everybody would rather just forget. Local authorities respond with violence to the situation, thinking they can deny the past, but all it does is hurt and provoke the monster. It goes on a rampage, coming in from the wild towards the nearest city, and nobody proves capable of stopping it. Their toughest men cannot do a single thing as this strange beast burns through the town, surrounded by fire and wrecking buildings. It only ends when they get the beast cornered, almost by accident, and those involved finally realize that they must face the past head on to make peace with it and learn from it. They send out a man who feels a personal connection with the monster, someone who is willing to sacrifice himself if necessary. Only then is the beast calmed and can normal life resume. Is it Godzilla? War of the Worlds? Psych, it's kaiju-Stallone in First Blood.
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# ? Feb 28, 2021 03:38 |
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Gripweed posted:Are you suggesting that something can't be both a kaiju and a cosmic horror? no but i think the two angels im talking about arent kaiju and can only really see cosmic horror as fitting what i see them as you are free to disagree
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# ? Feb 28, 2021 03:57 |
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I have no idea how Kong is going to survive that fight on the ocean. I get that they probably wanted to mix up the battles where one Kaiju has a home field edge over the other. But the ocean? Also, somebody has gotta train these jet pilots better. Whoever told them "strafe them at point blank range, they probably won't swipe/tail slap/chomp you out of the sky" needs to get fired.
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# ? Feb 28, 2021 03:57 |
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Panfilo posted:I have no idea how Kong is going to survive that fight on the ocean. I get that they probably wanted to mix up the battles where one Kaiju has a home field edge over the other. But the ocean? Isn't it basically tradition that godzilla/godzilla-adjacent movies have a "Military Being Useless" sequence where their strategies do zilch and then they get blown up and everyone goes "welp, we tried that approach, time for the experts to handle things" If they're hurting for runtime, they may even get more than one sequence
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# ? Feb 28, 2021 04:26 |
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Classical Kaiju must imperil a train of some sort at some point. Godzilla 14 got this correct for its monsters.
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# ? Feb 28, 2021 05:05 |
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Whoa, Gamera 3 really perfected his design. The first two are rad and all, but 30 minutes in this is blowing everything before out of the water.
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# ? Feb 28, 2021 05:18 |
It's only a kaiju if I wanna gently caress it. Godzilla? Kaiju. King Kong? Kaiju. Heddorah? Oh yeah, kaiju. Mothra? Not a kaiju.
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# ? Feb 28, 2021 05:23 |
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Exactly. I want to love, respect, and cherish Mothra. She's marriage material.
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# ? Feb 28, 2021 05:27 |
Gripweed posted:Are you suggesting that something can't be both a kaiju and a cosmic horror? *tickle tickle tickle tickle tickle tickle*
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# ? Feb 28, 2021 06:06 |
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After thinking about it while at work, I retract my previous statement and say the Blob is definitely in the lefthand column, size pending. Monster here doesn't mean "scary", but rather an unnatural creature. You see a Blob movie, you call it a monster movie. The 50 FT Woman is not monstrous outside of her unusual size. A movie about a regular woman wouldn't be called a monster film, unless you count The Iron Lady (har har).
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# ? Feb 28, 2021 06:51 |
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Vince MechMahon posted:Any person taller than 6'11 is a kaiju. That's a kaijin, not a kaiju. Matango is an example of another kaijin. A T-Rex isn't a kaiju because we know too much about them. Kaiju are, by literal definition, "mysterious beasts". Size doesn't seem to matter too much though. Kanegon is considered a kaiju, even though he has human origins (why he isn't considered a kaijin is a mystery). But once they reach a really big size, then they become daikaiju (big or giant kaiju). One of my favorite places to hang out in Nakano is the DaiKaiju Salon. It's fun! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fxGfDCoECs
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# ? Feb 28, 2021 06:53 |
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:It wasn’t until that image but Christine absolutely is a Kaiju Christine is a Tsukumogami- a "tool kami". An old object that has become embodied by a spirit.
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# ? Feb 28, 2021 06:56 |
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Since we're delving into the history of the genre, here's a 1921 kaiju film: Dreams of the Rarebit Fiend: The Pet https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s39jimMyAFI Panfilo posted:I have no idea how Kong is going to survive that fight on the ocean. I get that they probably wanted to mix up the battles where one Kaiju has a home field edge over the other. But the ocean? Yeah they shoulda gone with a Marine Kong if they wanted an ocean fight https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHc1nKj4YN4
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# ? Feb 28, 2021 07:05 |
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Here's a new TV spot that shows that the new film recreates a certain iconic scene from the 1962 King Kong vs Godzilla film. Linked because the thumbnail shows the scene, in case anyone is in a media blackout: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vT2YMTNlHfw&ab_channel=Gojira675
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# ? Feb 28, 2021 07:21 |
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Oh hell yes please dear kaiju gods let him tumble down a mountain rear end over teacups straight into godzilla
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# ? Feb 28, 2021 07:26 |
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GATOS Y VATOS posted:
Not that much? We make guesses because we've found the bones but theres always debate about whether it hunted or scavenged, how much fat it had, feathers etc. Pretty mysterous.
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# ? Feb 28, 2021 13:30 |
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GATOS Y VATOS posted:That's a kaijin, not a kaiju. Go ahead and tell me with a straight face that Andre the Giant wasn't a kaiju
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# ? Feb 28, 2021 15:03 |
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massive spider posted:Not that much? We make guesses because we've found the bones but theres always debate about whether it hunted or scavenged, how much fat it had, feathers etc. Pretty mysterous. -There are very, very, very few large tetrapods that actually do nothing but scavenge. Like, the list might just be 'vultures, some of them.' Most carnivores won't pass up a free meal, and very few carnivores pass up a good opportunity to turn something INTO a meal. Setting up a harsh dichotomy between the two isn't very reasonable. -Vultures have a very specific thing that lets them work, which are that they're incredibly efficient soarers and can survey and cover huge distances in search of carrion very very efficiently and relatively quickly. Tyrannosaurus, although it's got beautiful long runner legs for a theropod its size, does not share this advantage. It's hard to be both fast and energetically efficient while chasing cadavers when you're forty feet long and fifteen feet tall. -Also there are a fair number of fossils of dinosaurs contemporary with T. rex that have partially-healed bite marks from T. rex teeth in them. So clearly they had no problems biting things that weren't dead yet.
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# ? Feb 28, 2021 15:24 |
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GATOS Y VATOS posted:A T-Rex isn't a kaiju because we know too much about them. Kaiju are, by literal definition, "mysterious beasts". I don’t know about that; there are so many kaiju movies where they’re like “oh yeah, that’s a mutant Godzillasaurus from this exact time time and location. Here’s an artist’s rendering, copy of his skeleton, scan of his genetic code, driver’s licence, etc.” Like ‘size’ and ‘monstrosity’, mysteriousness is very relative!
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# ? Feb 28, 2021 15:28 |
Is Night of the Lepus a kaiju film?
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# ? Feb 28, 2021 15:41 |
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Asterite34 posted:Is Night of the Lepus a kaiju film? Yes.
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# ? Feb 28, 2021 15:41 |
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Singular Point Godzilla soft vinyl revealed https://twitter.com/pasinpasin/status/1366044644698546180?s=20
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# ? Feb 28, 2021 16:35 |
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also lol at the Jet Jaguar sofubi
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# ? Feb 28, 2021 16:38 |
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What. The. gently caress.
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# ? Feb 28, 2021 16:45 |
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I know I say this every time it comes up, but that is one Robotics;Notes rear end robot
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# ? Feb 28, 2021 16:54 |