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Augus
Mar 9, 2015


Harrow posted:

My real problem with Luna is that I thought Stella looked really cool in the Versus XIII stuff and I wish we'd gotten her.

theres a lot of really cool stuff in the Versus XIII trailers that never came to fruition and it’s a shame.
the combat system they were going for looked a lot more fun than what we actually got from XV, you can see a lot of traces of it in 7R’s combat.

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Instant Grat
Jul 31, 2009

Just add
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Man, they're just gonna go right ahead and put the title "FINAL FANTASY VII REMAKE INTERGRADE" on the spine and cover of an actual video game, huh

Instant Grat
Jul 31, 2009

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Grizzled Patriarch posted:

I wonder if the additional content is gonna just be freely accessible from the main menu or something if you've already beaten the game - I enjoyed it a lot but honestly I don't think I've got another full replay of it in me just to see some new side content, as fun as Yuffie looks.

I just got a promo email from Squeenix that specifically refers to it as "The standalone new episode featuring Yuffie"

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



Instant Grat posted:

Man, they're just gonna go right ahead and put the title "FINAL FANTASY VII REMAKE INTERGRADE" on the spine and cover of an actual video game, huh



Hopefully each subsequent part (lol) gets a 'Re' title followed by an 'Inter' GOTY edition a year later.

Reunion Interplanetary obviously being the finale.

CharlieFoxtrot
Mar 27, 2007

organize digital employees



FF7 Remake Tardigrade

Instant Grat
Jul 31, 2009

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stev posted:

Hopefully each subsequent part (lol) gets a 'Re' title followed by an 'Inter' GOTY edition a year later.

Reunion Interplanetary obviously being the finale.

Part 2 (of 3) is Restitution Intermezzo

CharlieFoxtrot
Mar 27, 2007

organize digital employees



Do we think that Wutai will somehow end up in R2 at this point? Yuffie definitely but the actual Wutai is a bit out of the way of the canon path

Xad
Jul 2, 2009

"Either Sonic is God, or could kill God, and I do not care if there is a difference!"

College Slice

CharlieFoxtrot posted:

FF7 Remake Tardigrade

hey maybe don't

Asterite34
May 19, 2009



Xad posted:

hey maybe don't

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tardigrade :confused:

shoeberto
Jun 13, 2020

which way to the MACHINES?

CharlieFoxtrot posted:

Do we think that Wutai will somehow end up in R2 at this point? Yuffie definitely but the actual Wutai is a bit out of the way of the canon path

I was actually thinking that it's not crazy to have her in Midgar. She can be recruited on disk 1 overworld right? So the idea that she just drops in to Midgar isn't too crazy.


But I'm also rationalizing because I realize they're just gonna poo poo all over the original plot regardless of whether it could theoretically be canon still.

Photex
Apr 6, 2009




So with the new OST out and it being 156 tracks with a lot of just samey variations I went click through really quick and got this list which is pretty close to the original first disk, hope it's helpful for anyone who wants to just listen to some particular songs.

Edit: Obviously feel free to correct me, some of the stuff isn't 1:1

code:
#9 Shinra
#15 Barrett's Theme
#16 Anxious Heart
#17 Tifa's Theme
#18 Who Are You?
#27 Lurking In The Darkness
#29 Motorcycle Chase
#56 Those Who Fight
#58 Turk's Theme?
#60 Flowers Blooming in the Church
#61 Underneath The Rotting Pizza
#62 Anxious Heart Pt 2?
#64 Hollow Overworld
#70 Oppressed People
#73 Chocobo Waltz?
#76 Honeybee Manor
#83 Hell House?
#93 Don of the Slums
#129 Infilitrating Shinra Tower
#136 JENOVA
#138 Turk Theme Pt 2?
#140 Trail of Blood?
#145 JENOVA Pt 2
#147 Those Who Fight Orchestra
#153 One Winged Angel
#154 You Can Hear The Cry of the Planet
#155 Hollow 
#156 Main Theme/Aerith's Theme

Leal
Oct 2, 2009

Sorry OP, you're on SA.

Chaotic Flame
Jun 1, 2009

So...


Photex posted:

So with the new OST out and it being 156 tracks with a lot of just samey variations I went click through really quick and got this list which is pretty close to the original first disk, hope it's helpful for anyone who wants to just listen to some particular songs.

Edit: Obviously feel free to correct me, some of the stuff isn't 1:1

code:
#9 Shinra
#15 Barrett's Theme
#16 Anxious Heart
#17 Tifa's Theme
#18 Who Are You?
#27 Lurking In The Darkness
#29 Motorcycle Chase
#56 Those Who Fight
#58 Turk's Theme?
#60 Flowers Blooming in the Church
#61 Underneath The Rotting Pizza
#62 Anxious Heart Pt 2?
#64 Hollow Overworld
#70 Oppressed People
#73 Chocobo Waltz?
#76 Honeybee Manor
#83 Hell House?
#93 Don of the Slums
#129 Infilitrating Shinra Tower
#136 JENOVA
#138 Turk Theme Pt 2?
#140 Trail of Blood?
#145 JENOVA Pt 2
#147 Those Who Fight Orchestra
#153 One Winged Angel
#154 You Can Hear The Cry of the Planet
#155 Hollow 
#156 Main Theme/Aerith's Theme

I appreciate this

Grizzled Patriarch
Mar 27, 2014

These dentures won't stop me from tearing out jugulars in Thunderdome.



Schwartzcough posted:

I mean, they've said that your PS4 saves will transfer over, and if you beat the game you have chapter select unlocked, so at most you'd be forced to play through a chapter again. But I'd be shocked if the DLC wasn't just selectable from the menu.

Oh wow I completely forgot about chapter select lol.

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Xad posted:

hey maybe don't

what

Instant Grat
Jul 31, 2009

Just add
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op presumably not aware of water bears and so assumed "Tardigrade" was a variation on a slur against disabled people

Xad
Jul 2, 2009

"Either Sonic is God, or could kill God, and I do not care if there is a difference!"

College Slice

Instant Grat posted:

op presumably not aware of water bears and so assumed "Tardigrade" was a variation on a slur against disabled people

no I know what a tardigrade is but I thought they were making a joke using "re" and the first four letters of "tardigrade"

CharlieFoxtrot
Mar 27, 2007

organize digital employees



Xad posted:

no I know what a tardigrade is but I thought they were making a joke using "re" and the first four letters of "tardigrade"

I was not doing this :)

I didn't even think about the remake part and just posted the first -grade word that came to mind since "Intergrade" is funny

ZenMasterBullshit
Nov 2, 2011

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A Climactic Encounter Ending on 1 Negate and a Dream

Xad posted:

no I know what a tardigrade is but I thought they were making a joke using "re" and the first four letters of "tardigrade"


No that's just your weird projection.

TL
Jan 16, 2006

Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold; Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world

Fallen Rib
Very excited to play EC as my understanding is that it finally adds Iscar Matthias to the canon.

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.
Finally beat Final Fantasy IX.

I can't imagine playing the game without Moguri Mod. The HD backgrounds, PSX font, and 100% steal make the game so much better. Though after I beat the final boss the game crashed after the second cutscene so I had to watch the end on Youtube.

I really enjoyed it. My biggest issue with the game is that it can be a bit generic at times which makes me seldom want to play it for more than thirty minutes at a time. The game is also pretty grindy toward the end and the final boss is homage to Final Fantasy V's final boss which is definitely not a compliment. I still enjoyed the characters and world and the game is definitely a classic Final Fantasy. The story was engaging and memorable and there were a lot of great set pieces. I'm a bit split on the battle system though. On one hand I like the turnbased ATB system. But on the other there is a delay when the character attacks to the point where they can perform an action well after I select it so healing an ally well after they've already died is common. It's not like this can't happen in previous games but it's constant here. It's also dumb that tent's don't fully restore your HP and MP.

I've come a long way since last year where the only two Final Fantasy's I've played were X and VII.

If I had to rank the one's I've played it would be:

XIV (Expansions) - 400+ hours and no regrets. Best Final Fantasy, Best MMO. I will say that while all single player Final Fantasy's are like watching movies, this game is like binging a "prestige TV" series.
VII - Not much else needs to be said about this game. But one thing people often overlook is how replayable it is. Replaying this game is like rewatching one of your classic films. It's so well paced.
X - The first game in the series I've played so I'm biased, but it's still very unique and memorable.
V - The game's story, while entertaining, may not be the best, but the meat of the game is the wonderful battle and class system. Arguably still the best in the series. It also has that "old school Final Fantasy" charm.
IX - As I said above, the game has a great world, characters, and an interesting story. But it just fails to make me want to play for long periods of time and the battle system can be a mess. Plus why learn abilities via gear?
VI - Probably controversial but while the game was very good it's a farcry from "among the best ever". The battle system is a huge downgrade from it's predecessor and the world and characters like any cohesion. Kefka is great though.
XIV (Vanilla) - I felt like separating this from the expansions because vanilla XIV just isn't that good. It certainly lays the foundation for things but storywise it's very whitebread. Real FFXIV doesn't start until Heavensward.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Xad posted:

no I know what a tardigrade is but I thought they were making a joke using "re" and the first four letters of "tardigrade"
you doing this is making a bigger deal of it and is more uncomfortable than someone saying something that vaguely sounds like the word, regardless of if that second person was doing it to try and make a lovely joke

Grizzled Patriarch
Mar 27, 2014

These dentures won't stop me from tearing out jugulars in Thunderdome.



Speaking of the VII Remake, does anyone remember off the top of their head what chapter it is where Aerith is talking about how she almost prefers seeing the bottom of the plates to seeing the actual sky? Trying to remember the exact quote, and I think she says something similar in Crisis Core?

Schwartzcough
Aug 12, 2009

Don't tease the Octopus, kids!

Grizzled Patriarch posted:

Speaking of the VII Remake, does anyone remember off the top of their head what chapter it is where Aerith is talking about how she almost prefers seeing the bottom of the plates to seeing the actual sky? Trying to remember the exact quote, and I think she says something similar in Crisis Core?

Other than at the very end of the game, post-final boss, it's when you're going across the rooftops after meeting her. Chapter 7, I think?

anakha
Sep 16, 2009


Grizzled Patriarch posted:

Speaking of the VII Remake, does anyone remember off the top of their head what chapter it is where Aerith is talking about how she almost prefers seeing the bottom of the plates to seeing the actual sky? Trying to remember the exact quote, and I think she says something similar in Crisis Core?

Schwartzcough posted:

it's when you're going across the rooftops after meeting her. Chapter 7, I think?

Yep.

Grizzled Patriarch
Mar 27, 2014

These dentures won't stop me from tearing out jugulars in Thunderdome.



Perfect, thanks guys!

Kin
Nov 4, 2003

Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.
Finally finished IX at the weekend and i'm now on FFX.

How well revered is the sphere grid? I keep on reading about how easy it is to complete but i swear that it just seems monotonous.

Not only does your character have to be in battle but they need to actually attack an enemy to get any AP. Then you need to have the right sphere's to upgrade the stats and unlock abilities. Completing it will take hundreds of spheres for each character if you're looking to max stats and such.

I've used the PC boosts to give me all items and such to see how quickly I could fill it in and it took a solid 10 minutes of just spamming the button on master spheres for one character.

Is the point that you're only really supposed to specialise characters?

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

i

yeah you're supposed to specialize characters. it isnt meant to be a thing where you 'max it out'. thats the fun part of it.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

The Sphere Grid is a very beautiful visualized way of presenting a characters leveling path to you while pretending like you have real control over it. It is also insanely slow to use and best if you spread it over the length of the game as you are finding out first hand. If you're using cheats to jump off the intended path you are getting none of its value.

I like it aesthetically and conceptually a lot but the execution leaves a lot to be desired even if the flip side version of it from XIII has the inverse problems.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

also if you want to actually customize it you have to use the expert grid, yeah

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


The sphere grid is a 95% linear path until around the time you get the airship, at which point you can then specialize your characters and do all the celestial weapon hunts or just end the game right there at any point. The exception to this is Kimahri, who you can take down any other character's path early. Unless you just love the monster arena and want to play FFX for hundreds of hours it's very unlikely you'll complete even two of any characters' paths on any one member of your party.

No Dignity
Oct 15, 2007

Kin posted:

Finally finished IX at the weekend and i'm now on FFX.

How well revered is the sphere grid? I keep on reading about how easy it is to complete but i swear that it just seems monotonous.

Not only does your character have to be in battle but they need to actually attack an enemy to get any AP. Then you need to have the right sphere's to upgrade the stats and unlock abilities. Completing it will take hundreds of spheres for each character if you're looking to max stats and such.

I've used the PC boosts to give me all items and such to see how quickly I could fill it in and it took a solid 10 minutes of just spamming the button on master spheres for one character.

Is the point that you're only really supposed to specialise characters?

Please stop ruining games for yourself with cheats

Sakurazuka
Jan 24, 2004

NANI?

multijoe posted:

Please stop ruining games for yourself with cheats

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


Oh I missed that part why would you cheat yourself to max level and then complain that it took you 10 minutes to fill out the sphere grid lol.

Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

Worth mentioning that filling out the entire sphere grid is something you can do if you get really into the postgame, but that's the postgame and you're not supposed to get anywhere close to that during the main story.

Augus
Mar 9, 2015


Kin posted:

I've used the PC boosts to give me all items and such to see how quickly I could fill it in and it took a solid 10 minutes of just spamming the button on master spheres for one character.

Um
why

Harrow
Jun 30, 2012

To seriously respond for a second:

Yes, filling out the sphere grid takes ages if you do it all at once, and that's because you're not supposed to do that because it's supposed to happen little by little over the course of the game. By the end of the main story, unless you go way far out of your way to grind, each character will have finished out their portion of the sphere grid and maybe gotten part of the way into someone else's, and that's it.

You can't even max out all your stats if you just activate every node on the grid--you need to use special spheres to add extra stat nodes and replace low-value ones with higher-value ones if you want to pull that off. And again, that's not something you should even be thinking about during the main story. It's really only for the postgame grind for doing the superbosses.

I think Kin was the poster who had a weird experience with FF9 due to using cheats and turning off battles, so all I can really say is: yes, the cheats exist, but that's not how the games are meant to be played on a first playthrough and it turns out if you screw with all of a game's systems right off the bat with cheats, you're going to have a weird impression of those systems. Obviously you're allowed to do that, they're just single-player games you can engage with however you want to, but I'd strongly recommend just playing them normally for your first playthrough or you're going to continue having weird experiences with them.

Papercut
Aug 24, 2005
Use the expert grid, it turns leveling/customizing your characters into real choices and is fun

Kin
Nov 4, 2003

Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.

Idle curiosity for the most part but i'm mainly just quickly getting through these old final fantasies to reply the stories.

edit: i should note i've already beaten these games years ago. I've just not played them since they first came out. Breaking the games and getting through them quickly is all i'm really looking to do.

Kin fucked around with this message at 20:09 on Mar 1, 2021

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Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

https://twitter.com/Nibellion/status/1366371726490279936

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