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If you want grimdark, hard Pokémon, just play Shin Megami Tensei. 
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Zuzie posted:I've said this before, but you cannot write a serious drama filled story when your main form of combat is getting squirrels to fight each other. You 100% can. In fact, a lot of franchises make their bones playing a super serious melodramatic story 100% straight while still being about a goofy kids game.
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Mar 2, 2021 14:14
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Flopsy posted:My dude I think you've had enough....it's okay to come back to Poke tent. We have exp.candy and nature mints. Oh that's what that item is.
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Mar 2, 2021 14:26
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Silegna posted:Lusamine in Sun and Moon had some very good points. "How is me freezing the pokemon for all eternity any different than them being stuck in a PC?" She would've had more of a point in any other game, but sadly SM is the one that finally let your boxed mons actually do stuff too, and stuff that isn't literally slaving away at a job to get you money and items like SwSh did.
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Mar 2, 2021 14:43
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Mimikyu deserves better. 
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Mar 2, 2021 15:00
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I mean I've always figured it was like the anime showed and they chilled with the professor or whatever anyway.
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Mar 2, 2021 15:00
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Vegetable posted:Shinies should really be more common or they're just wasting the time spent re-coloring those buggers. A bump from fuckin' 0.01% to 10% would allow everyone to have some shinies without making them too common. Though I'm of the opinion that they should be more like 25%. to be fair, the base rate in SWSH is actually 0.00024%, so even your low estimate there would make them 40x as common 
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Mar 2, 2021 15:01
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Silegna posted:Lusamine in Sun and Moon had some very good points. "How is me freezing the pokemon for all eternity any different than them being stuck in a PC?" I felt so bad when Lillie tried to defend my decades of horrific crimes against pokemon. Blaze Dragon posted:She would've had more of a point in any other game, but sadly SM is the one that finally let your boxed mons actually do stuff too, and stuff that isn't literally slaving away at a job to get you money and items like SwSh did. She was right on previous games' ccount and frankly, sending all the mons i didnt care for to break their backs in mines and beans plantations isnt much better.
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Mar 2, 2021 15:32
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Which is why in Sun and Moon you send them to a remote archipelago to live and chill and offer incentives to go and spelunking and farm and poo poo.
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Mar 2, 2021 15:58
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A Sometimes Food posted:I mean I've always figured it was like the anime showed and they chilled with the professor or whatever anyway.
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Mar 2, 2021 16:17
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Oxyclean posted:That sort of works until you start thinking about how that works when everyone is using the PC system. Most people don't catch pokemon at volume like the psychopaths that are the main characters.
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Mar 2, 2021 16:23
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karmicknight posted:Most people don't catch pokemon at volume like the psychopaths that are the main characters. True, the average person you run into has like, a family pokemon, or a small team. But there's organizations that have a workforce of pokemon, gym leaders probably have more then 6, and there's plenty of trainer types through the games that almost certainly have more pokemon then they battle you with. (Bug Catchers and Maniacs for example?) e: This is funny/neat: https://twitter.com/Wunkolo/status/1366611659934949379?s=20 Oxyclean fucked around with this message at 16:54 on Mar 2, 2021 |
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Mar 2, 2021 16:27
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hi pokechat I have an umbreon wall with Dark Pulse/Assurance/Moonlight/Confuse Ray. Somehow I missed that he could get Toxic which is a slam dunk imo. Should I get rid of Assurance or Dark Pulse? lose Dark Pulse, right? thanks pokechat
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Mar 2, 2021 17:17
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Umbreon can't get Toxic in Sword/Shield.
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Mar 2, 2021 17:20
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Vandar posted:Umbreon can't get Toxic in Sword/Shield. well...poo poo
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Mar 2, 2021 17:21
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wuggles posted:well...poo poo Yeah. They took Toxic away from a ton of Pokemon, and while in most cases it's fine, taking it away from Umbreon was a huge mistake.
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Mar 2, 2021 17:26
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I never understood why almost every pokemon could learn toxic.
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Mar 2, 2021 17:32
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Electric Phantasm posted:I never understood why almost every pokemon could learn toxic. Rampant cheating in non-Galarian leagues, toxic for most pokemon is a surreptitious syringe full of dead poison taped to a limb like you were doctoring a baseball.
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Mar 2, 2021 17:38
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Blaze Dragon posted:She would've had more of a point in any other game, but sadly SM is the one that finally let your boxed mons actually do stuff too, and stuff that isn't literally slaving away at a job to get you money and items like SwSh did. If she knew the Poke Pelago existed she would also know her husband wasn't dead.
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Mar 2, 2021 17:45
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Thanks for the TemTem chat. I was thinking of getting it but figured I'd wait until it was in a Humble Monthly and now I'll probably not even play it then. Or maybe I will I guess it depends how starved for Pokemon I may be at that time.
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Mar 2, 2021 17:47
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karmicknight posted:Rampant cheating in non-Galarian leagues, toxic for most pokemon is a surreptitious syringe full of dead poison taped to a limb like you were doctoring a baseball. poke-FIFA has rules against dosing e: "except not," I say, buying an herb that changes my Pokemon's personality
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Mar 2, 2021 17:49
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There are a lot of international problems with the Galar regions allowed supplemental stacks. It's a big deal in communities that discuss doping.
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Mar 2, 2021 17:56
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Electric Phantasm posted:I never understood why almost every pokemon could learn toxic. they learned it from their trainers EY-YOOOOOOOOOO
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Mar 2, 2021 18:02
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I was curious, so I counted it out, there are over 50 unskippable trainer battles before the first gym leader in TemTem, with about 15 different TemTem shown between them.
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Mar 2, 2021 18:14
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The problem with difficulty in Pokemon was never that there weren't enough trainers. In fact it's the opposite. There are too many swarms of trainers with like one Watchog each. The solution should be fewer trainers but with larger teams. It both lets them use tactics like entry hazards that aren't feasible when they only have one or two mons on their team, and it really helps the pace of the game when you're not being stopped by a trainer with a single Clefairy every 2 steps and have to sit through the battle start animations over and over and over.. Remember how annoying some of the late-game routes in RBY were?
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Mar 2, 2021 18:44
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galagazombie posted:The problem with difficulty in Pokemon was never that there weren't enough trainers. In fact it's the opposite. There are too many swarms of trainers with like one Watchog each. The solution should be fewer trainers but with larger teams. It both lets them use tactics like entry hazards that aren't feasible when they only have one or two mons on their team, and it really helps the pace of the game when you're not being stopped by a trainer with a single Clefairy every 2 steps and have to sit through the battle start animations over and over and over.. Remember how annoying some of the late-game routes in RBY were? I just want a difficulty curve as an option.
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Mar 2, 2021 18:51
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Flopsy posted:I just want a difficulty curve as an option. Easy as the current setting, Normal is what galagazombie describes, and on Hard the AI trainers have Battle Tower strats That’s the dream
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Mar 2, 2021 18:58
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wuggles posted:Easy as the current setting, Normal is what galagazombie describes, and on Hard the AI trainers have Battle Tower strats And on Confirmation Bias Hard, the game just blatantly defies probability, moves with <100% accuracy miss when you use them far more often that they should, and when the AI uses them, hit almost every time. So how it currently works
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galagazombie posted:The problem with difficulty in Pokemon was never that there weren't enough trainers. In fact it's the opposite. There are too many swarms of trainers with like one Watchog each. The solution should be fewer trainers but with larger teams. It both lets them use tactics like entry hazards that aren't feasible when they only have one or two mons on their team, and it really helps the pace of the game when you're not being stopped by a trainer with a single Clefairy every 2 steps and have to sit through the battle start animations over and over and over.. Remember how annoying some of the late-game routes in RBY were? Are there any decent romhacks that do this?
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Mar 2, 2021 19:07
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Lorak posted:And on Confirmation Bias Hard, the game just blatantly defies probability, moves with <100% accuracy miss when you use them far more often that they should, and when the AI uses them, hit almost every time. I was in the battle tower and someone ditto'd my Umbreon I hurt myself in confusion 100% of the time, they did it 0% of the time
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Mar 2, 2021 19:15
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Confirmation bias aside my run in with a Dusclops that had Double Team, Toxic, Confuse Ray, and Rest in I think Platinum's Battle Tower was the most unpleasant experience I have ever had in a video game.
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Mar 2, 2021 19:33
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Nth Doctor posted:Mimikyu deserves better. Reposting
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Mar 2, 2021 19:49
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Vandar posted:Umbreon can't get Toxic in Sword/Shield. But...it sweats poison...
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Mar 2, 2021 19:50
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mandatory lesbian posted:But...it sweats poison... And crobat is a flying type that can't learn roost anymore, welcome to my special hell.
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Mar 2, 2021 21:24
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Wait is the problem those moves aren't TM/TRs anymore or did they alter movesets?
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Mar 2, 2021 21:41
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Electric Phantasm posted:Wait is the problem those moves aren't TM/TRs anymore or did they alter movesets? Toxic and Roost aren't TMs anymore, and I think they did alter some movesets, but I'm not certain. I know a few moves got removed form Gen 8 that many Pokemon relied on like Signal Beam, Hidden Power and Return though.
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Mar 2, 2021 21:43
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But Signal Beam is like the standard SpAtk Bug move. That's like removing Flamethrower, Thunderbolt, and Ice Beam! I'm all for reigning in the moveset inflation of the past few gens (Restrict access to Surf and Earthquake for instance), but that leaves Special Bug types with nothing.
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Mar 2, 2021 21:54
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Oh God I completely forgot about the hatchet job on moves in Gen 8.
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Mar 2, 2021 22:01
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From move pool to move puddle on a hot sidewalk in the middle of a Death Valley Summer
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galagazombie posted:But Signal Beam is like the standard SpAtk Bug move. That's like removing Flamethrower, Thunderbolt, and Ice Beam! I'm all for reigning in the moveset inflation of the past few gens (Restrict access to Surf and Earthquake for instance), but that leaves Special Bug types with nothing. They still have Bug Buzz, that's the bug attack on par with Flamethrower and Ice Beam. Signal Beam was mostly just used as coverage on a few mons, mostly electric types with anemic movepools.
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