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In defense of hammerheads, they look really goofy. Not wobbegong goofy, but still pretty goofy. Animorphs-Book 18:The Decision-Chapter 21 quote:<I wish Rachel and Tobias were seeing this,> Cassie said. Her thought-speak voice was a mix of wonder and bitterness. <This is nothing like Earth’s oceans.> People were complaining they didn't get a description of the Leeran homeworld. See, here one is...not the boring surface world, but the interesting parts. quote:We glided, dark and deadly, through a peaceful sea. The Yeerks had been clever to consider using sharks to control this ocean. Wherever I looked I saw no razor teeth, no crushing jaws. Marco was right: There were predators here. But they were us. Those Yeerks have just become convinced of the fundamental unfairness of life. Chapter 22 quote:We launched toward the Leeran-Controllers. Sharks are very fast in short bursts. Too fast for the shocked Yeerks inside the Leerans to react. That last line is just the saddest I've read today.
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I'm guessing when all is said and done, they lose access to the Leeran morphs? Seems like it would be just a little too drat useful for spying on the Yeerks. And separating friend from foe.
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Bobulus posted:I'm guessing when all is said and done, they lose access to the Leeran morphs? Seems like it would be just a little too drat useful for spying on the Yeerks. And separating friend from foe. For those who want KAA's official statement at the time: 2. If the Animorphs morphed Leerans once, they should do it again, shouldn't they? No, because Leerans are sentient beings, and the Animorphs don't believe they have the right to appropriate the DNA of sentient beings without permission. On Leera they had permission. But now they have no way of asking the Leerans if they mind Also, in the same Q&A, she was asked what we were asking....why Ax was so concerned that Visser Three had an Andalite Animal when Alloran probably acquired it before Visser Three to him over, and her answer was: "You know, I could save myself a lot of grief by just not answering questions like this. (Sigh). Okay, add this to the BIG list of KASU's: Katherine Applegate Screws Up." Also, if you're curious as to how old the Animorphs are at the time of the books: "There's a lot of confusion on this point. The Animorphs are 47. They were just held back a lot" Epicurius fucked around with this message at 05:15 on Mar 2, 2021 |
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Believe it or not, I had an Animorphs dream last night. I dreamed of two books. One involved a plot by the Yeerks to monitor all of Earth's communication systems. In the other, Marco had to read a Shakespeare play for school, but the play turned out to be a coded message by aliens who the Animorphs had to help in exchange for their help against the Yeerks.
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# ? Mar 2, 2021 21:43 |
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I love this thread, not only because I really liked Animorphs growing up, but also because one of the first things I did after becoming fluent in English, was looking up fan pages of Animorphs, since they stopped translating them into German at one point. None of the Chronicle books ever got a translation, so finding out that Tobias was Elfangor's son blew my loving mind. Same with the Hork-Bajir backstory. I am also remembering that I really liked that they eventually did change the Status Quo. The series does have a certain Saturday morning cartoon flair to it, with the heroes battling the villain every week, but nothing ever fundamentally changing. so finding out that didn't last was really cool.
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# ? Mar 2, 2021 22:20 |
The Hork-Bajir chronicles is an amazing book.
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# ? Mar 2, 2021 23:04 |
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I find myself forgetting that this haunting image of Andalites being driven off by superior Yeerk forces began with a mosquito blood heist gone awry.
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# ? Mar 2, 2021 23:39 |
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Epicurius posted:Believe it or not, I had an Animorphs dream last night. I dreamed of two books. One involved a plot by the Yeerks to monitor all of Earth's communication systems. In the other, Marco had to read a Shakespeare play for school, but the play turned out to be a coded message by aliens who the Animorphs had to help in exchange for their help against the Yeerks. Sounds plausible enough to be the plot of an actual book.
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Epicurius posted:Believe it or not, I had an Animorphs dream last night. I dreamed of two books. One involved a plot by the Yeerks to monitor all of Earth's communication systems. In the other, Marco had to read a Shakespeare play for school, but the play turned out to be a coded message by aliens who the Animorphs had to help in exchange for their help against the Yeerks. One of these isn’t actually far off from the plot of a future book
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quote:Those Yeerks have just become convinced of the fundamental unfairness of life. I still remember this scene. It's not quite obvious, but for once it's the Animorphs turning into the giant alien monsters that shrug off bullets and rip you apart with their teeth and claws.
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# ? Mar 3, 2021 01:57 |
I mean.... as Ax points out, a shark is pretty close to the perfect killing machine.
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Animorphs-Book 18:The Decision-Chapter 23quote:We passed through a loose ring of Leeran-Controllers set up around the far edges of the City of Worms. None challenged us. We were riding Yeerk-issued water jets, and we stayed far enough off that no one could read our thoughts. drat. Chapter 24 quote:Galuit explained what he needed and why. Again, that's official Andalite doctrine on morphing. quote:Suddenly he looked confused. His eyes went left, then right. <I was sure it was four. Where is the other human?> Goodbye to Marco. quote:Galuit yelled a thought-speak summons that was heard clear through the submarine. <Science officer, report to me, right now!> So, will all the Animorphs die? (Probably not because it's book 18 and there are 54 books in the series). Will they fail their mission (maybe).
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Anyone got any recommendations for other books in the Space Opera kind of genre? I've gone orf sci fi over the last couple of decades since it seems to have veered into Grim For The Sake Of Grim territory, but I'm sure there must be some good stuff out there still.
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Great couple of chapters. This, along with what they did in 15 without any recognition, really feels like a pivotal moment of... pivoting, I guess... from being a bunch of guerillas in a desperate situation on a backwater planet to actually being an integral part of the war.quote:<I’m a member of the highest circles, so I know all about your escapades on Earth.> Firstly, the word "escapades" in this scenario is delightfully cavalier, and secondly, I remember reading some internet commentary ages ago about the 7th or 8th season of 24 and a reviewer complaining "it feels like every single person Jack meets in the FBI tells him 'I've read your file'," and I remember thinking, yeah, but to be fair, Jack Bauer's file would be loving great reading and would be passed around the office like an airport thriller - as is true of Ax.
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Tree Bucket posted:Anyone got any recommendations for other books in the Space Opera kind of genre? I've gone orf sci fi over the last couple of decades since it seems to have veered into Grim For The Sake Of Grim territory, but I'm sure there must be some good stuff out there still. In terms of stuff similar to this (which pretty clearly gets a lot of inspiration from Stark Trek style galactic sci fi) the closest thing I can think of is Philip Reeve's Railhead series. Which also slots in alongside Animorphs in being for YA readers, but also actually tackling pretty serious themes as well as being a rollicking adventure.
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freebooter posted:Firstly, the word "escapades" in this scenario is delightfully cavalier, and secondly, I remember reading some internet commentary ages ago about the 7th or 8th season of 24 and a reviewer complaining "it feels like every single person Jack meets in the FBI tells him 'I've read your file'," and I remember thinking, yeah, but to be fair, Jack Bauer's file would be loving great reading and would be passed around the office like an airport thriller - as is true of Ax. Mildly related, but you should check out, if you haven't already seen it, the mini video essay that Jon Bois did on what a truly horrific hell world the universe of 24 is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_P52G4Kyq5M It's pretty good.
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I'm wondering if the Andalite higher-ups can recognize that the Animorphs are basically Ax's age, rather than full-grown adults. I assume by exploits, it's more along the lines of "they blew up the Kandrona" rather than "one of them burped an alligator that almost ate Jonathan Taylor Thomas."
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quote:Galuit seemed surprised. Maybe even impressed. In private thought-speak he said to me, <I have known worse princes than this one.> Galuit owns. I remember reading this book as a kid and dreading another horrible disappointment for Ax but he gets told he's doing a good job and has made good choices, yay!
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That sequence where Galuit goes to explain to Jake what the mission is and Jake just says he'll do it, and Galuit admits he's known worse Princes is the part of this book that I remembered clearly to this day despite not having read the book in well over a decade. It's such a good moment.
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# ? Mar 3, 2021 09:36 |
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I get why he says it privately to Ax, but t would have been so nice for Jake to have even one iota of external validation These poor kids
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QuickbreathFinisher posted:I get why he says it privately to Ax, but t would have been so nice for Jake to have even one iota of external validation Would it even matter? Nobody has higher standards for Jake than he has for himself. He'd probably just rationalize it away as, "this guy I just met thinks I'm a slightly better leader than the Andalite who turned traitor an hour ago. So what?"
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Rochallor posted:I'm wondering if the Andalite higher-ups can recognize that the Animorphs are basically Ax's age, rather than full-grown adults. I assume by exploits, it's more along the lines of "they blew up the Kandrona" rather than "one of them burped an alligator that almost ate Jonathan Taylor Thomas." andalite high command never misses an episode of the barry & cindy sue show. must-see TV, you know
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I know Visser 3 should by all rights be busy elsewhere, but I really want him to have the Animorphs cornered only to have them poof away inexplicably.
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Tree Bucket posted:Anyone got any recommendations for other books in the Space Opera kind of genre? I've gone orf sci fi over the last couple of decades since it seems to have veered into Grim For The Sake Of Grim territory, but I'm sure there must be some good stuff out there still. Succession by Scott Westerfeld, originally published as two books (The Risen Empire and The Killing of Worlds). Would make an excellent prestige TV show adaptation since it has multiple adjacent plotlines that occasionally intersect: -A war hero space captain dealing with his PTSD as he's used as a political pawn -A transhumanist commando trying to uplift a planet-sized AI -A cult of personality guarding the secret of an undead immortal emperor -A galactic senator trying to stave off civil unrest and war Some of my absolute favorite comfort reading.
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Animorphs-Book 18:The Decision-Chapter 25quote:We were briefed by one of Galuit’s officers. I'd be having doubts by now. quote:The submarine took us to the mouth of the river. It was as close as it could take us without becoming far too visible for safety. This very much seems like a suicide mission. Chapter 26 quote:<There! Is that the underwater cave entrance?> Cassie cried. So, Ax is alone....last one there, which is good because he's the narrator.
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Animorphs-Book 18:The Decision-Chapter 27quote:I landed on a clump of screamingly orange mold or lichens or … something. And began to demorph. He was willing to die to complete the mission. It didn't happen, but he was willing. Chapter 28 quote:I felt the warm, human skin beneath my six legs. First, this is the first time that I know of that a mosquito bite cured somebody of their coma. Second, again, you can see the weakness of Visser Three's leadership style here. His subordinates don't know what to do, they don't have orders, so they panic. Chapter 29 quote:“So wait a minute here,” Rachel said. “We get zapped back here through Zero-space, one by one, at different times. But when we get back here, we all arrive at the same moment? And no time has passed?” I don't know. I found that last line very profound. Well, not the last line. Not the cinnamon buns one, although I'm a fan. But the idea about who your people are. So, what did you think of the book? Of the Leerans? Of the fact we're seeing a bigger universe than just the Yeerks on earth? Coming up next is actually a Megamorphs book...you know, a longer book where all the characters have chapters? "In The Time of the Dinosaurs". It's about...well, I don't know, it's not a clear title.
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# ? Mar 5, 2021 03:59 |
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This was pretty good, and a definite change of pace! It's honestly a shame these books are so short (And that this one had to spend so much time setting up the framing device), since it would have been interesting to see more interactions between the Animorphs, the Leerans, and the Andalites. We also never did figure out why the one captain defected, did we? Also unlike a lot of these recent books, I remember almost everything about the next one, and I am hella excited for it because it is 300% bananas.
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# ? Mar 5, 2021 04:17 |
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I liked this book a lot. It's the first time I think the Animorphs really swing a major conflict of the war, and as someone who loves the sea, I wish we'd seen more of Leera. As it is, I don't remember Leera or the Leerans ever appearing again before I stopped following the series.
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# ? Mar 5, 2021 04:43 |
I like this book. Ax really begins to step out of his brother's shadow and become a warrior.
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Cythereal posted:As it is, I don't remember Leera or the Leerans ever appearing again before I stopped following the series. They don't, except as a cameo in one book near the end. However, the stuff that happened on Leera has aftershocks that resonate throughout the rest of the series.
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You know, if we make it ask the way through the series, I'll have to celebrate by sharing my grandmother's cinnamon bun recipe. Then everyone can freak out as much as Ax. I liked this book! A cool change of pace, and seemingly something weird and sci-fi happened without being the Ellimest's doing!
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# ? Mar 5, 2021 04:55 |
At least, not explicitly. Him flicking their consciousness into their extruded mass seems very much like one of his 'I will not interfere' tricks
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# ? Mar 5, 2021 05:10 |
it was clearly by happenstance that an andalite ship on the way to a very important moment in the war, with a traitor captain who needed to be dealt with before a second andalite controller emerged, ran over their extruded mass (despite earth's z-space neighborhood being semi-impassible at the moment, which is what's cutting off andalite reinforcement of earth) while they were on a mission that turned out to be easily resolved and non-critical
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# ? Mar 5, 2021 05:18 |
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Yeah, this is all way too coincidental to not be the Ellimist, he's just being a bit more subtle than showing up in person.
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# ? Mar 5, 2021 05:42 |
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This remains my favourite book in the main series. (The unfairly advantaged David trilogy is probably better though.) Reading it again as an adult though, yeah, it is unfortunately very short and limited in what it's able to do. Like, it's by far the craziest thing that's ever happened to them but ultimately it's still like "well, Saturday morning at the food court again! [Exterior shot of shopping mall as Animorphs laugh, roll credits.]" It would have benefited from being a Megamorphs book, except that it's so clearly (and excellently!) weighted around Ax and his conflicting loyalties. Also I thought the high-stakes insane conclusion was awesome when I was nine or ten years old and it's still awesome. Mission to blow up a continent and save the planet, Ax all by himself, bomb one second from going off, Dracon beam a metre from his face, and he miraculously finishes the cycle and is the last one to snap back to Earth? Come on, that's sick. Acebuckeye13 posted:We also never did figure out why the one captain defected, did we? I would assume just fear - fear that the Andalites are losing, the Yeerks are going to win, and maybe he can carve himself out some kind of safety or comfort in the face of what he sees as the inevitable. (His dialogue was a bit cartoonishly villainous, but eh, it's a kids' book.) Cythereal posted:As it is, I don't remember Leera or the Leerans ever appearing again before I stopped following the series. Apart from Ax mentioning that they're not allowed on the Andalite world, there's no suggestion that they're spacefaring. Maybe they're just like a recently contacted species that's only at the same technological level as Earth, so don't have much to offer to the war effort beyond their usefulness as mind readers. (On the other hand I don't see how Leera could really have been that pivotal though, which everybody in this book says it is.)
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# ? Mar 5, 2021 07:47 |
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Mind readers would basically negate the biggest advantage of either side of the war. The next book is so wild, I love it, though it's unfair that they don't get to keep their morphs
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The Animorphs showing up turned a probable defeat into a victory, and when they got back, the guy randomly woke up, despite Yeerk science not being able to revive him before this. There's too many coincidences even for a kids' series. Plus it fits the Ellimist's normal method of making a small change and then leaving the kids to figure out the rest.quote:“Yeah,” Marco said. “That’s what’s strange: the word “yanked.” Us turning into mosquitoes to suck some guy’s blood so we could morph into him and instead ending up in the middle of some war to control psychic yellow frogs, and oh, by the way, blowing up a small continent full of Yeerks, saving an entire species, then getting back here to find out Coma-man woke up from a mosquito bite delivered by a morphed alien-slash-deer-slash-scorpion-slash-four-eyed centaur, that’s all totally normal. That’s just an average day. Dear Diary: another boring average day, till someone said ‘yanked.’” And dinosaur book next! There's heavy themes because it would barely be an Animorphs book without them, but also, dinosaurs! Not feathered dinosaurs, but it was the 90s.
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# ? Mar 5, 2021 08:48 |
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GodFish posted:Mind readers would basically negate the biggest advantage of either side of the war. On Earth, yeah, but in the rest of the galaxy it seems to be a pretty regular ol' shootin' war. Pew pew!
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# ? Mar 5, 2021 09:24 |
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The cool thing about Ax books is that he has so much genuine enjoyment out of things, either cinnamon buns and cigarette butts or weird things humans do that interest/impress him. Marco is the funny guy of the group but when you are reading his POV books he's almost always pretending to be happy or doing something stupid and fun because he desperately needs something normal in his life.
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freebooter posted:On Earth, yeah, but in the rest of the galaxy it seems to be a pretty regular ol' shootin' war. Pew pew! I mean this book just demonstrated that there is infiltration and treachery occurring.
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