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The Eyes Have It
Feb 10, 2008

Third Eye Sees All
...snookums
Yeah my step one was a 1 hour consultation with a patent attorney. Answered a lot of questions.

Also see if there are any tech/ startup incubators you can book a meeting with to chat. They'll answer other basic questions you probably didn't know you had.

You can always just start making them and selling them to see if there actually is any value (my favorite approach.) You might not be able to patent anything but you can trademark etc your particular approach and style as another method of raising the bar to competition.

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The Eyes Have It
Feb 10, 2008

Third Eye Sees All
...snookums
If your doodad is a simple plastic thing with a few screws, your version might be unique but it also might not be realistically possible to stop anyone from copying it and competing with a product that solves the same problem if they really wanted to. A consultation with a patent attorney will help you get an idea of the "patentability" of the thing.

You can go nuts worrying about it all. It can feel overwhelming.

Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007

i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

30 seconds after you file the patent there will be knockoffs on aliexpress.

minidracula
Dec 22, 2007

boo woo boo
Why do I feel compelled to write assembly lately? Why am I scouring the Internet and downloading all these old assemblers? What is happening to me?... :pcgaming:

ol qwerty bastard
Dec 13, 2005

If you want something done, do it yourself!

minidracula posted:

Why do I feel compelled to write assembly lately? Why am I scouring the Internet and downloading all these old assemblers? What is happening to me?... :pcgaming:

I'm sorry to tell you this is a degenerative neural disease, the next stage is designing and building a cpu from 7400 series ICs

shoeberto
Jun 13, 2020

which way to the MACHINES?
Benjamin Button but you go backwards on computers. Terminal stage is trying to build your own difference engine. I'm sorry for your loss.

You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting

Got my Tower of Power 90% working.

Got the CD player and tape player last weekend. The tape player works fine, the CD player however needed some work.

First off the belt needs to be replaced for closing the tray, which I will order soon. The other issue was each time the CD player would try to seek, there was a nasty gear noise.

I pulled the lid off it and had a look. The issue was the guide rails that the laser head moves on were gummed up, and the toothed rail that the allows the head move from the motor goes into a kinda fail safe that allows the motor to spin without chewing the hell out of the plastic gears or teeth.

A good clean down and a little bit of lithium grease and all is well.

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



[ASK] me about OS/2 Warp
hell yeah we've talked about yamahas before. perfect

lord funk
Feb 16, 2004

i had that tape deck

welp that's my story i'll see myself out

You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting

Jonny 290 posted:

hell yeah we've talked about yamahas before. perfect

Thanks for all the help and information you gave me Jonny

minidracula
Dec 22, 2007

boo woo boo

ol qwerty bastard posted:

I'm sorry to tell you this is a degenerative neural disease, the next stage is designing and building a cpu from 7400 series ICs

shoeberto posted:

Benjamin Button but you go backwards on computers. Terminal stage is trying to build your own difference engine. I'm sorry for your loss.
I can report that I've staved off the innevitable for now by tinkering with one of the most distinctive programmable graphics/page layout engines I've ever encountered. Oh, and Godot.

I have been stalking Am2900 series parts on eBay for the last year-plus though, so we all know how this story ends.

shoeberto
Jun 13, 2020

which way to the MACHINES?
Godot is cool and good. I wish I had more energy to tinker with it.

TheGoonspiracist
Jul 24, 2002

The terrible secret of space... :stonk: the Mods, they knew!
I bought a Pioneer Elite plasma TV the other day that I'm vertically mounting to run shumps in retroarch and Switch Tate mode games on.


Ikaruga translite is going to sit on top for shits and giggles.

Luigi Thirty
Apr 30, 2006

Emergency confection port.

being able to import things from yahoo auctions is hell on my wallet

I bought a PC-9821Ap2, one of the later PC-98s. it’s soooorta like a western PC but not IBM compatible.

It’s got a 486, 52MB of RAM, onboard 1024x768 video and FM audio. I grabbed an MPU-401 card and an NIC for it

it has ports of MS-DOS and Windows. PC DOS programs that hit the hardware directly are a no-go but Windows abstracts enough that you can run just about anything.

PC gaming wasn’t very big in Japan and it was an office computer more than anything so its native game library is mostly anime porn, visual novels, and touhous with the odd strategy game mixed in

https://twitter.com/LuigiThirty/status/1366854242858860549

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






old weird computer is fun to play with imo

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






i;m thinking of starting a new project for myself. A clone of the Adlib Gold surround module. Since I have an adlib god I might as well. Some german person already did one last year but they're selling it for way too much money and I wanna see if I can design a PCB and whatnot. Nowadays PCB manufacturing is so cheap and easy that I can afford to gently caress up a couple times. Just need to source some vintage Yamaha chips.

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

spankmeister posted:

old weird computer is fun to play with imo


i agree, but i definitely don't have the space for them.

if toilet seat ibooks could use the modern internet i would like one of those in the kitchen to look up recipes and watch tv. key lime please

Luigi Thirty
Apr 30, 2006

Emergency confection port.

spankmeister posted:

old weird computer is fun to play with imo

it’s old and just weird enough to be interesting but not weird enough to be useless, since it can do everything a contemporary Win95 computer can

the largest Japanese shareware site still operates (vector.co.jp) so there’s plenty of software to check out too

Luigi Thirty
Apr 30, 2006

Emergency confection port.

spankmeister posted:

i;m thinking of starting a new project for myself. A clone of the Adlib Gold surround module. Since I have an adlib god I might as well. Some german person already did one last year but they're selling it for way too much money and I wanna see if I can design a PCB and whatnot. Nowadays PCB manufacturing is so cheap and easy that I can afford to gently caress up a couple times. Just need to source some vintage Yamaha chips.

oh yeah, I love this cottage industry of reverse engineered ISA cards!

r u ready to WALK
Sep 29, 2001

if only you could order custom reproduction chips the way you can PCBs to keep old tech running, but i guess that's what the fpgas are for

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



[ASK] me about OS/2 Warp
yeah all the cool new snes throwback consoles use fpgas

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






It's cool that fpga's have become cheap enough that we can do cycle-accurate emulation in them without paying thousands

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
just curious like what do you guys do with old computer once you’ve booted into the os and gone thru the menus ..

??


not ragging on yas just interested in some insight

Stack Machine
Mar 6, 2016

I can see through time!
Fun Shoe

echinopsis posted:

just curious like what do you guys do with old computer once you’ve booted into the os and gone thru the menus ..

??


not ragging on yas just interested in some insight

I make bad games and demos.

Getting real-time music synthesis and sprite rendering to work on my mac plus (holy poo poo that thing is slow) was a lot of fun. But I'm a huge dork, so...

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






echinopsis posted:

just curious like what do you guys do with old computer once you’ve booted into the os and gone thru the menus ..

??


not ragging on yas just interested in some insight

A lot of it is nostalgia, often times it's about having experiences with technology that we weren't able to afford when we were kids. That's why 90's era hardware is getting real expensive now, because the millennials have grown up and have gotten jobs and are buying it all up.

toiletbrush
May 17, 2010

Stack Machine posted:

I make bad games and demos.

Getting real-time music synthesis and sprite rendering to work on my mac plus (holy poo poo that thing is slow) was a lot of fun. But I'm a huge dork, so...
I've been watching a ton of c64/amiga demoscene stuff lately and been thinking about getting a c64 emulator and learning enough 6502 to make recreate a few effects.

I love trying to figure out how amiga demo effects work but there's so much more to learn vs c64
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYtleuGV7ok

echinopsis
Apr 13, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

spankmeister posted:

A lot of it is nostalgia, often times it's about having experiences with technology that we weren't able to afford when we were kids. That's why 90's era hardware is getting real expensive now, because the millennials have grown up and have gotten jobs and are buying it all up.

oh yeah this makes sense. was only kind of imagining booting up into amiga workbench just to be like “oh yeah that’s right” but this makes sense

Sagacity
May 2, 2003
Hopefully my epitaph will be funnier than my custom title.

echinopsis posted:

just curious like what do you guys do with old computer once you’ve booted into the os and gone thru the menus ..
I'm currently building a 6502 assembler in rust (and formatter and IDE plugins...sigh). growing up we had a c64 and wanting to write my own games got me into programming. actually _doing_ 6502 coding with all the janky cross-platform toolchains frustrated me so much i embarked on this project. still mostly useless, of course.

Luigi Thirty
Apr 30, 2006

Emergency confection port.

echinopsis posted:

oh yeah this makes sense. was only kind of imagining booting up into amiga workbench just to be like “oh yeah that’s right” but this makes sense

it’s a fully functional Win95 machine so there’s plenty to do

plus yeah I’ve always wanted one and they’re not that expensive compared to other retro systems - the computer itself was $200ish, which is way less than my Amiga cost

r u ready to WALK
Sep 29, 2001

every time i boot one of my old macs i end up playing prince of persia 2 until i get to this scene

https://i.imgur.com/3Ojtx1L.mp4

go play outside Skyler
Nov 7, 2005


i am so loving sick of wordpress. i have an idea i want to bounce off you guys.

i like wp's architecture (plug-ins using hooks and filters, that's pretty genius) and relatively down-to-earth templating system. but i hate that it becomes a house of cards as soon as you try to add features that allow customers (i.e people with almost 0 knowledge of computers) to change their website without breaking it.

i've written fully custom wordpress templates for "designer" type customers that will send you an e-mail about a margin being 3px too small. they work okay until you start getting into the nitty gritty, where you need to modify some obscure template file or add a filter / hook to change some really dumb default behavior (did you know that if a customer qualifies for free shipping in woocommerce, they can always choose to still pay for it!!). letting my customers update this site is either:
- use gutenberg and spend weeks architecting some bullshit around its limitations and writing way too many lines of js to make it remotely useful
- use the standard wysiwyg editor, basically typing a lot of loving html in it, and hoping the customer doesn't break the layout

i've also tried the way of wpbakery, which is impressive in all its features, but is janky as gently caress. also 200% reliant on database so good luck versioning this poo poo.

the current status of the web seems to be either:
- communication agencies with little to no dev skills that add a plug-in for every little lovely thing their customer wants, building an un-versionable and unmaintainable house of cards with absolutely poo poo performance, but that allows customers to change something on their site when they want
- full-on agencies hiring devs that create a custom site and bill the customer every time they want a semicolon added somewhere or an image changed.

i'm thinking of creating a super simple cms that's developer-friendly.

basically, with a little bit of react magic and a simple, RESTful kind of PHP backend, let webdevs control 100% of the generated html/css. as a webdev, you'd write something like this in the templates file

code:
<div class="some-poo poo" data-editable="wysiwyg" data-repeatable data-allow-images data-background-image-changeable>
</dive>
when your customer connects with their credentials, react would go through these data-editable components and fire up a simple editor. in my head:
  • data-editable would make this block editable, either with pure text or wysiwyg (basically makes contenteditable)
  • data-repeatable makes this a block that the user can easily clone and re-order, staying in the same dom parent
  • data-allow-images allows to insert images into this block
  • data-background-image-changeable allows the user to set a background-image on this element. you still own the rest of the css like backgorund-position, background-size, etc.

probably a lot more options i could come up with, i'm just typing this slightly drunk right now.

this system would be mostly file-based (except user credentials in a db i guess). meaning that editing a page actually modifies a file. this makes the entire site git-able and allows for easy dev /staging / production environments that is just so loving hard to do in wordpress (though it's still ways ahead of drupal .. loving tangled mess of sql)

any comments on this idea? maybe something like that already exists?

go play outside Skyler fucked around with this message at 00:12 on Mar 5, 2021

shoeberto
Jun 13, 2020

which way to the MACHINES?
The idea of "WordPress, but not a dumpster fire" does seem like it's something that would have been taken on by now, so it's worth trawling github to see what's out there.

Fwiw, static site generators are also popular-ish, stuff like Jekyll:
https://github.com/jekyll/jekyll
Which might not be wysiwyg enough for your needs, but it might be a good starting point for your research.

Pile Of Garbage
May 28, 2007



what is a website? a miserable little pile of html/css/js in an s3 bucket.

EIDE Van Hagar
Dec 8, 2000

Beep Boop

Jonny 290 posted:

yeah all the cool new snes throwback consoles use fpgas

yeah i got one of those (mister) and it was a bit of a pain to set up cuz it wouldn’t recognize my sd card, but it’s good once running.

minidracula
Dec 22, 2007

boo woo boo

spankmeister posted:

i;m thinking of starting a new project for myself. A clone of the Adlib Gold surround module. Since I have an adlib god I might as well. Some german person already did one last year but they're selling it for way too much money and I wanna see if I can design a PCB and whatnot. Nowadays PCB manufacturing is so cheap and easy that I can afford to gently caress up a couple times. Just need to source some vintage Yamaha chips.
If the other thing you're talking about was that thing on Vogons (mention of the German guy is what triggered this memory), that seemed like a poo poo-show from more or less day one, at least from the very little driveby attention I gave it in passing some ~2.5-3 years back...

There was another similar thing too, but I forget the details; I wanna say it was a GUS remake but I doubt I have that right; probably some other card. Anyway, similar story: German (I think) guy anounces the project, gets a bunch of interest, lays out plans, goes dark forever, pops back up, makes some claims about progress and maybe starts getting feedback, ignores/dismisses/rants at most feedback, disappears again, others volunteer to make pieces of things for him to help get the thing out, OG guy more or less walks out in a huff. I'm sure I have most of that wrong -- like I said, I didn't pay close attention -- but it seemed sad and yet all too predictable.

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






minidracula posted:

If the other thing you're talking about was that thing on Vogons (mention of the German guy is what triggered this memory), that seemed like a poo poo-show from more or less day one, at least from the very little driveby attention I gave it in passing some ~2.5-3 years back...

There was another similar thing too, but I forget the details; I wanna say it was a GUS remake :words:

Yes it was that thread on vogons. The other thing is briefly mentioned in that thread as well.

My plan is to just trace out the circuit from the publicly available pictures of both the original and the clone.

I do intend to sell my AdLib gold and I think a working surround module will increase its value, even of it's a DIY reproduction. But contrary to the other person I fully intend to share the circuit design and gerbers on github or smth so that anyone can order a pcb and build one.

Well, if they can source a chip that is. I haven't been able to find any yet

Or maybe do one in an fpga? :thunk:

Stack Machine
Mar 6, 2016

I can see through time!
Fun Shoe
I'm not sure it's right for your project but I do have a little command line utility that automates tracing black-and-white PNGs into gerber files for PCBs. I've posted about it in DIY before but shamefully I've yet to make anything very YOSPOS with it.

https://github.com/stackmachineSA/emboarden/releases/

Luigi Thirty
Apr 30, 2006

Emergency confection port.

I have another batch of pc98 stuff coming from Japan, an S3 video card, MO and CDROM drives, SCSI adapter. also have one of those kryofluxes coming to write :filez: and archive a couple disks I have that aren’t on archive.org

TheGoonspiracist
Jul 24, 2002

The terrible secret of space... :stonk: the Mods, they knew!


No regrets in mounting the 50 inch plasma sideways. Retroarch and vertical Switch games look beautiful on it.

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Corla Plankun
May 8, 2007

improve the lives of everyone
does plasma not have viewing angle issues? i tried that with an lcd before and it looked like i had a horizontal gradient overlayed on top of everything

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